Tsuji Hair Cloning Q And A Information: Needs Translation

[disfiguredyoungman]

@Fuji Maru Kagurazaka
Sempai,
Tasukete kudasai!

We are already past that, bruh.

 

[itsjustsimon]

Jesus I try to be careful with my expectations but if this works ut as planned this is amazing news. if finasteride stops working i can just sell my flat, ge this done and be the hairiest homeless person on the planet

even if not, if we have an affordable treatment like this within 10 years, actual 10 years not postponed 5 times then this is excellent news. not sure why this is not blowing up on the forum

Because news is coming from a random guy on the internet.

 

[glammetal]

So it's finally done, but we are short of money..at least we finally have a treatment

I like the way you think!

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

Because news is coming from a random guy on the internet.

Yeah, I'd take it with a grain of salt, but keep in mind what an elaborate ruse it had to be just to fool us. Guy has activity on twitter and youtube with the topic baldness and actually took a picture with Tsuji in their office.

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

I don’t think Tsuji will be the only company successful at this. Not long after Tsuji is commercialized, competition will catch up. It won’t be 10 years of waiting.

 

[dark souls]

If it really works it wont take 10 years until its finally available for ordinary people. Every Company will rush to be the first one to offer a cure to hairloss. This is a Billion Dollar Business, just imagine if you have the first mover adventage.

 

[Unspecified]

On (un)related note Invitrohair is now providing IP protected hypoimmunogenic Dermal Papillae cells. They also announced their method could be applied to already banked cell lines (under GLP compliance).

 

[OneDay_NW0]

Wow, finally it's really done. But it should be forbidden for all those ""ThE iNdUsTrY iS eViL, ThEy DoN't waNt to GiVe us a cUre, cAuSe they're All seLLiNg fiNaStEriDe" cry-b****s, blaming those scienticts for their insecures.

 

[Trichosan]

On (un)related note Invitrohair is now providing IP protected hypoimmunogenic Dermal Papillae cells. They also announced their method could be applied to already banked cell lines (under GLP compliance).

I couldn't find anything on patents by Tsuji, but Invitro's process is patented. Hopefully, things don't get off track by patent legalities. Article here:
https://www.folliclethought.com/invitrohair-exclusive-interview/

 

[Zon Ama]

Wow, that are some really good news.

I personally think the price will drop much faster than 10 years. How many people can afford and are ready to pay a treatment which costs 200-300k? Very few, maybe 5000-10000. The goal of every company is to cover the R&D cost and make profit. Its obviously more profitable to sell that treatment to 1.000.000 people for 10-20k (depends on the real work cost) than to 10.000 people for 200k.

 

[ZP31]

Everyone comment on the video requesting english subtitles!

 

[ZP31]

our new hero. the japanese are the best

They really are. I’ve always kept faith in Tsuji’s work because of what I’ve learned about the way of Japanese business in university. They honour their word and they mean what they speak.

 

[Subigang]

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@petersonKj
Questions:
1-Do you know when they are planning on commercializing it?

2-Do you think it will be available to people internationally in the first years? / how exclusive will the treatment be?

3-How quickly do you think the price will drop?

4- You were told they were doing clinical experiments with people. Did they gave any info when the results are coming out?


Answers:
1-.I have heard that patient treatment will begin in 2020-2021.Tsuji’s technology.

2-.I think that surgery will be carried out in order from the wealthy and those who understand surgery. 2020~2021 year. Treatments are available to public. But 20~40 million yen.

3-.It will take at least 10 more years. The price will drop to a price that even ordinary people can afford.

4-.He showed me the detailed path from clinical experiments to full-scale deployment.

Dude, holy sh*t thanks for doing this!

This is great news, but per usual don’t get your hopes up too high. If it was commercialized in 1-2 years that would be insane

 

[soull]

Everyone comment on the video requesting english subtitles!

To translate the video follow the steps of the captures.

I'm wearing it in Spanish but the steps are the same.

 

[PaulFr29]

Reading this thread it feels like witnessing the premise of a revolution in the history of mankind. (which will actually be one if it indeed translates in real life procedures)
I'll pray for this to come true. I'm on finasteride and probably will undergo a hairtransplant in one year or two, but knowing that this solution exists for later in life would be such a relieve. You wouldn't have to stress about the graft counts as much anymore, and could actually start designing younger looking hairlines and be more creative thus satisfied with your results.
I might start playing Euromillion again just to get in line first when I win

 

[ZP31]

To translate the video follow the steps of the captures.

I'm wearing it in Spanish but the steps are the same.

Thanks for the steps. I watched the video myself with the subtitles and managed to extract similar information that lines up with what other users have posted.

2019 - Clinical research being conducted. The video eludes to the idea that, this year, the first humans ever have been implanted with hair follicles using Tsuji’s method. The results of this clinical research will be reported at the end of 2019.

(I think its not considered a clinical trial because they are probably only implanting a few cells to see how it reacts on the human scalp.)

2020-2021 Clinical trials and commercialization for the wealthy elite.

(The interviewer said this will cost anywhere from 20-40 million yen which is 180-360k USD. My guess as to why the price range is so high is that it depends on how much hair they need to add to your head).

The 10 year reference does appear to be regarding price, not commercialization.

“It seems that it will still take about 10 years for the average person to come down to a price that can be reached”.

So essentially we should see this treatment in a human being within the next 2 years.

It’s really f*****g happening boys. The cure is coming, in our lifetime.

 

[tabletable]

I wonder if its gonna work without any sides. This is of course by no means comparable to getting a FUT, but remember how disastrous they used to look, or the plugs. This is of course not a hair transplant, but how will it actually work?

Im trying to be positive here though, but its difficult. Good thing is that because of the cost I wont be the first one to get it, lol.

 

[ZP31]

I wonder if its gonna work without any sides. This is of course by no means comparable to getting a FUT, but remember how disastrous they used to look, or the plugs. This is of course not a hair transplant, but how will it actually work?

Im trying to be positive here though, but its difficult. Good thing is that because of the cost I wont be the first one to get it, lol.

You need to do more research. Pretty well every company that is attempting stem cell type regeneration has a method for that.

With Riken they will be using some sort of nylon thread to guide the direction of growth.

 

[tabletable]

You need to do more research. Pretty well every company that is attempting stem cell type regeneration has a method for that.

With Riken they will be using some sort of nylon thread to guide the direction of growth.

they are injecting a bunch of cells that then form a follicle within your scalp. like it happens when you are an embryo in the womb basically. of course, they aesthetic aspect might be difficult but i don't think its something much harder to manage than a hair transplant. in fact, it will be easier because it allows to achieve much higher density than a regular hair transplant. i guess it will be like PRP injection wise, with the difference of it working obviously actually creating new hair, unlike prp

Thanks for the reply lads. I did dig a lil deeper in this after my post. A guy talked about the risk of developing cancer. Is this a potential risk? I mean they are gonna study people for 1-2 years, but what if cancer starts developing after 15 years?

If this works perfectly and comes to a reasonable cost in 10 years I would be extremely thankful though.

 

[ZP31]

This is awesome that they are still planning to have it available in the next couple years. I was hoping it wouldn't be more than 50 thousand USD though. Sounds like it's going to be twice that. Now I have to decide if it's worth a couple more years wait and the cost of a starter home, or if I should just bite the bullet and get a hair transplant. I'll probably wait to make a decision until we have more information about Shiseido's cost and efficacy.

Buddy it’s gonna cost six times that much