Topical Zinc Thymulin For The Treatments Of Androgenetic Alopecia

kiwipilu

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Everyone relax, there are enough people here testing this (including myself) & we will know in the next few months how effective it is. I'm nearly 6 weeks in & shedding seems to be slowly decreasing. It is a b**ch to apply if you don't have buzzed hair however

ye that's the good thing established members like you are tryin this out
 

Mr White

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After careful consideration, I've decided not to buy Dr Russell's spray. Not yet, at least. It's still too early and my spider sense is ringing. I'll give Trinov a try and then I'll look into this.
 

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Do you know the mechanisms behind thymulin? How this was a peptide before it was a treatment for hair loss and people claimed it helped them regrow? I don’t think you have researched the mechanisms behind thymulin / thymus peptides... otherwise you (someone who hasn’t tried this or any thymus peptide derived treatment) might have a different opinion. Do the research before you dismiss this as onion juice, it’s not fair to the other members of this forum.

So why haven't you been able to explain to me why hasn't there been any links or proof that ZT can regrow hairs?
Since you are such an expert.

Can we agree that the photo evidence is not up to scientific base proof that this drug actually regrow hairs on top of a human scalp?

Now I'm glad you are testing this because we can safely seperate your interest from the producer interest.I'm not saying to stop trailing this, I'm only saying base on that photo evidence I would not flood in and start ordering this product like it is an actual cure for cancer.
 

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So why haven't you been able to explain to me why hasn't there been any links or proof that ZT can regrow hairs?
Since you are such an expert.

Can we agree that the photo evidence is not up to scientific base proof that this drug actually regrow hairs on top of a human scalp?

Now I'm glad you are testing this because we can safely seperate your interest from the producer interest.I'm not saying to stop trailing this, I'm only saying base on that photo evidence I would not flood in and start ordering this product like it is an actual cure for cancer.

I have posted multiple different links earlier in this thread of anecdotal cases of bodybuilders / athletes using tb500 (thymosin beta 4, very similar to thymulin) that have regrown their hair while on it. I myself have tried tb500, although not for a very long time, and have definitely noticed a reduction in shedding. The reason why I, nor anyone else haven't been able to prove that ZT can "regrow hairs" is because this is the first time it has ever been available. Myself and the other ZT users that started this about a month and a half ago are the first to ever do it - besides the participants in the study. If you want some proof, here's an old *** man from the study yhat sprouted some weak intermediate hairs in 4 months:
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Now, I understand that these results aren't a "cure", it is far from it. And yes the picture has different lighting which is a bit unprofessional. But the appearance of new vellus / intermediate hair is undeniable. I think this is rather impressive for only 4 months.

I'm not trying to clash egos with you. But when a member that is uneducated on a potential treatment drops in and blurts out "scam! onion juice!" it is discouraging to other people to try it. It happens repeatedly on this forum for any treatment that isn't min/finasteride. If you want to find out more information for yourself, google tb500 hair or thymosin beta 4 hair. You'll find scientific studies, patents, articles, forum posts, etc. But don't dismiss something you aren't familiar with as a scam because you don't really know sh*t about it.
 

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Has anyone emailed the Dr. recently? Any news on website, production, price, etc?
 

MK94

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Hi guys,

I want to try this stuff and buy it. How i do? I have checked the site hair29.com but there is not product.

Give a chance for zinc it is known to be the best anti dht
 

keepit

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Hi guys,

I want to try this stuff and buy it. How i do? I have checked the site hair29.com but there is not product.

Give a chance for zinc it is known to be the best anti dht
You can contact him directly his link is on page 29 on this thread..you might as well wait to see if anyone gets any results from this topical people here are coming up to 2 months on this treatment so we will know soon
 

Vinc2097

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I’ve been using ZT for around 4 weeks. I have noticed a decrease in shedding. The product is pretty simple to apply and dries quickly...way better than Minoxidil. I’m still using minoxidil at night and use the ZT a couple times during the day. Nothing substantial in terms of regrowth at this point but it’s probably too early to expect to see anything.

how long is your hair ?
 

Kenkyuusha

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Why does dr Vickers sell a product that has not been extensively tested first? How can it work if it is water-soluble? I don’t really buy his explanation..
Why an improved version so soon if you already have a product that is supposed to be very good?
 

ZenHead

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Why does dr Vickers sell a product that has not been extensively tested first? How can it work if it is water-soluble? I don’t really buy his explanation..
Why an improved version so soon if you already have a product that is supposed to be very good?
If you put a peptide in anything else, (like ethanol) it will denature and destroy the peptide. Peptides in general are water soluble, theyre just amino acid chains. Usually peptides are injected after reconstituting with bacteriostatic or sterile water, water doesn't denature the peptide unless you expose it to heat or let it sit too long. That's why he says make sure to mix a new bottle every 4 weeks. As for it not being extensively tested, the trial was close to a year long. The man is a very prestigious stem cell scientist / doctor - i'm sure he has more important things to work on besides hairloss, but he still came through with a solution. Personally I'm on my second month and I can tell there is a decrease in shedding for sure. no regrowth yet.
 

keepit

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Why does dr Vickers sell a product that has not been extensively tested first? How can it work if it is water-soluble? I don’t really buy his explanation..
Why an improved version so soon if you already have a product that is supposed to be very good?
It makes sense if this original version doesn't work Dr vickers will upgrade for selling purposes.
 

scaredaf

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Hi Guys,

Quick question, is this the sort of thing I could take in lieu of Minoxidil as that irritates my scalp?

Thanks :)
 

bigjimmy

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It makes sense if this original version doesn't work Dr vickers will upgrade for selling purposes.

several members are testing it at the moment, we don't need people coming on every day with their boring scam theories.
 

keepit

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several members are testing it at the moment, we don't need people coming on every day with their boring scam theories.
Fair enough I'm testing it myself so taking high resolution pics for proof...
 

TK421

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If you put a peptide in anything else, (like ethanol) it will denature and destroy the peptide. Peptides in general are water soluble, theyre just amino acid chains. Usually peptides are injected after reconstituting with bacteriostatic or sterile water, water doesn't denature the peptide unless you expose it to heat or let it sit too long. That's why he says make sure to mix a new bottle every 4 weeks. As for it not being extensively tested, the trial was close to a year long. The man is a very prestigious stem cell scientist / doctor - i'm sure he has more important things to work on besides hairloss, but he still came through with a solution. Personally I'm on my second month and I can tell there is a decrease in shedding for sure. no regrowth yet.


Decrease in shedding is very encouraging to hear. However, I'm not sure if you'll know 100% if the ZT is giving results if you're still on other treatments (topical finasteride, tb500, etc.).
 

ZenHead

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Decrease in shedding is very encouraging to hear. However, I'm not sure if you'll know 100% if the ZT is giving results if you're still on other treatments (topical finasteride, tb500, etc.).
that's fair. I gave tb500 a 2 month run but stopped because it was getting really expensive. haven't taken it in about a month now. And I'm probably dropping / reducing my liposomal finasteride application to once per week since I'm using a dermapen weekly now and don't want it to go systemic.
 

keepit

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To those who have been using this stuff for a while.... any updates?
Only on this 2 or 3 weeks don't see any difference yet will give it 2 months till next update hopefully something might spring into life,also going to add the derma pen to this regimen
 

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Only on this 2 or 3 weeks don't see any difference yet will give it 2 months till next update hopefully something might spring into life,also going to add the derma pen to this regimen
All the best brother!

Keep us informed.
 
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