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[Wolf Pack]

i've thought about it all being placebo, but at the same time that's a lot of people with it to just chalk it up to being in their head.

Millions taking it I am sure and there are like a few hundred vocal men with "PFS." A very very low percentage. Placebo, pre existing mental illness is more likely the explanation.

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so as someone in the medical field you think there really is a super tiny chance of permanent propecia sides? like one in a million?

also do you think i could have safely started it a few months after turning 17, when i first started going bald?

I don't think it has been proven to exist and I highly doubt it exists. finasteride has gone through enough clinical trials and post marketing use. Nothing has been found on blood work, imaging, hormonal panels e.t.c to blame finasteride on. Temporary sides exist for sure. Some of the things highlighted on that forum are laughable if not so sad. Blaming Propecia for dementia yet he can use his laptop. Or that he has multiple sclerosis yet his EMG is normal.

Hmm officially they say wait until 18 and the body is developed which makes sense. I think it's always tricky starting a bit younger and a personal risk.

 

[xetudor]

My bad, it's true: http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/propecia/propecia_ppi.pdf

Damn, I don't understand how other people can still take that gamble, when even the official sources admit that persistent sexual side-effects can occur.

The argument "You can just try it and then if you get sides, you stop it!" doesn't stand anymore.

I still think finasteride is the drug of the devil when it comes to hair loss. You take a big risk, I mean, if you value your libido and your sex life.

Good for people who can take it without any trouble, but if I had gone anywhere near it, I would have grown tits. But my gyno was caused by another medication.

Are you refering to the "The following have been reported in general use"? Those side effects are reported because people taking Propecia had them, it doesn't necessarely mean it caused them.
Like seriously, "problems with ejaculation that continued after stopping medication". Give people a sugar pill and this side effect will 100% be reported.

Did you know you can die from a simple antidiarrhea medication? A condition called toxic megacolon can develop. It was a listed side effects of a very popular over the counter medication. Some people can even die from peanuts. Are peanuts a gamble too?

Are we supposed to live our lives in absolute terror? You get a toothache, ****, it will get infected, spread and you'll die. Women should stop having babies because of the risks. Even something enjoyable as going to the beach will kill you, skin cancer, drowning etc. What if your airplane's pilot might decide to crash it on purpose? What then?

 

[Saurabhaj]

What i read about Finasteride is that..
the side effects of Finasteride are proven in some cases..
This is very important line..

It doesnot matter if you had sides,
it does not matter if you are luck,
it does not mattet if sides are one in a million.

what matters is that taking Finasteride may cause sexual side effects,decrease in semen volume , in few people.
This is enough to understand the rist of taking Finasteride.

Dont be wreckless using it..
be cautious,if your semen volume or sexual sides are coming abandone the drug..

Remeber,you are One in Million patients taking finasteride.
It may happen to you.

 

[xetudor]

What?

Everything in life is risky. Just staying in the sun is risking. Going in a car is risky, doing anything worth doing is risky. A lot of people go skiing now, poor souls, don't they know it's super dangerous? Or all those fat people walking around, with their insanely high risk of diabetes (which has some serious side effects, like losing limbs or even their sight) and heart disease. If you're fat, finasteride should be the least of your worries.

But if one guy on the internet said his dick wasn't as hard after he took finasteride, everybody looses their minds.

 

[Hairloss23]

Personally I think PFS is a real condition but I think the vast majority of "cases" are psychological and/or instances where the user already had ED, which we have to remember is a common problem facing men, especially as they get older.
There are 3 real PF syndromes IMO, there's the obvious ED/low libido/psychological issue, and the other 2 are gynecomastea and taking Finasteride before you are fully developed, although I don't think the age restriction for finasteride should be raised, I think the final issue should be dealt with on a case by case basis for each Dermatologist to decide. However this will probably never be done because most derms know **** all about hair loss.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Gynecomastia is well established as a rare cause of finasteride. It's not part of the so called pfs. But gyno is more likely to happen due to many other diseases, it's that rare from finasteride. Sexual sides happen in a small minority and are temporary - from finasteride anyway.

 

[Hairloss23]

Gynecomastia is well established as a rare cause of finasteride. It's not part of the so called pfs. But gyno is more likely to happen due to many other diseases, it's that rare from finasteride. Sexual sides happen in a small minority and are temporary - from finasteride anyway.

Yeah I know it's not part of pfs I was just naming all the possible long lasting effects of finasteride after use.

 

[JTS]

I've been in touch with no less than two urologists who have patients with PFS, one has even treated several cases of finasteride induced CPPS that are far worse than mine. The **** can do a number on you, thats for sure.

 

[Saurabhaj]

Gyancomastia is not attribuited to Finasteride..

Gyanacomastia may have occured because of increased in Estrogen levels in the person due to any other reason like androstenidione ti estrogen.

I have reffered almost all author book in medical field related to gyanacomastia,from Leosperoff of surgery to Harrison of Medicine...
no one mentioned it...

never.

 

[Hairloss23]

Gyancomastia is not attribuited to Finasteride..

Gyanacomastia may have occured because of increased in Estrogen levels in the person due to any other reason like androstenidione ti estrogen.

I have reffered almost all author book in medical field related to gyanacomastia,from Leosperoff of surgery to Harrison of Medicine...
no one mentioned it...

never.

It says in the pamphlet given to you with Propecia that the drug can cause breast swelling or tenderness...

 

[winnyblues]

What i read about Finasteride is that..
the side effects of Finasteride are proven in some cases..
This is very important line..

It doesnot matter if you had sides,
it does not matter if you are luck,
it does not mattet if sides are one in a million.

what matters is that taking Finasteride may cause sexual side effects,decrease in semen volume , in few people.
This is enough to understand the rist of taking Finasteride.

Dont be wreckless using it..
be cautious,if your semen volume or sexual sides are coming abandone the drug..

Remeber,you are One in Million patients taking finasteride.
It may happen to you.

The mindset of a pusssssy
People who are cautious in everything they do in life will not be successful/live life to the fullest because they dont take risks

 

[Hairloss23]

The bold does not necessarily get rewarded, it's often the opposite.

bald*

FTFY

 

[xetudor]

And people who are not cautious enough end up broke, homeless or even killed.

It's no wonder pessimists are more successful and live longer.

The bold does not necessarily get rewarded, it's often the opposite.

There is a big difference between calculated risks and careless risks. It's a little extreme to never enter a car because of the risks. Finasteride is the gold standard treatment, it's the only approved hair loss medication that tackles the root cause of hair loss. It has been studied for decades, there is a ton of research on it. If hair loss is causing great anxiety or it's affecting your quality of life, science is there to help you.

Getting pregnant is riskier for a woman that finasteride is for men. Taking an over the counter medication can result in death or some serious side effects. How come people don't go all hysterical about these things?

 

[Cue Bald]

I took 25mg of Propecia (5 proscar) and nothing happened. Next time I get a batch I might give 50mg a go. You guys who are ultra sensitive to medications should give dihydrocodeine, carisoprodol, alprazolam a go if you want to experience real side effects. I can just imagine the pandemonium on the PFS boards if they ended up going through tramadol withdrawal :shakehead:

 

[CaptainForehead]

Well, not really. My father found himself going bankrupt because his company failed. If he didn't have my mother at the time, he would have slept in a cardboard.

What business did he have Fred?

 

[CaptainForehead]

He was selling car parts.

Like in a physical store?

Has he been out of work since the bankruptcy?