venting and ranting.. sorry, bad day.

[jeffsss]

GOD, when will it end!??????????

It wont.. i'm diffuse thinning till I have none left....

it's like i'm being punished by God for some reason.

all the hair on my head is now fine... I don't lose thick hair anymore b/c I dont have any left!!!!!

I wash my hair today in cold water and ever so gently apply my shampoo and ever so gently rinse..

I try not to look at my hands anymore.. but i do.. and i find 10 hairs at a time in the lathered up soap of my hands..

get out of the shower and just dab the top of my head with a towel. wait till it's almost dry to comb it.. comb with ease.. bamm...... 20 more hairs stuck to the comb..

i've unscrewed 2 of the 4 lights in my bathroom so the bright lighting doesnt show my scalp as much.

it's horrilbe.. and i'm sorry for crying about it so much but hair losss is literally controlling my life.. how i act.. what i do.. what i think..

I remember the days.. less than a year ago. it took me 5 mins to get ready after a shower. i'd vigiriously towel dry my head. apply gel, mess it up, and i was out. I'd pay 100k to have those days back. you never know what you have until it's gone.

I sit and look at my self in the mirror. i use my g/fs compact mirror to look at the back.. sure enough, it's extreemly thin. you can see scalp even when dry.

again, i'm sorry for ranting.. and i literally cried while typing this.. I know i'm a baby and i need to get over it and accept it.. but every day is the same nightmare.

god help me.

 

[hairwegoagain]

Keep the faith. Don't expect anything anytime soon. But know that eventually your hair will improve. Know that by treating it now that you'll have more hair than if you hadn't bothered.

Accept today that you will notice hair in your hands for at least 7 more months...so don't be surprised and cry when you see it tomorrow or the next day or.....etc. Stop looking. Does no good except to make you a maniacal mess and perhaps exacerbate your loss. This should no longer be a surprise for you. You will keep losing hair for a while. Accept it once and for all and know that the end result will be worth it.

The alternative is stopping treatment and losing everything much, much faster. There's nothing wrong with that route if you're OK with it...but it sounds like you want to treat it...so you have to accept the conditions of treatment. Do it now.

Neither your case of male pattern baldness nor treatment experiences are unique. They are textbook. Many have gone before you. Your treatment side conditions is nothing new nor special. Stop thinking they are and carry on so you can achieve what you want. NO BUTS.

 

[Aplunk1]

True Jeffsss.

God will only help you if you help yourself. Things will get better man. I mean, Propecia does induce sheds, so you must be responding pretty damn well. I bett you after this horrible shed is over, that you'll regrow a nice thatch of hair on your head.

I unscrewed 3 of the 4 bright lights in my bathroom (They're strategically placed right over the head to provide the most scalp vision), and that helps a little bit.

But man, understand that Propecia's results were only noticed after the year mark... They were best at the 2 year mark. Man, you gotta wait.

 

[camobear777]

Hang in there Brother things will get better soon. I feel you man hairloss sucks and we all in the same boat. Again, hang in there man things will get better just give it some time.

 

[jeffsss]

I literrally laughed out loud and slammed my hand on the bathroom counter..

it seems humanly impossilble to lose this much hair after combing gently..

every time i go though my hair there were about 15 hairs stuck to the comb making about 70 hairs? in the sink??

why can't i get the courage to buzz my head?

oh, that's right, i have a wrecker ball sized head, oily complexion w/acne.

life is grand.

 

[Siberian]

I literrally laughed out loud and slammed my hand on the bathroom counter..

it seems humanly impossilble to lose this much hair after combing gently..

every time i go though my hair there were about 15 hairs stuck to the comb making about 70 hairs? in the sink??

why can't i get the courage to buzz my head?

oh, that's right, i have a wrecker ball sized head, oily complexion w/acne.

life is grand.

That certainly DOES sound life shedding, not ordinary balding hair loss. I mean think about it: it took me YEARS to really notice I was balding. It's not like it all fell out over a few weeks. I never noticed hairs in the sink or whatever... just one day finally noticed it looked thin up there.

According to what I read here, shedding is a GOOD, though frightening, thing to have happen.

Regarding acne, I always had bad, serious acne. The cystic kind that leaves scars. By 24, I gave up and saw a dermatologist. After trying the usual things, I eventually risked using Accutane. Within 6 months, I had zero acne. None. For the first time in a decade my face was clear. Went away and never came back.

The ironic thing is, just as with Propecia, my acne actually got far WORSE for the first month. I called the dermatologist in a panic, and he told me to stick it out. Thank GOD I did, because it worked wonders for me. My wife and I now call it the "accutane effect" when referring to events like that, so I had to laugh when I signed on here and read all the shedding stories. Classic "accutane effect."

It's a dangerous drug (brain lesions, bleeding from dry lips, hands, severe nosebleeds, etc.), but as a last resort option, it usually works.

 

[jeffsss]

I literrally laughed out loud and slammed my hand on the bathroom counter..

it seems humanly impossilble to lose this much hair after combing gently..

every time i go though my hair there were about 15 hairs stuck to the comb making about 70 hairs? in the sink??

why can't i get the courage to buzz my head?

oh, that's right, i have a wrecker ball sized head, oily complexion w/acne.

life is grand.

That certainly DOES sound life shedding, not ordinary balding hair loss. I mean think about it: it took me YEARS to really notice I was balding. It's not like it all fell out over a few weeks. I never noticed hairs in the sink or whatever... just one day finally noticed it looked thin up there.

According to what I read here, shedding is a GOOD, though frightening, thing to have happen.

Regarding acne, I always had bad, serious acne. The cystic kind that leaves scars. By 24, I gave up and saw a dermatologist. After trying the usual things, I eventually risked using Accutane. Within 6 months, I had zero acne. None. For the first time in a decade my face was clear. Went away and never came back.

The ironic thing is, just as with Propecia, my acne actually got far WORSE for the first month. I called the dermatologist in a panic, and he told me to stick it out. Thank GOD I did, because it worked wonders for me. My wife and I now call it the "accutane effect" when referring to events like that, so I had to laugh when I signed on here and read all the shedding stories. Classic "accutane effect."

It's a dangerous drug (brain lesions, bleeding from dry lips, hands, severe nosebleeds, etc.), but as a last resort option, it usually works.

still it scares me for a couple reasons..
1. propeica never mentioned "shedding" in their trials. the only place i see shedding is forums.
2. the people who say they did experience shedding.. their hair never came back accoring to a poll on this forum recently.

 

[Weepy]

God Jeff, I'm sorry. I'm in the same boat. I look ridiculous right now, but I'm so scared to get a hair cut.

And remember, it's okay to vent in this forum. If it helps you keep your sanity, then use it. That's it's pupose. That's what it's here for!!!

Plus, we're all here for you. I know that hair is all I think about now to the detriment of all else. I shun social contact.

I have been drinking a lot lately too, but last night was the first night in three months I did not drink anything. I am talking a bottle of wine a night. But I am trying hard to stay sober. Last night, I also ate for the first time in two days. I am trying to get back up to my normal weight and force myself to eat.

 

[hairwegoagain]

Dude - give it a rest. You're not qualified to say what's normal and what's not...that's not meant as an insult. You're taking a poll from this website as gospel...that's absolutely f'ing insane. Remember that the guys voting in that poll are weirded out by the shedding as well...and basing a decision on the reactions of a bunch of panicing babies is unbelievably retarded. YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN IT NEARLY ENOUGH TIME, AND NEITHER HAVE THEY. What does it take to get this through your skull? One man to another - buck up and wait it out before you lose everything.

You other boys can come back and call me an a**h** - that's fine. There comes a time when a man has to take control of his mind. Suggest everyone do this ASAP before you really have something to cry about.

I literrally laughed out loud and slammed my hand on the bathroom counter..

it seems humanly impossilble to lose this much hair after combing gently..

every time i go though my hair there were about 15 hairs stuck to the comb making about 70 hairs? in the sink??

why can't i get the courage to buzz my head?

oh, that's right, i have a wrecker ball sized head, oily complexion w/acne.

life is grand.

That certainly DOES sound life shedding, not ordinary balding hair loss. I mean think about it: it took me YEARS to really notice I was balding. It's not like it all fell out over a few weeks. I never noticed hairs in the sink or whatever... just one day finally noticed it looked thin up there.

According to what I read here, shedding is a GOOD, though frightening, thing to have happen.

Regarding acne, I always had bad, serious acne. The cystic kind that leaves scars. By 24, I gave up and saw a dermatologist. After trying the usual things, I eventually risked using Accutane. Within 6 months, I had zero acne. None. For the first time in a decade my face was clear. Went away and never came back.

The ironic thing is, just as with Propecia, my acne actually got far WORSE for the first month. I called the dermatologist in a panic, and he told me to stick it out. Thank GOD I did, because it worked wonders for me. My wife and I now call it the "accutane effect" when referring to events like that, so I had to laugh when I signed on here and read all the shedding stories. Classic "accutane effect."

It's a dangerous drug (brain lesions, bleeding from dry lips, hands, severe nosebleeds, etc.), but as a last resort option, it usually works.

still it scares me for a couple reasons..
1. propeica never mentioned "shedding" in their trials. the only place i see shedding is forums.
2. the people who say they did experience shedding.. their hair never came back accoring to a poll on this forum recently.

 

[Siberian]

still it scares me for a couple reasons..
1. propeica never mentioned "shedding" in their trials. the only place i see shedding is forums.
2. the people who say they did experience shedding.. their hair never came back accoring to a poll on this forum recently.

I'm skeptical of shedding too. It's intereresting that it generally happens when people first begin a treatment - which is also when they're most likely obsessively checking for progress every few hours and feeling dissappointed and hopeless.

Most *sudden* hairless DOES reverse itself, being caused by something OTHER than male pattern baldness. It could be a change in diet, medications, stress, chemotherapy, etc. Almost anything. But the follicles themselves are still viable.

It's the slow, gradual thinning of hairs themselves over many years that's bad... evidence that the follicles are shrinking and dying.

Maybe you're over-treating with something in your regimine? Change in diet? New detergent?

 

[Z]

I unscrewed 3 of the 4 bright lights in my bathroom (They're strategically placed right over the head to provide the most scalp vision), and that helps a little bit.

Ha-ha! I did exactly the same thing a little while ago.

If you have a white or light coloured bathroom(which is quite often the case) it is worse as the light is reflecting around the room at all angles, thus hitting your hair at all different angles and showing up scalp easily.

 

[Siberian]

I unscrewed 3 of the 4 bright lights in my bathroom (They're strategically placed right over the head to provide the most scalp vision), and that helps a little bit.

Ha-ha! I did exactly the same thing a little while ago.

We have two sets of lights: one at the bathroom entrance, and the usual vanity lights. I refuse to turn on the vanity lights. I can see just fine with the doorway light, thank you.

Bright lights are also very misleading. I once took a picture of my scalp using a flash at the height of my Propecia regrowth a few years ago... and nearly passed out. I looked totally bald. And yet, in the mirror (no vanity light, lol), I seemed fine. My wife insisted I was fine too, that you don't notice it. She was as freaked by the photo as I was.

Point being, when out and about in public in ordinary lighting conditions, things rarely look as bad to other people as they do to ourselves.

 

[Aplunk1]

true

 

[jeffsss]

It's the slow, gradual thinning of hairs themselves over many years that's bad... evidence that the follicles are shrinking and dying.

the hairs I lose are getting very thin. about 5 months ago i shed thick big hairs.. now they're thin and weak.

Maybe you're over-treating with something in your regimine? Change in diet? New detergent?

unless propecia wasnt good for me i didnt change anything. my diet hasnt changed.


these things DID happen to me though, but it wouldnt cause hair miniturization:

June: pnemonia
August: started propecia
November: apendix rupture (bad... ) but i was already losing hair then.

 

[carter]

Jeffsss - one thing I wanted to say reading over your caution in how you handle your hair - I have one thin fragile little hair just in front of my hairline I noticed one year ago and despite washing my hair every day just in a normal way it just remains there. My understanding is that normal washing etc of hair does not cause the loss and certainly my personal experience proves that.

Just a thought.

 

[jeffsss]

Jeffsss - one thing I wanted to say reading over your caution in how you handle your hair - I have one thin fragile little hair just in front of my hairline I noticed one year ago and despite washing my hair every day just in a normal way it just remains there. My understanding is that normal washing etc of hair does not cause the loss and certainly my personal experience proves that.

Just a thought.

i know it doesnt really matter how you handle your hair.

but it gives me peace of mind to actually 'see' less fall out. know what i mean??

f*** hair loss

 

[jeffsss]

i love applying hair putty to my hair and counting 30+ hairs every time. what a lovely treat in the morning.

 

[cook'n'milkies]

i love applying hair putty to my hair and counting 30+ hairs every time. what a lovely treat in the morning.

Stop the products. They exacerbate hairloss. I have no scientific proof of this, just an instict. Plus, they just make people look goofy in my opinion. Like a jap anime character.

 

[Solo]

I don´t like products either.


Well, if they are well applied it´s ok, but normally people tend to do nasty things in their hair with them.

I prefer natural looking hair, which is very difficult to elaborate.

 

[jeffsss]

just f*****g awesome..

well, i figure i'll just rant in this thread everytime i'm pissed because I don't want to upset anyone..

I shower today and say.. what the hell, lets scrub the scalp clean.

good idea or not.. I lost about 70 hairs. how do i know? I pulled every individual hair off of my hands and stuck them onto the wall in groups of 10.

some were thin, some were thick.. some were short some were long.

I'm losing hope in propecia. I dont think that there are as many good responders as merck says.

I don't see it possible when i'm coming up on 6 months and I still lose MORE everyday than when i first started!!

I f*****g hate hair loss..

I still havet gotten the nerve to shave my head. I know i'm going to look retarded. I'm thinking about hair transplant's..

f*** sh*t motherfucker.. I hate life these days..................

I'm supposed to propose to my girlfriend. I dont want to be bald at the wedding. but i want a hair transplant.. what shitty timing..

and in my 20's? what the f***. i see stupid *** old men with twice as much hair as me.