Update From The God Himself - Dr. Takashi Tsuji

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0.00001% chance Tsuji's hair cloning "completely failed" and he resigned to quit everything. The actual cloning technology was completed years and years ago; the past couple years have, from my reading, been about fine-tuning it to ensure it can be performed on humans without complications and negative side effects in a fully safe way.

At the same time, I don't know what to think of the apparent secrecy of everything...specifically the idea that human trials may have begun many months ago but no outside folks know about it? Maybe that's normal? Maybe not? I really do hope they have done trials and it really is on track to be commercialized in FY 2021. I won't be able to afford it then, but the sooner it comes out the sooner the price will drop over time and assuming I'm still in my late 20s or early 30s when it's affordable I'm definitely getting in line. :)
 

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0.00001% chance Tsuji's hair cloning "completely failed" and he resigned to quit everything. The actual cloning technology was completed years and years ago; the past couple years have, from my reading, been about fine-tuning it to ensure it can be performed on humans without complications and negative side effects in a fully safe way.

At the same time, I don't know what to think of the apparent secrecy of everything...specifically the idea that human trials may have begun many months ago but no outside folks know about it? Maybe that's normal? Maybe not? I really do hope they have done trials and it really is on track to be commercialized in FY 2021. I won't be able to afford it then, but the sooner it comes out the sooner the price will drop over time and assuming I'm still in my late 20s or early 30s when it's affordable I'm definitely getting in line. :)
I agree. I think the lack of news and reports is making people impatient and fear for the worst. We've already had multiple delays and there's nothing else as effective as Tsuji on the horizon. I think a 2021 is very optimistic but if so it will be very limited and extremely expensive. I'm assuming that I won't be able to afford this until at least a decade.
 

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0.00001% chance Tsuji's hair cloning "completely failed" and he resigned to quit everything. The actual cloning technology was completed years and years ago; the past couple years have, from my reading, been about fine-tuning it to ensure it can be performed on humans without complications and negative side effects in a fully safe way.

At the same time, I don't know what to think of the apparent secrecy of everything...specifically the idea that human trials may have begun many months ago but no outside folks know about it? Maybe that's normal? Maybe not? I really do hope they have done trials and it really is on track to be commercialized in FY 2021. I won't be able to afford it then, but the sooner it comes out the sooner the price will drop over time and assuming I'm still in my late 20s or early 30s when it's affordable I'm definitely getting in line. :)

How can you expect it to be commercialised in 2021?

All we know is that they are on their 3rd generation for their technology, all we really have from them is their talk about preliminary clinical trails which was aimed at 2020, from an interview in 2018.

what their own website says is.

"We are continuing our R&D in an anticipation of clinical application as the world’s first case of organ regeneration in humans." - Organ Technologies

So how can you come up with 2021 ?

Even if we take into consideration of Tsuji obvious BS from 2018, we still haven't seen a study being done in animals and less than 2 years after going commercial. So its a pretty weird statement, some would call it unprofessional statement.

"The team aims for commercialization of the technique as soon as 2020" - Japan Times
 
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Obviously Takashi Tsuji and Organ Technologies are still working together otherwise Organ Technologies wouldnt publish an article of him:

http://www.organ-technol.co.jp/news/20200422/612.html


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hoping for hair related news as soon as possible!!
 

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I despise the Chinese dogs, but I commend them on their dealings with uppity nogs:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/business/mcdonalds-china-coronavirus-sign-trnd/index.html
Guess that makes them "racist," and thus axiomatically "not that bright," right? But wait - the Chinese aren't white, so if you call them racists - and thus stupid - then you must be...racist!

Oh, and look at that - evidence that COVID escaped a chink lab continues to grow:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/04/13/best-evidence-yet-coronavirus-came-wuhan-bsl-4-lab-14712

Where did @Hairismylife go? The chink who claimed China built carriers, amphibious assault ships, military bases in Africa and contested waters, and decided to sail a carrier strike group through the straights of Taiwan in the middle of a pandemic because "self defense?" That COVID came from the US LOL? Or did the Guangdong edition of the People's Daily miss these empirical truths?

As if the mods have not banned this prick for this entire post. “Uppity Nogs”. What a waste of oxygen you are. Your problem isn’t hair loss, your actual personality, view and low level IQ is. It’s a shame you are taking up resources on earth, it really is. What a loser
 

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As if the mods have not banned this prick for this entire post. “Uppity Nogs”. What a waste of oxygen you are. Your problem isn’t hair loss, your actual personality, view and low level IQ is. It’s a shame you are taking up resources on earth, it really is. What a loser

Lots of name-calling, lots of ad hominems, and of course, the cliche "low IQ" insult. Tell me, do you consider Dr. James Watson to have a low IQ? How about Newton? How about every great intellect pre-1965?

Reality is racist, you programmed robot. Read some psychometric studies and genetic data re. IQ, brain volume, and race. Hint: It's no coincidence that African never produced a great civilization, created a complex written language, developed seafaring technology (despite being surrounded by oceans), or created a wheel before the continent was colonized.

If you think it's such a shame that I'm taking up resources, PM me - maybe I'll give you a chance to do something about it. You game, tough guy?
 

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Agreed. But then you go read the Wikipedia hair cloning page and you are wondering wtf did Aderans stop their research. They had found a cure if they would treat people right after puberty.

Wikipedia says "Phase II trials they found that the process was not suitable for multiplication but instead it revitalized the follicles and successfully prevented future loss. The trials continued in 2012. Aderans decided to discontinue the funding of its hair multiplication research in July 2013. "
 

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Agreed. But then you go read the Wikipedia hair cloning page and you are wondering wtf did Aderans stop their research. They had found a cure if they would treat people right after puberty.

Wikipedia says "Phase II trials they found that the process was not suitable for multiplication but instead it revitalized the follicles and successfully prevented future loss. The trials continued in 2012. Aderans decided to discontinue the funding of its hair multiplication research in July 2013. "
HairClone’s treatment is supposed to be an upgraded version of what Aderans did I think. People that were involved with Aderans are also involved with HairClone currently
 
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HairClone is supposed to be a upgraded version of what Aderans did I think. People that were involved with Aderans are also involved with HairClone currently

But then it's decade old and they found a cure for everyone wanting to stay nw0 as long as the treatment is done early. Were they banking for the fact everybody would wake up to late to use the drug?
 

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But then it's decade old and they found a cure for everyone wanting to stay nw0 as long as the treatment is done early. Were they banking for the fact everybody would wake up to late to use the drug?
Their aim is to de-miniaturise the follicles by injecting DP cells, which they extract from the banked follicles en then multiply. They will also use the banked follicles for the next gen treatment, which is hair multiplication
 

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Wikipedia mentions Intercytex but Aderans had a cure unless you are already bald. So sad!

It pains me. The funding was pulled just because it didn't bring people back from a NW7. For both of them actually, and I believe Aderans also wanted to keep focusing on hair systems and wigs rather than medical intervention.
 

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Gotcha. Selling treatment that require one session is less lucrative than selling prosthesis devices. Bastards!
 

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Just found this comment on folliclethought:

I have confirmation of the 2019 pre-clinical study for Androgenetic Alopecia. Takashi Tsuji authored a research paper last year in which the following quote appears: “Because hair follicle stem cells are the only adult stem cells possessing organ-inductive potential that can be transplanted autogenously, the first human clinical trial of organ regenerative therapy will undoubtedly investigate hair follicle regeneration. The regeneration of hair follicles using our organ germ method is *now being investigated in a pre-clinical study to cure patients suffering from androgenic alopecia*, with an aim of conducting clinical trials in 2020.” —T.T. for Takashi Tsuji (Functional ectodermal organ regeneration as the next generation of organ replacement therapy. March 2019 issue of Open Biology).

To study the practicality of the method, they must actually transplant the organ germ into a human head. It seems reasonable to believe after more than a year—the article was submitted in January 2019—they have tested on at least one human Androgenetic Alopecia subject, most likely a small injection site—I believe the mouse study showed 28 organ germ injections produced 128 hairs per cm2. Perhaps one could take the skeptical approach and doubt Tsuji’s credibility, the method, and the timeline. I choose not to.
 
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