Topical Finasteride - User Experiences

[Mr. Slap Head]

The ultimate topical would contain either 0.25% dutasteride or 0.025% finasteride with 15% minoxidil and 5% RU but idk if that's possible with dissolving all of that. But also it would be probably be better to use minoxidil and RU twice daily but use the others just once. So have one bottle just with those two used one part of the day and another bottle with all three of them used the other part.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

I use it. It works really well. I only use .1% topical mixed with 15% Minoxidil. Use it twice daily. Sometimes I take oral Finasteride.

Where do you get it?

 

[badnewsbearer]

I still have not recovered from the side effects 8 weeks later. however it is now clear that the topical finasteride did not necessarily prolong those sides as I had them for 2 months after stopping finasteride altogether. I have significant erectile dysfunction and low libido although the latter may be caused by the depression I have been experiencing. overall a pretty shitty outcome, probably should have stopped after getting sides on oral and maybe tried on a very low dose instead of just starting topical with a high dose directly after stopping oral. I have not learned anything out of this "experiment". rn I cant even have sex with v**** as I am not responding to it properly. I have made an appointment with a urologist in a few months time. the crazy thing is I actually felt better having zero libido and sexual sides and no hair loss than I did with high sexual function and pretty fast progressing baldness. my mind was more at ease when I had the sides. however now the hair loss starts to return and the sides are still around so that sucks. might as well get back on it but I want to clear up with a doctor if there is organic alterations to the penile tissue because that would be devastating. crazy to think a low dose of finasteride could even do that.

 

[Analogies]

I still have not recovered from the side effects 8 weeks later. however it is now clear that the topical finasteride did not necessarily prolong those sides as I had them for 2 months after stopping finasteride altogether. I have significant erectile dysfunction and low libido although the latter may be caused by the depression I have been experiencing. overall a pretty shitty outcome, probably should have stopped after getting sides on oral and maybe tried on a very low dose instead of just starting topical with a high dose directly after stopping oral. I have not learned anything out of this "experiment". rn I cant even have sex with v**** as I am not responding to it properly. I have made an appointment with a urologist in a few months time. the crazy thing is I actually felt better having zero libido and sexual sides and no hair loss than I did with high sexual function and pretty fast progressing baldness. my mind was more at ease when I had the sides. however now the hair loss starts to return and the sides are still around so that sucks. might as well get back on it but I want to clear up with a doctor if there is organic alterations to the penile tissue because that would be devastating. crazy to think a low dose of finasteride could even do that.

Get on low dose TRT combined with Oral finasteride to protect your hair. Guaranteed your dick will start working again. This comes from personal experience…

Also, get your total and free testosterone and estrogen along with SHBG tested before starting.

 

[losingbattle88]

I still have not recovered from the side effects 8 weeks later. however it is now clear that the topical finasteride did not necessarily prolong those sides as I had them for 2 months after stopping finasteride altogether. I have significant erectile dysfunction and low libido although the latter may be caused by the depression I have been experiencing. overall a pretty shitty outcome, probably should have stopped after getting sides on oral and maybe tried on a very low dose instead of just starting topical with a high dose directly after stopping oral. I have not learned anything out of this "experiment". rn I cant even have sex with v**** as I am not responding to it properly. I have made an appointment with a urologist in a few months time. the crazy thing is I actually felt better having zero libido and sexual sides and no hair loss than I did with high sexual function and pretty fast progressing baldness. my mind was more at ease when I had the sides. however now the hair loss starts to return and the sides are still around so that sucks. might as well get back on it but I want to clear up with a doctor if there is organic alterations to the penile tissue because that would be devastating. crazy to think a low dose of finasteride could even do that.

Welcome to post finasteride syndrome club buddy glad to have you onboard. Nobody can help you, not even an urologist, there are no treatments or cures for post finasteride syndrome.

 

[Analogies]

Welcome to post finasteride syndrome club buddy glad to have you onboard. Nobody can help you, not even an urologist, there are no treatments or cures for post finasteride syndrome.

Horrible advice. As someone who walked around for 2 years with no libido before starting TRT, I would highly disregard the post above. You will be fine

 

[losingbattle88]

Horrible advice. As someone who walked around for 2 years with no libido before starting TRT, I would highly disregard the post above. You will be fine

Trt cures post finasteride syndrome? No it doesnt, people have tried that already.

 

[Analogies]

Trt cures post finasteride syndrome? No it doesnt, people have tried that already.

Is that right? Do you have a reference to back that up?

Doctors told me I was within range having a 550 total test level. And that I didn’t need TRT. Then when I went to a specialist who said for someone of my age (25YO at the time of starting) I should be in the upper end of the testosterone spectrum. i began with a low dose. I didn’t see any significant changes until I began upping the dosage without my doctors advice that I began to see my libido return. When I got tested again it came back within 900-1000 range. Some people function better at higher levels.

 

[losingbattle88]

Is that right? Do you have a reference to back that up?

Doctors told me I was within range having a 550 total test level. And that I didn’t need TRT. Then when I went to a specialist who said for someone of my age (25YO at the time of starting) I should be in the upper end of the testosterone spectrum. i began with a low dose. I didn’t see any significant changes until I began upping the dosage without my doctors advice that I began to see my libido return. When I got tested again it came back within 900-1000 range. Some people function better at higher levels.

I guess u havent been on propeciahelp at all. Most have tried trt with absolutely no change. Do you keep taking trt? And my total T was 480 at age 20. Doctor said all was fine. And my libido was to the roof. So ur full of bullshit.

 

[Analogies]

I guess u havent been on propeciahelp at all. Most have tried trt with absolutely no change. Do you keep taking trt? And my total T was 480 at age 20. Doctor said all was fine. And my libido was to the roof. So ur full of bullshit.

Or maybe you don’t understand how hormones work. There’s something called Free T. Your total may have been 480 but your free T if not bound by SHBG would be the source of your high libido. Keep in mind if your total/free estrogen is in the dump, you could also suffer from low libido…. But I guess I’m full of bullshit…

 

[losingbattle88]

Or maybe you don’t understand how hormones work. There’s something called Free T. Your total may have been 480 but your free T if not bound by SHBG would be the source of your high libido. Keep in mind if your total/free estrogen is in the dump, you could also suffer from low libido…. But I guess I’m full of bullshit…

Post finasteride syndrome has nothing to do with your hormones buddy, Its permanent receptor damage. You know nothing. Or TRT would have been the cure to pfs but it isnt because People Still suffer for 10,20 years on propeciahelp.com and a cure or a fix havent been found yet by leading experts. If you told guys on propeciahelp to just get on TRT They would laugh in your face. Pfs is wayyy more complex than that you just got Lucky. And free T was low too buddy lol wrong again. It was 17nmol/L normal would be 22 and up for a damn 20 year old. Im 34 now so it must be slightly lower even lol.

 

[Analogies]

Post finasteride syndrome has nothing to do with your hormones buddy, Its permanent receptor damage. You know nothing. Or TRT would have been the cure to pfs but it isnt because People Still suffer for 10,20 years on propeciahelp.com and a cure or a fix havent been found yet by leading experts. If you told guys on propeciahelp to just get on TRT They would laugh in your face. Pfs is wayyy more complex than that you just got Lucky. And free T was low too buddy lol wrong again. It was 17nmol/L normal would be 22 and up for a damn 20 year old. Im 34 now so it must be slightly lower even lol.

What rock did you crawl out from under? Last I checked Finasteride is a hormone modulator of DHT which is a hormone.
Also, instead of puffing up your chest, and being bitter about whatever your circumstances are, let’s do a thorough review of your blood test. Care to post your labs?

Moreover, libido is primarily driven by testosterone, estrogen and DHT working in synchronization. One persons optimal levels may not be the same for another. The reason I suggested using TRT is the fact that it increases all three hormones. Thus, if you’re deficient in any of the three it would provide a positive outcome.

if you’re going to be bitter about life and attempt to bring down those looking help someone down on their luck, I’d appreciate it if you moved on with your negativity. I won’t pay you anymore attention.

 

[losingbattle88]

What rock did you crawl out from under? Last I checked Finasteride is a hormone modulator of DHT which is a hormone.
Also, instead of puffing up your chest, and being bitter about whatever your circumstances are, let’s do a thorough review of your blood test. Care to post your labs?

Moreover, libido is primarily driven by testosterone, estrogen and DHT working in synchronization. One persons optimal levels may not be the same for another. The reason I suggested using TRT is the fact that it increases all three hormones. Thus, if you’re deficient in any of the three it would provide a positive outcome.

if you’re going to be bitter about life and attempt to bring down those looking help someone down on their luck, I’d appreciate it if you moved on with your negativity. I won’t pay you anymore attention.

And you cant even read or comprehend what I said Goodbye.

 

[badnewsbearer]

Post finasteride syndrome has nothing to do with your hormones buddy, Its permanent receptor damage. You know nothing. Or TRT would have been the cure to pfs but it isnt because People Still suffer for 10,20 years on propeciahelp.com and a cure or a fix havent been found yet by leading experts. If you told guys on propeciahelp to just get on TRT They would laugh in your face. Pfs is wayyy more complex than that you just got Lucky. And free T was low too buddy lol wrong again. It was 17nmol/L normal would be 22 and up for a damn 20 year old. Im 34 now so it must be slightly lower even lol.

what even is "permanent receptor damage". thats not exactly a scientific formulation. receptors are constantly synthesized over and over again, they cant be damaged they are just proteins. if there was some permanent condition it must be on the either genetic(highly unlikely) or expression so epiginetic level. there is also no real high value proof of the latter where this has been shown. I am also not a fan of self diagnosing. my hormones are normal and in fact as they were before finasteride so I see no sense I taking TRT @Analogies my explanation is the most triste one which people on androgen deprivation get after many months where their actual penile tissue is being compromised and smooth muscle cells have been replaced by non functional tissue like collagen/fibrosis. this happens due to a lack of oxygenation when there is a lack of regular erections or due to a rise in pro fibrotic factors in the absence of androgens. most know this as a venous leak or rather veno occlusive dysfunction. if mine does not improve I am striving to get a test done for this in the future. they inject a vasodilator in your penis and measure with ultrasound the in and outflow of your penis. if the outflow is above a certain range then there is a structural problem of the penile tissue which can almost never be corrected and in most men results in requiring a penile implant. I hope this is not what I have but I would not be suprised at this point.

 

[badnewsbearer]

Welcome to post finasteride syndrome club buddy glad to have you onboard. Nobody can help you, not even an urologist, there are no treatments or cures for post finasteride syndrome.

i do not believe in self diagnosing with a condition that has no scientific proof and more importantly a syndrome where you can not do an actual test to verify whether you have it or not. I believe in persistent side effects from finasteride but I think these have many possible scientific explanations, things that localized androgen deprivation does to the tissue. but pfs seems to be all over the board and every study finds a different anomaly. so what is it? its like saying "post smoking syndrome", sure smoking harms your body and can cause issues but its not like you can have an unified syndrome where you can have a validated test that tells you whether you have it or not. like what test would I do to find out if I have pfs? there is none. and that makes it kind of shady. however I feel for everyone who has persistent issues from this sh*t

 

[losingbattle88]

i do not believe in self diagnosing with a condition that has no scientific proof and more importantly a syndrome where you can not do an actual test to verify whether you have it or not. I believe in persistent side effects from finasteride but I think these have many possible scientific explanations, things that localized androgen deprivation does to the tissue. but pfs seems to be all over the board and every study finds a different anomaly. so what is it? its like saying "post smoking syndrome", sure smoking harms your body and can cause issues but its not like you can have an unified syndrome where you can have a validated test that tells you whether you have it or not. like what test would I do to find out if I have pfs? there is none. and that makes it kind of shady. however I feel for everyone who has persistent issues from this sh*t

Well pfs gave me brain damage then because I have a libido and can get erect easily but I havent felt horny in years, and I dont get dopamine rush in my Brain after an orgasm anymore. Only feel the orgasm itself down there. But I stopped feeling horny down there after the crash. It happens after you quit dht blockers, thats how you get this crash and permanent syndrome. Total endocrine system crash when dht rushes back to the receptors.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Horrible advice. As someone who walked around for 2 years with no libido before starting TRT, I would highly disregard the post above. You will be fine

yeah but will your hair be fine on TRT?

 

[losingbattle88]

yeah but will your hair be fine on TRT?

Dude is probably bald now after having 1000 total T rofl.....

 

[badnewsbearer]

Well pfs gave me brain damage then because I have a libido and can get erect easily but I havent felt horny in years, and I dont get dopamine rush in my Brain after an orgasm anymore. Only feel the orgasm itself down there. But I stopped feeling horny down there after the crash. It happens after you quit dht blockers, thats how you get this crash and permanent syndrome. Total endocrine system crash when dht rushes back to the receptors.

you sound like someone who believes a vaccine can cause autism and MS. show me one study, even a case report suggesting receptors "can get crushed by dht rushing back to the receptors". this sounds totally mad. also zero, zero scientific publication on this matter and where pfs is discussed nobody talks about "damaged receptors after dht "rushing" back to the receptors".

the problem I think is that you talk like you are a world renowned researcher and as if your "theory" is scientifically secured when in fact the exact opposite is the case, there is no evidence to support this and in fact the lack of evidence and backing by renewed researchers in endocrinology and neurology kind of suggest this is not an actual thing. even pfs papers dont talk about this. in fact pfs papers talk about a different cause of it every time. there is no unified theory probably because a syndrome in that sense does not exist. that does not mean people cannot be damaged by the drug and have not been. but it means that this classic idea of a syndrome that has very specific markers is probably not a thing. also how can you have "total endocrine" crash while at the same time suggesting hormone levels are not off at all in pfs patients? thats a contradiction.

it'd be fine if you suggested this could be a thing but you seem hell certain that this is how it is, talk about it like I could read about it right now in a text book which I cannot because it is highly debated even among specialists

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

you sound like someone who believes a vaccine can cause autism and MS. show me one study, even a case report suggesting receptors "can get crushed by dht rushing back to the receptors". this sounds totally mad. also zero, zero scientific publication on this matter and where pfs is discussed nobody talks about "damaged receptors after dht "rushing" back to the receptors".

the problem I think is that you talk like you are a world renowned researcher and as if your "theory" is scientifically secured when in fact the exact opposite is the case, there is no evidence to support this and in fact the lack of evidence and backing by renewed researchers in endocrinology and neurology kind of suggest this is not an actual thing. even pfs papers dont talk about this. in fact pfs papers talk about a different cause of it every time. there is no unified theory probably because a syndrome in that sense does not exist. that does not mean people cannot be damaged by the drug and have not been. but it means that this classic idea of a syndrome that has very specific markers is probably not a thing. also how can you have "total endocrine" crash while at the same time suggesting hormone levels are not off at all in pfs patients? thats a contradiction.

it'd be fine if you suggested this could be a thing but you seem hell certain that this is how it is, talk about it like I could read about it right now in a text book which I cannot because it is highly debated even among specialists

are you autistic?