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I thought you said your hairline thickened from topical finasteride though?
Topical Zinc Thymulin For The Treatments Of Androgenetic Alopecia
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I thought you said your hairline thickened from topical finasteride though?
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Been using since the beginning of June, and yes I am. I outlined my routine a few pages back
Wow so you've been on topical finasteride for 3 months and no significant decrease in shedding yet? Hopefully the zinc thymulin works.
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Hair’s Zinc Level on Androgenic Alopecia
Abstract: Androgenic alopecia is characterized by progressive loss of hair from the scalp. This research aimed to determine the hair and blood zinc levels in men with androgenic alopecia. The research was conducted in the Departement of Dermatovenereology of Dr. Wahidin Sudirohusodo Hospital, Makassar and the Center for Health Laboratory, Makassar, using the observational research method. The samples comprised 21 males with androgenic alopecia and 11 control samples without androgenic alopecia. The hair and blood of the samples were analyzed using the atomic absorption spectrophotometer receipts. The results showed that there was significant difference (p <0.05) between the levels of androgenic alopecia hair zinc and control. On blood zinc levels found no significant differences between androgenic alopecia and control. Hair zinc levels had a significant relationship with the degree of Hamilton, where the lower the levels of zinc in the hair androgenic alopecia, the greater the degree of Hamilton. However, things are different, between blood zinc levels in hair zinc levels and degrees of Hamilton that there is no significant difference. In this study also found between age and degree of Hamilton, where the increasing age, the greater the degree of Hamilton.
http://article.sciencepublishinggroup.com/pdf/10.11648.j.ajcem.20160405.13.pdf
Abstract: Androgenic alopecia is characterized by progressive loss of hair from the scalp. This research aimed to determine the hair and blood zinc levels in men with androgenic alopecia. The research was conducted in the Departement of Dermatovenereology of Dr. Wahidin Sudirohusodo Hospital, Makassar and the Center for Health Laboratory, Makassar, using the observational research method. The samples comprised 21 males with androgenic alopecia and 11 control samples without androgenic alopecia. The hair and blood of the samples were analyzed using the atomic absorption spectrophotometer receipts. The results showed that there was significant difference (p <0.05) between the levels of androgenic alopecia hair zinc and control. On blood zinc levels found no significant differences between androgenic alopecia and control. Hair zinc levels had a significant relationship with the degree of Hamilton, where the lower the levels of zinc in the hair androgenic alopecia, the greater the degree of Hamilton. However, things are different, between blood zinc levels in hair zinc levels and degrees of Hamilton that there is no significant difference. In this study also found between age and degree of Hamilton, where the increasing age, the greater the degree of Hamilton.
http://article.sciencepublishinggroup.com/pdf/10.11648.j.ajcem.20160405.13.pdf
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Zinc is also believed to play a crucial role in DNA and RNA production.....
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Then if he gets a shed from the minoxidil in a few months will it be blamed on the Zinc Thymulin not working?
Why not just stay on the current regimen and add this stuff in addition, that way you can see if ZT is making a difference?
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I’d probably stay on it man, I don’t think it would hurt as long as you can still apply the ZT 2 or more times a day in addition to min
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Have you taken any photos pre applying this stuff? If you haven't maybe take from Front and Top please. We need to know what it does to temple and crown.
What Norwood are you now and your age please.
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Yeah think I will.. 2 times.. Dr Vickers told me try 10-15 times, my jaw dropped
You mean 10-15 times a day ?
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Yup, I can't spray this on my head every hour though lol. I'll try 5-6 times a day
They just started. Give them 3 months to test
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Honestly uploading pictures of my hair on here just makes me uncomfortable I'd rather not... I do have before photos though so If this turns out to give awesome regrowth I'll make a before and after pic no problem. Just a personal thing. I'm 24 at nw3 with diffuse thinning.
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I asked him about frequency of application and some other questions a few months back. This was his reply:
“answers to questions:
The ZT is soluble in water and penetrates down the hair follicle to the bulge region where the stem cells reside by simple diffusion. The area is not keratinised within the hair follicle organ and thus does not prevent absorption.
The current recommended technique is to spray onto the scalp and gently rub in 3-4 times each day. Evaporation of water occurs in 1-2 minutes. However, 2 clients place a bathing cap on the head, cut a small hole and inject 5-10 ml onto the scalp and leave it there for several hours (or longer) and report fantastic results. They are trying to replicate what happens in the science laboratory (and for that matter the scalp with hair) where the bulge stem cells are exposed to activating peptides such as ZT for 24 hrs/day. A direct comparison would suggest something like a 5X increase in the peptide availability in the hair follicle. Simple and cost effective to do. Another person wants to try a derma roller approach after soaking the spray - probably would be effective as well. Another has asked if i can formulate a local injection approach with the peptide in a slow release form like a sustained release or extended release form- there is definitely merit in that idea as well. The longer you can have the ZT peptide in the hair follicle then the better the results and faster more complete hair growth. I am sure there will be good ideas coming from the forum !
regards Dr Vickers”
Again, this is a new treatment so there hasn’t been much data to collect yet. He’s encouraging us to try out different things - personally I think the dermaroller approach will show the fastest and best results but unfortunately I can’t do that because I’m using liposomal finasteride. He’s basically saying that there are probably better methods in terms of results than just spraying it multiple times a day. That’s up to us to figure out
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I wouldn't dermaroll normally daily, I think that'd be too much for your skin to handle. Maybe just dermaroll weekly, or do it very lightly daily to cause erythema (redness of skin caused by increased blood flow)