Thin's story - (Diffuse Thinner: Looking for input. Pics)

[Felk]

My "hunch", and that's all it is, is that diffuse thinning is sometimes baldness accelerated by other causes. Thus, since it's not just DHT that is the problem, conventional treatments which simply block out DHT won't be successful.

 

[kalbo]

Aplunk1 is a diffuse thinner with results.

Balthazar was a diffuse thinner, one of the latest big success pics using mainly minoxidil (so successful that i questioned his pictures at the time, but he posted more pics, and ppl told me i was being too suspicious) He regrew at least 3/4 of his hair.

Also that english fellow, the "need help posting pics, well worth seeing" one. He was thinning all over his head and he regrew heaps of hair as well.

Rockinreel's hair is thinning on top, though perhaps its crown thinning and a bit of recession. Anyway he has been very successful, he says a lot of his hair are thicker than when he was 18, and he's 39 now.

TheMoose is a diffuse thinner i believe, and i tihnk he's maintaining on propecia, but i could be mixed up.

Well by diffuse thinners, aren't we talking about guys who maintain their hairline but thin out all over? From what I recall, APlunk, Balthazar and the British guy all had receding hairlines or hairloss in the temples, so they don't fit the description of diffuse thinners. I haven't seen the other's results so I can't comment on them.

Don't know if it's indeed true that diffuse thinners have a harder time with treatments, but I haven't seen too many dt with success stories. Let's just hope that I'm completely wrong though....

 

[Felk]

Well ok. Aplunk described his hairloss as norwood 1-2, thinning in a norwood 5 pattern. All the pics he had looked like a good hairline, with thinning on top (apparently... )

But balthazar definately looked like he had thinned all over. His "before" pics sported the entire top of his head thinned almost completely.

Im with you on the english guy - he had definately lost the temples a while ago.

However i never really knew a diffuse thinner had to have his hairline. I thought you could recede a bit, and thin out a lot on top, and still be classified as one.

 

[Guest]

Another diffuse thinner with great results only on propecia is HawaiiMale, am I right? So there definitely is diffuse thinners that have had great results with the big 3 or even less.

 

[tchehov]

Diffuse thinning is a bastard - means your entire scalp is visible in normal light - you end up with a head looking like a newly hatched chick. Worse, the shine going on through it looks like sweat. I haven't tried any concealers so I don't know if they'd be more of an advantage for diffusers, or rediffusers.

I had the doctor pull that touchy-feely crap on me (that's only a test for an enlarged thyroid) but I just told him to cut it and do the blood tests. Mine came back normal, but he wouldn't give the figures so I couldn't do my own research. Made a complaint @ stopthethyroidmadness.com. A lot of doctors don't take balding seriously - they make no assessment of its psychological damage. They just say they've got REAL people with REAL illnesses waiting.

 

[2guard]

You look asian, is that right? I'm asian and I'm have diffuse loss as well. You loss looks a little more evenly distrubuted though. I do have a few spots that are worse than others. I shave my hair shorter than yours and I suggest you give it a try.

Also, are you putting something in your hair to make it stick out or does it do that naturally? If possible I say you should try to flatten your hair out a bit, like comb it forward if you can. I'd even suggest putting some product in to flatten it, it covers things up much better.

Btw, I think I've at least slowed down the loss from meds, finasteride and minoxidil. I think asians tend to get diffuse loss for some reason.

 

[Phillip]

It doesnt even look like you are thinning. that is more to do with the hairstyle. You hair is very straight (the kind that naturally tends to spikes up). It looks like you have gel in your hair but i cant tell. If you do that will make your scalp very obvious like you are thinning. If you dont have wettish hair/gell in it then you probably are thinning.

I bet i can also guess you are asian aren't you? You could possibly be hispanic but im guessing asian. That very stright pointy type of hair is typical on asians. Just something i have noticed.

 

[Phillip]

It doesnt even look like you are thinning. that is more to do with the hairstyle. You hair is very straight (the kind that naturally tends to spikes up). It looks like you have gel in your hair but i cant tell. If you do that will make your scalp very obvious like you are thinning. If you dont have wettish hair/gell in it then you probably are thinning.

I bet i can also guess you are asian aren't you? You could possibly be hispanic but im guessing asian. That very stright pointy type of hair is typical on asians. Just something i have noticed.

After reexamining the third pic i do see a "thinnish" spot toward the middle. I guess this is the area you are concerned about? Some people just dont have thick hair to begin with. Did your scalp just recently become like this? Some people never have good hair in certain areas. The area above my ears has never been that thick for some reason the some people never have a good frontal line to begin win.

 

[jimmystanley]

i'm a difusser and can get away by shaving my hair short and a little shorter on the sides. (like .5 on top and 0 on sides) works well.

 

[Thin]

Yes i'm asian. My hair is straight. There isn't any gel in my hair when i took those pictures. Just 2 and a half years ago you couldn't even see my scalp. I wish I still had my old pictures to compare, but my whole computer was erased when I had a power outage that when in and out four to five times, which is bad for any hard drive. Should of had my a surge protector for my computer but i didn't.

 

[Thin]

It doesnt even look like you are thinning. that is more to do with the hairstyle. You hair is very straight (the kind that naturally tends to spikes up). It looks like you have gel in your hair but i cant tell. If you do that will make your scalp very obvious like you are thinning. If you dont have wettish hair/gell in it then you probably are thinning.

I bet i can also guess you are asian aren't you? You could possibly be hispanic but im guessing asian. That very stright pointy type of hair is typical on asians. Just something i have noticed.

After reexamining the third pic i do see a "thinnish" spot toward the middle. I guess this is the area you are concerned about? Some people just dont have thick hair to begin with. Did your scalp just recently become like this? Some people never have good hair in certain areas. The area above my ears has never been that thick for some reason the some people never have a good frontal line to begin win.

That middle spot is one of the worst spots. The left side of my crown is the worst. You wouldn't been able to see my scalp 2 1/2 years ago. My scalp definately more noticable as the years progress. At first it looked like male pattern baldness, but i started to realize it was my whole head. I can see alot of the peachfuzz that I have left on the upper part of my forehead and above my temples where I use to have full thick hair. The thinning is just slowly pushing towards the back.

 

[Thin]

Felk,

I checked the guys posts out the other day. they look like their suffering from male pattern baldness not diffuse thinning..

 

[2guard]

are you sure it's not diffuse male pattern baldness? i mean, are you losing hair outside the horseshoe pattern? even at the lower backside??

 

[Thin]

are you sure it's not diffuse male pattern baldness? i mean, are you losing hair outside the horseshoe pattern? even at the lower backside??

yep thats exactly what im trying to say, "i'm losing and thinning hair on the outside the horseshoe pattern." my sides and the back lower side of my head.

 

[Follically Challenged]

I saw a bald guy once and his hair only went up like a 2-3 inches from his ears and neck. Are you sure you are thinning right down to the hairline on the neck, and your ears? You might just have a really low horseshoe pattern like the guy i saw.

 

[Thin]

I saw a bald guy once and his hair only went up like a 2-3 inches from his ears and neck. Are you sure you are thinning right down to the hairline on the neck, and your ears? You might just have a really low horseshoe pattern like the guy i saw.

Here is a picture. let me know if this helps. it looks like this all around.

like i was saying my sides was never this visible.

 

[tchehov]

That's awful, man. I got it similar so you're not alone.

A guy posting here called Moose thinks diffuse thinning is distinct from male pattern baldness - he asked a few questions but didn't get any satisfactory answers. Someone replied that diffuse was male pattern baldness + something else (didn't say what), so fill in the blank yourself (I say Telogen Effluvium, but few would agree - this forum is obsessed with a sort of hairy science fiction ). :roll:

I think your sides and back have thinned out as much as they ever will. From this point on the male pattern baldness pattern takes over top and front - your regimen should help you with that, if you stick with it.

Just stay on the treatments and check out some thickening shampoo's. Experiment with various lengths and styles, but don't go too long. Sometimes hair dye appears to give hair extra body (purely cosmetic) and thickens it up a little.

 

[Thin]

That's awful, man.

Now this sounds more appropriate. I guess my pictures on my cell phone did make it look like i was only suffering from male pattern baldness.

I'm thinking of going get a thyroid test from a doctor who specialize in thyroid hormone. He convinced me to go to him in his article about how even though your blood test can come out normal you can possibly still have thyriod problems.

I hope he doesn't mind me posting it but here is part of his article

Cellular resistance
In some cases, an individual’s blood test can indicate a sufficient supply of hormones in the blood, yet the hormones fail to work at the cell level. One possible reason: Blood tests reveal the amount of circulating thyroid hormone, but not ‘cellular resistance’— yet many physicians are unwilling to treat thyroid problems unless they ‘definitely’ show up in blood tests, despite the fact that research has shown that blood tests are not always conclusive. So thyroid hormone resistance can be a tremendous, often ignored, problem that potentially affects a large percentage of patients.
Thyroid hormone resistance is occurs when the receptors where thyroid hormones are supposed to bind in the body are not working correctly. Receptors can malfunction due to vitamin and mineral deficits, as well as from the presence of heavy metal toxicities. Excess trans fatty acids (commonly found in the standard American diet) can also cause a malfunction of these receptors. Moreover, the production of autoimmune antibodies, commonly found in many illnesses (e.g., Hashimoto’s, Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, etc.) can block thyroid receptors from properly responding to thyroid hormone.
Even if thyroid hormone resistance is present, blood tests are likely to indicate normal thyroid functioning, but the patient will have many signs and symptoms of hypothyroidism. The treatment for the problem of thyroid hormone resistance involves addressing the underlying cause, and sometimes requires the use of thyroid hormone.

This part of the article made me think about all the guys out there who had got their thyroid tested and it came back normal.

 

[tchehov]

I was going over a few of the older threads - one poster said he was diagnosed hypothyroid and had treatment for it but the hair problem continued. His guess was that the thyroid condition kickstarted his male pattern baldness, and advanced it by a few years. He sounded very angry and disillusioned, as you would. A bit like myself really - I no longer trust hope.

If you have access to professionals, use them. Here in Ireland everyone is an alcoholic or a gunman, usually both.

Slan.