Vitamin E (tocotrienols) And Hair Los

Arrade

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I can see vitamin E being good for hair in several ways:
1. Lowering excess estrogen - reduces inflammation
2. Reduces inflammation by other means
3. Increases blood flow

Of course I'm talking about supplementing orally
 

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I can see vitamin E being good for hair in several ways:
1. Lowering excess estrogen - reduces inflammation
2. Reduces inflammation by other means
3. Increases blood flow

Of course I'm talking about supplementing orally


i dont know man


i mean did anyone of you ever supplemented that sh*t?


i did it for skincare and a sideffect was that i got superhard erections and the amount of ejaculation skyrockets...eg the opposite effect of what finasteride does...


i dont know about you but my dht senses are tingling here hard
 

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just found this...VITAMIN E IS A DHT BOMB AND POISON FOR YOUR HAIR



https://anabolicmen.com/vitamin-e-testosterone/


DO NOT SUPPLEMENT VITAMIN E
A couple of notes before people go off the deep end:

1) The hairloss study used 100mg of Tocotrienols while the the study cited on Anabolic used almost 500mg of Tocopherols.
2) The study cited on Anabolic shows raised test and free test without effecting DHT. There are no studies that show it raises DHT. (Yes, I understand the relationship between test, free test, and DHT. If it raised DHT, every person on every bodybuilding forum would be mega dosing it.)
3) Many things that are good for your hair can cause hairloss if mega dosed or applied incorrectly. For instance, a small amount of IGF-1 on skin tissue can stimulate hair growth. A large amount of serum IGF-1 can potentially cause hairloss.
4) I have been taking 100mg of Tocotreinols/day for over 2 years. I can't tell if it has made a difference but since I am maintaining, it's not destroying my hair. I assume that Tocotreinols can be very effective for people that don't have androgenic alopecia. Maybe it can thicken up safe zones for some people that do have AA. That's probably it.
 

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A couple of notes before people go off the deep end:

1) The hairloss study used 100mg of Tocotrienols while the the study cited on Anabolic used almost 500mg of Tocopherols.
2) The study cited on Anabolic shows raised test and free test without effecting DHT. There are no studies that show it raises DHT. (Yes, I understand the relationship between test, free test, and DHT. If it raised DHT, every person on every bodybuilding forum would be mega dosing it.)
3) Many things that are good for your hair can cause hairloss if mega dosed or applied incorrectly. For instance, a small amount of IGF-1 on skin tissue can stimulate hair growth. A large amount of serum IGF-1 can potentially cause hairloss.
4) I have been taking 100mg of Tocotreinols/day for over 2 years. I can't tell if it has made a difference but since I am maintaining, it's not destroying my hair. I assume that Tocotreinols can be very effective for people that don't have androgenic alopecia. Maybe it can thicken up safe zones for some people that do have AA. That's probably it.


they didnt measure the dht in the study though...but as you already said..if its raise free t and has also anti estrogen/anti aromatase features you know whats up

and its know joke...i recommend everyone to do vitamin e for 2weeks...you ejaculate volume will skyrocket...and you know what that means
 

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they didnt measure the dht in the study though...but as you already said..if its raise free t and has also anti estrogen/anti aromatase features you know whats up

and its know joke...i recommend everyone to do vitamin e for 2weeks...you ejaculate volume will skyrocket...and you know what that means

Yep. I've noticed that. Felt better mentally, HARD erections... and hair thinning rapidly. It's such a sick f*****g joke that everything that makes us more manly and healthier is deadly for our hair. f*** male pattern baldness, what a joke.
 

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Yep. I've noticed that. Felt better mentally, HARD erections... and hair thinning rapidly. It's such a sick f*****g joke that everything that makes us more manly and healthier is deadly for our hair. f*** male pattern baldness, what a joke.

if i didnt had the hairloss gene i would blast vitamin e allday...it makes nice skin...gives you very nice erections (you horny af too), big loads, good mood and call me crazy but i think it also has a positive effect on your athletic perfomance
 

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3819075/

Abstract : Studies have shown an association between oxidative stress and alopecia. Patients with alopecia generally exhibit lower levels of antioxidants in their scalp area as well as a higher lipid peroxidation index. Tocotrienols belong to the vitamin E family and are known to be potent antioxidants. Hence, a study was conducted to investigate the effect of tocotrienol supplementation on hair growth in volunteers suffering from hair loss. Twenty one volunteers were randomly assigned to orally receive 100 mg of mixed tocotrienols daily while 17 volunteers were assigned to receive placebo capsule orally. The volunteers were monitored for the number of hairs in a pre-determined scalp area as well as the weight of 20 strands of 1 cm length hair clippings at 0 (before supplementation), 4 and 8 months. The number of hairs of the volunteers in the tocotrienol supplementation group increased significantly as compared to the placebo group, with the former recording a 34.5% increase at the end of the 8-month supplementation as compared to a 0.1% decrease for the latter. Nevertheless, the cumulative weight of 20 strands of hair clippings did not differ much from the baseline for both supplementation groups at the end of the study period. In conclusion, this trial demonstrated that supplementation with tocotrienol capsules increases hair number in volunteers suffering from hair loss as compared to the placebo group. This observed effect was most likely to be due to the antioxidant activity of tocotrienols that helped to reduce lipid peroxidation and oxidative stress in the scalp, which are reported to be associated with alopecia.

Originally found this on Reddit. TLDR: Vitamin E supplementation seems to be beneficial for hair.
One thing interesting is normal hairdensity is 2,200 hair strands per square inch. Hairs can then be thin, medium, thick. So in this study hair strands increased. But thickness of individual strands didn’t. Hmm, still sounds like a Win.
 

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some supplements that help testo/libido are pro hairs (nettle, fenugreek, DIM, . etc). So don't take those studies too seriously. I never had the libido I have to day(thanks to pregnenolone/ZMA combo). DHT level? Really guys it's follicle sensitiy which is the problem. When I had low dht level I had a nightmarish shedding and today my dht level skyrocketed and my hairloss is stable.. that's the mystery of male pattern baldness.
 

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some supplements that help testo/libido are pro hairs (nettle, fenugreek, DIM, . etc). So don't take those studies too seriously. I never had the libido I have to day(thanks to pregnenolone/ZMA combo). DHT level? Really guys it's follicle sensitiy which is the problem. When I had low dht level I had a nightmarish shedding and today my dht level skyrocketed and my hairloss is stable.. that's the mystery of male pattern baldness.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6816576
"It was also demonstrated that basal plasma testosterone and F.T.I. were increased in normal male subjects following oral vitamin E administration and the responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG was significantly higher during vitamin E administration than before administration"
given that (vitamin E works for libido cause raise T), you make (sad face) sense
 

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some supplements that help testo/libido are pro hairs (nettle, fenugreek, DIM, . etc). So don't take those studies too seriously. I never had the libido I have to day(thanks to pregnenolone/ZMA combo). DHT level? Really guys it's follicle sensitiy which is the problem. When I had low dht level I had a nightmarish shedding and today my dht level skyrocketed and my hairloss is stable.. that's the mystery of male pattern baldness.
so finasteride would work on follicle sensitivity and dht suppression is just a collateral damage?
 

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so finasteride would work on follicle sensitivity and dht suppression is just a collateral damage?
It is a big puzzle. when you see there are unlimited kinds of hairloss patterns you can imagine how hard it is to find the truth. Why some people have great regrowth with "peanut" routine while guys with a never ending routine are barely maintaining ?
Hence why hair cloning is the most probable cure.
I have read an interesting article about fina/duta it may work on different levels. can't find it anymore or was it an analysis of a member? Can't remember.
 

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Vitamin E increases testosterone. I have supplemented with all these supplements & have them at home. For me I didn’t notice any effect. The problem we are really talking about is male pattern baldness. Men have 10 times or so the percentage of testosterone in their blood stream already. And it’s safe to say 10 times approximate DHT levels. Hence, if you believe DHT is main culprit; and I believe there are other lesser factors the problem foremost should be to reduce DHT levels.
I believe the follicles are ready to grow, but not until DHT levels are significantly reduced.
For a man who has facial/body hair it is quite easy to observe if one is making any progress.
Now we have Finasteride, Duasteride, different herbs. But to get serious Duasteride is strongest. Now since we now have topical Duasteride, one can use it with more confidence. Others may speak on other DHT blockers.
In addition with proliferation of peptides now available we can supplement there also.
SARMS S-4 is quite interesting.
This is a hard battle, because one has to change naturally occurring levels. Doctors don’t want to drastically reduce levels just for cosmetic reasons. I see some progress, but still long ways to go.
 

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The study used 50mg of HealthyOrigins SupraBio. If you study it further it’s red palm oil. I use red palm oil when popping own popcorn. Either way noticed no difference.
 

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some supplements that help testo/libido are pro hairs (nettle, fenugreek, DIM, . etc). So don't take those studies too seriously. I never had the libido I have to day(thanks to pregnenolone/ZMA combo). DHT level? Really guys it's follicle sensitiy which is the problem. When I had low dht level I had a nightmarish shedding and today my dht level skyrocketed and my hairloss is stable.. that's the mystery of male pattern baldness.

I got crazy libido on saw palmetto that has nettle and pumpkin oil in it.
It's called Prost Force by prairie naturals. I've been on it for 6 months. The biggest libido boost was the first 3 months then normalized. But still there.
 

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The study used 50mg of HealthyOrigins SupraBio. If you study it further it’s red palm oil. I use red palm oil when popping own popcorn. Either way noticed no difference.
That's sh*t, it's probably Hydrogenated. Stay away if it is.
 
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