Ucla Scientists Identify A New Way To Activate Stem Cells To Make Hair Grow

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Some of us going to try using something like sodium lactate and see if that does anything. Using UK is too risky - blocking the energy to the mitochondria basically means you're starving it to death. There is no coming back from death - only (hopefully) miniaturization.
 

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Man one thing I don't understand about trials and experiments. Why do they always use animals? Like for every kind of treatment out there that's in the works you bet you could find a solid amount of humans to be the first ones to try it. Not everything that works for mice works for humans lol I hope someone tries to pass a bill where humans can be the first ones tested on it would be quicker as well. Cause if this guy from UCLA could've worked on humans first and not fucken animals we would all be a bit fucken excited

Just a few laws and maybe a code of ethics for scientists standing in the way. I'll admit, tho, I'd love to see a cowboy gung-ho type, a Dr. Frankenstein-like UCLA researcher skip the lab test animals and make a beeline straight to an "IT'S ALIVE!" eureka moment for hair loss. That'd be rilly cool.

“Life, although it may only be an accumulation of anguish, is dear to me, and I will defend it.” - Mary Shelley's 'Frankenstein'
 
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I've only been around for 2-3 f*****g years and my hair went from fullhead to near Nw6 lol.

Very aggressive hair loss.

Im just coping for that eventual sideless f*****g maintainance we should've had back in f*****g 2000
You want to keep your nw6?
 

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Its funny because a guy just posted about levels of lactate causing male pattern baldness like a day or two ago. Kudos to that guy he figured this out before this study came out to solidify that.
With how complicated male pattern baldness is though we need to see this work in humans before its worth getting excited about. We dont know how significant this is yet if its a huge player or a minor one. Sometimes certain pathways turn out to be minor contributors, and the results of manipulating it arent as impressive as they sound on paper.
This does sound like it could be close to a root cause of male pattern baldness, but one discovery at a time. Might be decades before this bears fruit.
 

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Its funny because a guy just posted about levels of lactate causing male pattern baldness like a day or two ago. Kudos to that guy he figured this out before this study came out to solidify that.
With how complicated male pattern baldness is though we need to see this work in humans before its worth getting excited about. We dont know how significant this is yet if its a huge player or a minor one. Sometimes certain pathways turn out to be minor contributors, and the results of manipulating it arent as impressive as they sound on paper.
This does sound like it could be close to a root cause of male pattern baldness, but one discovery at a time. Might be decades before this bears fruit.
Go look at the beginning of that thread your referring to please.
 

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Theyre all balding? Guess I'd prefer a mutual agreement type arrangement but whatevs one of you will have meet me at the fence during yard time so I can throw my journal with interviews over and post them.
 

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Not really impressed by these studies anymore since they have been coming out for decades and we are still no closer to a cure. Ah if only I could have been born a mouse, I would totally be pulling tons of mouse chicks with my lab grown negative Norwood. Sadly I am a poor balding man and I think I will just invest my hopes and dreams on the companies actually working towards something like Follica and Tsuji.

Agreed 110%

My hype for this news, if you were to put a number on it, lies at exactly zero; studies like this have been published for decades and precisely f*** and all has come from them toward an actual treatment in 90% of cases. IIRC, it was a student or something that made this discovery? Just some neat find that looks good on a resume and won't actually be pursued further

and even if it is, and it could be used to develop something worthwhile, it's too far off for me to give a sh*t.
 

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Agreed 110%

My hype for this news, if you were to put a number on it, lies at exactly zero; studies like this have been published for decades and precisely f*** and all has come from them toward an actual treatment in 90% of cases. IIRC, it was a student or something that made this discovery? Just some neat find that looks good on a resume and won't actually be pursued further

and even if it is, and it could be used to develop something worthwhile, it's too far off for me to give a sh*t.
I do think it'd be interesting to see what it does for humans but it's definitely not going create new hair unfortunately.
 

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This does sound like it could be close to a root cause of male pattern baldness, but one discovery at a time. Might be decades before this bears fruit.

UCLA scientists don't discover how to activate stem cells in vivo every day, but when they do they get the research published in Nature Cell Biology, a prestigious peer-reviewed scientific journal. Yup this could be huge.
 
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Some of us going to try using something like sodium lactate and see if that does anything. Using UK is too risky - blocking the energy to the mitochondria basically means you're starving it to death. There is no coming back from death - only (hopefully) miniaturization.

How is your sodium lactate trial going? I've been pondering about trying UK5099 with minoxidil for a few weeks but your post gives me cause for concern. Potential side effects aside, I think it's application is a one time process which is not reversible? There is some info on it's solubility, not sure if it will mix with minoxidil (can't link so will paste below):

For long term storage, we suggest that UK 5099 be stored as supplied at -20°C. It should be stable for at least two years. UK 5099 is supplied as a crystalline solid. A stock solution may be made by dissolving the UK 5099 in the solvent of choice. UK 5099 is soluble in organic solvents such as DMSO and dimethyl formamide (DMF), which should be purged with an inert gas. The solubility of UK 5099 in these solvents is approximately 5 and 15 mg/ml, respectively.

UK 5099 is sparingly soluble in aqueous buffers. For maximum solubility in aqueous buffers, UK 5099 should first be dissolved in DMF and then diluted with the aqueous buffer of choice. UK 5099 has a solubility of approximately 0.5 mg/ml in a 1:1 solution of DMF:pBS (pH 7.2) using this method. We do not recommend storing the aqueous solution for more than one day.

Pyruvate transport into mitochondria is facilitated by mitochondrial pyruvate carrier (MPC) 1 and 2, two small transmembrane proteins that are part of a larger 150 kDa protein transport complex in the inner mitochondrial membrane. UK 5099 is a specific and potent inhibitor of MPC carrier activity. It potently inhibits pyruvate-dependent oxygen consumption by rat heart mitochondria with an IC50 value of 50 nM.
 
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