To all of you are concerned about your hair loss - hope!

[Fena2000]

So you just have to mutilate your body, eat for 6 people, get your skin to age faster and basically look like a thug to overcome your hair loss?

That's right, NW1 people just sit on their *** and get even more respect and tail than you ever would looking like a caricature.

Once again, there are no shortcuts, no magical formulas in this struggle. Only hair will compensate for a lack of hair.

Thug, no matter what I do with my hair, even if I would put a diamant in my hair, I look like I'm a homeless person. I can't go to a nice dress up party anymore, I just look like trash. Today at the store , I looked in the mirror on accident, It looked like when I was asleep last night, a herd of cows had been licking my head.

 

[EvilLocks]

Again with the "my experience = everybody's experience" im pleased for where you are now but not everyone has the donor or available resources to get where you have. Reiterating how fvcked everyone is because they are bald is not really helping. Most of us are made aware of these 'truths' on a daily basis. Negativity is fine but can we not be constructive?

I'm a norwood 5 and yes, looking after your appearance does make a significant difference. I can say this first hand from getting in shape, I get more attention from girls despite the same bald head.

Ask 100 girls what they prefer. A skinnyfat, poorly dressed bald guy that looks like an egg on a stick or a bald guy in decent shape that dresses well and takes care of his appearance.

We've already established a million times that being bald is a handicap in appearance, let's look at ways in which someone can look and feel better about himself despite being bald

An excellent post, doublebatman! I would give you rep but it says I need to spread it around before giving it to you again (like who made that rule, pretty stupido!)

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Today at the store , I looked in the mirror on accident, It looked like when I was asleep last night, a herd of cows had been licking my head.

I know this is not supposed to be funny but I just got an image in my head of cows licking your head while you sleep and I lol'd. Of course it's not funny that your hair looked bad, I can understand better than anybody how thinning hair ruins your life and every day is a bad hair day..

 

[Wolf Pack]

A skinnyfat, poorly dressed bald guy that looks like an egg on a stick

Tried to rep you for good insight and generally lifting the mood. This is why this section needs people willing to think outside the box to help those who have lost a lot of hair and can't do much.

Reason I singled out this bit, this is like a nightmare none of us want to ever face.

 

[doublebatman]

The answer wouldn't matter because women always want to sound politically correct.

But thanks to that beautiful tool that is the internet, we know what they really go after.

They will also all say that they want a sensitive guy who will listen to their problems while having sex with the arrogant hot NW1 who treats them like crap.

You know what they would all prefer? A guy who has hair, a normal guy, and as women have an infinity of choices nowadays, they will get that guy.

We all know who's going to win between the fullhead and the baldy, it goes without saying. More options is always better

The point was that every single time the girl is going to prefer a guy that looks after his appearance. If you're fat or dress like a slob that sends signals to people about personality and other habits.

He's fat? Much be lazy and undisciplined, etc..

Be the best person that you can be. Stay fit, dress well, take care of your appearance and pursue a career and hobbies. Its not going to change the fact that you're bald but nothing's less attractive than a bald man that doesn't give a **** about himself

 

[JimmyJones]

While a guy will always be better looking with a nw1, all I can say is that these things - tan, gym, beard and pierced ears really help. Got my nw2-2.5 forehead tanned, gained like 12lbs in the gym, got my ears pierced and ive got to say I look a whole lot better. I will gain like 25lbs, get more tanned, my beard is developing fast now and i will pull off the shaved look somehow.

With alot of effort a bald guy can look acceptable/good, the sad part is imagining how handsome you couldve been with the same effort if you were to keep nw1...

I didn't know you were serious about going through with that Toms. Congratulations on keeping to your word. I'm glad it has worked out for you. I need to start hitting the gym more.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

I didn't know you were serious about going through with that Toms. Congratulations on keeping to your word. I'm glad it has worked out for you. I need to start hitting the gym more.

IMO Toms threw in the towel way too early. NW2 and already giving up. Huge mistake!

If he is able to pull it off, then more power to him, but why give up at this point when you pretty much have a full head of hair? I know Toms thinks he got gyno after a couple of finasteride pills and I am not here to debate him on whether or not that actually happened, but I just see way too many guys give up the fight when they don't have to. The war against hair loss is easier to fight with hair on your head than without it.

 

[hellouser]

They will also all say that they want a sensitive guy who will listen to their problems while having sex with the arrogant hot NW1 who treats them like crap.

Which begs the question:

Where are the women that CAN makeup their mind?

 

[JimmyJones]

IMO Toms threw in the towel way too early. NW2 and already giving up. Huge mistake!

If he is able to pull it off, then more power to him, but why give up at this point when you pretty much have a full head of hair? I know Toms thinks he got gyno after a couple of finasteride pills and I am not here to debate him on whether or not that actually happened, but I just see way too many guys give up the fight when they don't have to. The war against hair loss is easier to fight with hair on your head than without it.

How did he give up? If you shave your head and still have hair balding is less noticeable. Respect to him for not bitching about it and focusing on other things. I'm sure he will go down the hair transplant or future cure road one day. If finasteride gives you sides it gives you sides and since everyone here takes it for aesthetic reasons it makes no sense to take it if you look aesthetically worse than to begin. In my case it aged me. Old men with full heads of hair look stupid.

 

[bilboswaggins]

That's not true it is quite easy to get results with a little dedication. I lifted for 4 months and even during that short time I had people compliment me on my gains. True it takes longer if you are naturally tall and skinny but even my 6'3 68kg friend was able to put on noticeable mass after just a few months.

 

[Dikek]

That's the problem with bodybuilding talk, the guys who are into it and got some results primarily because of their genetic predisposition just can't imagine that some guys can't.

And trust me I can't, for example, I have belly fat that will never go away, even when I weighed 60 kg for 190 cm (and that's really skinny), that belly fat was still there.

It's the main reason I can't get "bulked" or "huge" by eating more, because all that food is going to go right into my belly while leaving the rest of my body skinny as hell.

I have seen very few people who have the same problem as me. Usually they have little to no fat in their bellies, while I still have a great deal of fat there at 72 kg.

I'm glad it works for you, but please acknowledge that it will never work for some people because of their genetic predisposition.

i'm having the same problem in the last 2 years and i'm skinny as you (i think i'm more proportionate, i'm short but weight almost the same as you, just a couple of kg less), i succeeded to burn some belly fat eating a little better but it's still there, nothing problematic but i hate it, we have to ****ing run and get some chest muscle, the only way, sadly the fat in the body works different for everyone, we have to overkill the entire body fat to target the belly, some idiot think you have just to do crunches to burn the fat in the area.... well no.

 

[Giiizmo]

If you want to lose your "belly fat" do cardio exercises for 20-30mn at the highest intensity you can bear for as much as you can while giving yourself enough time to recuperate. I'd search and link some studies on PubMed but I'm sick of this forum censoring links by default. Yes, some people will have a really hard time seeing their abs without liposuction but it's possible in most cases.

And as for muscle gain, if a scrawny 5'5" little $hit like myself can go from 104 pounds to nearly 134 pounds in 6 years while still getting to see my abs, you have no fvcking excuses. Train well, eat well, sleep well and most importantly, keep at it.

 

[shookwun]

See, you won't give up? I've been morbidly underweight yet that body fat was still there, and we all know you can't target fat loss.

Even with all that running, my body isn't going to change its way of working and all of a sudden lose the fat in the belly.

I will never ever see my abs without liposuction. I'm not part of these most cases. But I've accepted it, it's not like it's a big deal like hair loss.

U keep trying to logically convince yourself of all the reasons why but the reality is it's as simple as breaking down calories, and macros.

 

[Exodus2011]

lol everyone is different . . . . . i hate when people say "i could do it so that means you can too". that doesnt make any sense at all . . . . . ME AND YOU ARE TWO DIFFERENT FREAKING PEOPLE

 

[doublebatman]

lol everyone is different . . . . . i hate when people say "i could do it so that means you can too". that doesnt make any sense at all . . . . . ME AND YOU ARE TWO DIFFERENT FREAKING PEOPLE

You're right but there are some people that use that as an excuse. I see it all the time with fat people.

"Just because you lost weight it doesn't mean I can"
"B-but my metabolism and genetics"

With hair, not everyone can regrow hair or be a decent candidate for hair transplant

Everyone however can lose weight

 

[shookwun]

You're right but there are some people that use that as an excuse. I see it all the time with fat people.

"Just because you lost weight it doesn't mean I can"
"B-but my metabolism and genetics"

With hair, not everyone can regrow hair or be a decent candidate for hair transplant

Everyone however can lose weight

Next you'll hear 'I have a thyroid problem, and really fast metabolism'

Excuses are for people who need them.


I had **** genetics prior to bodybuilding, never ever seen someone skinnier and more frail then I was - 120-125LB 11 inch arms at 19. Five years later I have 18.5 inch arms, around 193-197LB at 5'10. Body fat wise around 11-13.

 

[shookwun]

Hi,

IMHO the fat distribution is highly influenced by genetics as well as hormones. Take a look at the female boybuilders, they virtually turn into men because of the high use of anabolic steroids. That's why a lot of them require breast implants to appear at least a little bit female ;-)

Long story short: everybody can build some muscle mass and lose fat, but there seems to be a genetic and hormonal threshold level. And I repeat it: very little people can actually "look like they lift" to the unexperienced viewer. Most people also have no idea what one achieve naturally if they don't lift themselve. If you where to tell such a person you're into bodybuilding they would just laugh at you because they would expect anybody involved in bodybuilding to look like Arnold. It's just not possible without a lot of drugs.

regards
Kater Kahlohr

Bodybuilding is chemical warfare. it's all drugs, and strong work ethic. All though drugs alone wont build a championship physique, that's where work ethic, high receptor affinity, and large, and genetically superior muscle bellies come in hand.

Loosing fat on other hand is simple. let's not beat around the bush on this one, and talk about genetics this, that. Maybe yes for building a physique, but not so much for naturally loosing weight. Everyone want's to figure out a special way to loose weight when it's as simple as caloric reduction, and having the right macros in your diet.


As for looking like you lift, most naturals if not all will never look like they lift. The ones who do generally have large muscles, and a frame to begin with but are limited towards looking skinny, and shredded or big, and bloofy. it's all drugs..... Almost all bodybuilders once off become 160LB former twinks.

 

[doublebatman]

Bodybuilding is a little different from losing weight. Genetics play a strong influence as height, muscle insertions, T levels etc.. make a huge difference. That said most people with the right routine and diet can make significant changes to their physique.

Semi related

Here's a bald guy that really turned **** around. Went from a 2/10 to 5/6 imo

 

[JimmyJones]

Bingo. That's what I've always been saying. I have had trainers who have looked at my scrawny body and have been honest:

"You can lift, it will be good for you health, but you won't get much visible results."

b**ch please, why would I lift if I can't get visible results? 99.9% of bodybuilders do it to look sexier and for the ladies, even though they will say it's for their health. Yeah right.

Fred I hope you at least do cardiovascular exercise.

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That's the problem with bodybuilding talk, the guys who are into it and got some results primarily because of their genetic predisposition just can't imagine that some guys can't.

And trust me I can't, for example, I have belly fat that will never go away, even when I weighed 60 kg for 190 cm (and that's really skinny), that belly fat was still there.

It's the main reason I can't get "bulked" or "huge" by eating more, because all that food is going to go right into my belly while leaving the rest of my body skinny as hell.

I have seen very few people who have the same problem as me. Usually they have little to no fat in their bellies, while I still have a great deal of fat there at 72 kg.

I'm glad it works for you, but please acknowledge that it will never work for some people because of their genetic predisposition.

I have that stubborn body fat to. The only way to get rid off it is through a cosmetic procedure.

 

[JimmyJones]

Well no indeed. There's only one way to remove that fat effectively, and it's liposuction.

I know people don't like to hear that because it sounds like you are taking the easy way.

But if you keep trying to do crunches to burn fat and exercise like crazy while hoping that fat will go away, you're taking the impossible way.

There are countless examples of this on bodybuilding forums, people who say that their belly fat won't go, and it will never go.

You don't see any success for those stories. And occasionally there is the wise guy who tells it like it is: get lipo if you want that fat to go.

Then this guy gets flamed of course: "Nooo, if he had dedication, he could, where there's a will bla bla". Yeah right.

It's like telling people with hair loss they don't try hard enough on natural treatments to save their hair and that's why it doesn't work.

Just read this, seems you agree.

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U keep trying to logically convince yourself of all the reasons why but the reality is it's as simple as breaking down calories, and macros.

No Fred is right here. I for six months straight did cardio every day and only eat protein and vegtables. No carbs. I lifted weights and took fat burner supplements (they do work). After six months I got a 4 pack but there was a tiny bit of fat on my stomach that wouldn't go. There is a UFC fighter that has this (and they are cardio machines) but I can't remember his name. Also ethiopian little black kiddies have a belly even though most die of starvation. If I ever go down the cosmetic road I will do my six month plan again to save money. Less fat to cut out of me that way.

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Twice a week, with my girlfriend.

Just twice a week? That's beta man

 

[JimmyJones]

Well, she works two jobs and work full-time too, the rare times we can get together, we make the most of it.

If that what she tells you then fine. :uglylol: