Western Women Are Destroying Western Civilisation

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If womens sexual preferences are liberated and unchecked they destroy civilisations. If women are allowed to choose, harems will form, if women are allowed a voice in matters that pertain to the safety of a nation then that nation will collapse.

Women do not on an instinctual level care very much about her tribe, nation or civilisation. It's in their nature not to do so.
Women are biological creatures like all others, and they seek to maximise their chances of having viable offspring.
This ~50 years of experiment of womens liberation and political enfranchisement has been a total disaster for the West.
The damage done by the last 50 years are likely to be beyond the point of no return. The only solution would be to return to a more patriarchal society. Which isn't going to happen.

Women are bad at being loyal to their "tribe", and history has shown this again and again. The reason is because it's not in their nature to do so. All throughout history women have seeked out men who are stronger, more dominant and of higher genetic quality even if the men are on opposing sides in war.
Picture shows a war bride being punished for their betrayal to their people by dating a nazi occupant of her country.
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Now not only are women not punished for inviting alien and unassimilable armies of men into the West. They then vote for parties that force the entire society to have it's national wealth redistributed to this army of aggresive and hostile men.
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And women who are in power even openly celebrate the destruction that they bring upon their people. And taunt those who seek to retain their culture and civilisation from being teared down.

"Our society will change. Our city will change radically. I hold that in 20, 30 there will no longer be (German) majorities in our city. This is what we will have in the future. And I want to make it clear, especially towards those right wingers: This is a good thing!" - Stefanie Von Berg, German politican.

As our society become ever more dangerous because of people like Stefanie Von Berg. The primary responsibility for protection will belong to men. Women will only have as much freedom as their men are willing or capable of guaranteeing them.

Women have been given the right to vote and in a democratic society they vote their biological imperative. Research has shown that that throughout history 80% of women have managed to reproduce, on the other hand only 40% of men did. That means a few top men had access to 80% of women while the bottom 60% had no mating prospects. Women don't mind sharing a top man with multiple of other women.

Many socities including the West long ago devised a simple plan to stop the infighting that occurs because a large majority of men in the society don't have sexual access to women. The basis of Western society was to keep one wife per man, so that every man has a chance of reproduction. This is to make the men reproduce and have a stake in societies health and security. But this like other cultural arrangements that held the West together for centuries is breaking down. No Western countries are even at the replacement levels in their birth rates.
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This is the fault of the loosening of sexual morality and dating habits of young women, the 80/20 rule in action. (80% of women are attracted to 20% of men.)
This destroys the making of monogamous couples, then in turn the making of families, and finally the children who will be the future of any given country.

Women seek out aggresive men both subconsciously and consciously. This has been ground into womens brains after human evolution. That means literal murderers, gang members, drug dealers etc. are always going to be more attractive to women than hardworking honest beta providers. They always have been, and always will be. This of course reduces the motivation for the majority of men to be hardworking honest contributors to society.
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The feminisation of men in the West adhering to the repetitive and decades long diatribe, that vilifies anything and all things masculine, are no longer attractive for women. Especially for women in their prime fertile years. When young women tell you the truth they are always attracted to the bad boys, not the NiceGuyswhich is why it's a literal meme to be a nice guy. It's so much a part of women psyche to want the bad boy that it's wrapped up in their DNA. More than 87% of women have an orgasm during rape. That's a hardwired response to rape in a subconscious or primal level. One of the most common sexual fantasy of women is the fantasy of being raped or being forced into submission.

The half century long experiment of women's liberation and political enfranchisement has ended in disaster for the West. Since women have been given the right to vote the entire centre of politics, and thus western society, has shifted more to the left. Women have also used their political enfranchisement to further the cause of Women's Liberation. Liberation socially, liberation financially, liberation from family, liberation from motherhood, liberation from religous dogma, and finally sexual liberation most importantly. Once women where given the equal say in the sphere of politics, it's only a matter of time until our civilisation collapses.

Multiple of studies on this subject have all come to the same conclusion: as women become more "emancipated", the decline of the family is further accelerated. As the family disintegrates, and women move politically further and further to the left in their voting, many begin to use the government as a surrogate husband and provider. Women are then even more liberated from their traditional roles within family and society at large.

One examplie of studies of civilisation decline is written by J.D. Unwin in his book "Sex and Culture (1934). The main driver for the rise of a civilisation is the degree of chastity of the said civilisations women. He found a positive correlation between the cultural achievment of a people and the sexual restraint they observed.
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Unwin’s impetus for the project was to test the Freudian theory that civilizational progress was the product of repressed sexuality. This theory of “sublimated sexuality” states that natural impulses and desires require energy to fulfill, and that this energy—though finite—is fungible.

Unwin divided the collective energy of human beings into two categories, “expansive” and “productive.” Activities like exploring territory, conquest, colonization, and commerce were deemed expansive. Productive activities designated an advancement within society or a societal flourishing, such as the development of algebra or the power to harness electricity. Thus, the sexual energy of human beings could be re-directed towards other aspects of civilizational advancement, such as technological progress, art, architecture, or conquering other peoples.
After a careful evaluation a variety of civilizations—including the Romans, Greeks, Sumerians, Moors, Babylonians, and Anglo-Saxons—a clear pattern emerged for Unwin: a perfect correlation between sexual fidelity and civilizational flourishing.* Unwin found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilizational ends, validating Freudian sublimation on a societal level. Unwin remarks:

The evidence is that in the past a class has risen to a position of political dominance because of its great energy and that at the period of its rising, its sexual regulations have always been strict. It has retained its energy and dominated the society so long as its sexual regulations have demanded both pre-nuptial and post-nuptial continence. … I know of no exceptions to these rules.

But what exactly were those strict sexual attitudes and regulations that contributed to societal flourishing? The answer: heterosexual monogamy.
Source: https://ethikapolitika.org/2014/08/19/civilizations-sex/


The point of Unwin's study was to test the Freudian theory civilisational progress was the product of repressed sexuality. He found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilisational ends.
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For Unwin the fabric of society was primarily sexual and heterosexual monogamy was the optimal arrangement for the planning, building, protecting, and nurturing of the family. If enough heterosexual partners made a monogamous commitment civilisational energy was directed toward promoting the finest societal foundation possible. Without exception each civilisation he studied allowed its success to alter its moral code. After a nation becomes increasingly liberal, with regards to it's sexual morality it loses it's cohesion, it's impetus, and it's purpose. From a chaste moral code, society gains what he called expansive energy and this energy allowed these cultures to expand into weaker cultures.

If you compare the modern Western world with the Islamic one you can see exactly the results that Unwin theory predicted in 1934.
By allowing women to f*** freely the West has entered a matriarchy that disincentivizes young men. Islam on the other hand keeps their women chaste and their expansive energy as Unwin's theory predicts is manifested in what we're oberserving today: the Islamic culture is the one who's expanding into the West, and it was only recently that the West was able to dominate all other cultures on the planet. Ultimately each civilisation became less cohesive, less aggressive, and less resolute. Civilisations in this liminal phase then collapsed from either:
1. An internal anarchic revolution.
2. Conquest by invaders with greater social energy.
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Unwin also noted that there was no case in any of the studies he'd made in which a culture managed to restrict the sexual freedom of women once they'd been loosened. A feminist society and future is an oxymoron, it's unsustainable in the long run.
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Based on just recent history a civilisation that embraces feminist values will cease to exist in a very short time. This is why no time in history a feminist civilisation has existed other than in very short spans in the end of great empires.

The signs of decline in the West are already easily observable. While many countries are sliding into social decline, the canary in the coal mine is the self described humanitarian superpower that pursues a feminist foregin policy.
When looking at Sweden one of the most gender equal countries on earth and while they've become the rape capital of Europe they're flushing their culture and country down the toilet, and pressing forward in their civilisational suicide at accelerating pace. The total and complete feminisation of Sweden and its men have allowed their women to invite their country's own destruction through the importation of millions of assimilated and aggressive people from completely alien cultures.
And they await their doom with smiles of tolerance and passivity, calm as Hindu cows.
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According to Unwin's model this process is irreversible, and the only way to do so would be to restrict the sexual freedom of Western women, and move back to a patriarchal society. Which is impossible.
So instead of having it all, Western women risk losing everything. What are liberal feminist going to do when faced with aggressive gangs of migrants bent on theft and sexual violence? I don't think wearing their stupid pussy hats is going to work.
womens-march-pink-pussy-hats-jan-21-2017-ftr.jpg

The violence now being directed at Western women in their own countries is undeniable proof of the breakdown of the leftist utopian ideals of society. The millions of migrants that have already arrived, and the millions on their way already understand that the West is a toothless civilisation ripe for plunder.
While western women might be the ones advocating, whether knowingly or not, for the destruction of the west via misplaced compassion, turbo emotionalism and niceism it's also the fault of Western cucks by giving them the choice and allowing their genders predilections to dictate what our civilisation's values, priorities, and ultimately what our future should and will be.
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Our feminised society hasn't built an equality rainbow that will usher the West into a nirvana of peace and security based on mutual respect and tolerance. No, it has succeeded in paving the way for the takeover and Islamification of the West.
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Ironically, it'll be the feminine tendencies and policies that rule our society, that will bring down the gender inclusive nations of the West and replace them with the tribalism of Africa and Middle East and the hyper masculinity of Islam. You can have a feminised society, but it won't survive Islam.

And here's the final red pill of this post: Western men have given Western women freedom of will and choice in their own society. And Western women are now choosing who will take it away from them.
 

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. More than 87% of women have an orgasm during rape. That's a hardwired response to rape in a subconscious or primal level.
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This is the most factually ignorant thing I ever saw written on HairLossTalk.com and the least responsible.

It's not true...go study female sexual biology and stop pursuing MGTOW hate sites, they are poisoning your brain to a really fanatical degree if you really believe what you just wrote about rape.

I'm not really addressing anything else in the post because to be honest I skimmed it came to this and I was shocked and really saddened you would believe such a thing.
 

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Patrick, I think there's a kernel of truth to your post, but ultimately I reject your conclusions and your reasoning. They don't follow as well as you imply due to issues of bias and confounding factors, for example:
Picture shows a war bride being punished for their betrayal to their people by dating a nazi occupant of her country.
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You point to French women having relationships with Nazi occupiers in the period 1940-1944 as an example, but:

1) It wasn't just French women who betrayed France. French men did too, in fact France had an entire government of traitors under Petain;
2) It was French men who ran the country and were thus most responsible for the Nazis so easily taking over France;
3) France was hardly more feminist than other countries, it was only in 1945 that French women got the vote;
4) France was run by men, punished French women for bad behavior during WWII, didn't give women the vote until very late ... and in spite of all that it's been a very mediocre century for France. Their place in the world today is less than it was ~100 years ago, they have not produced as much art, science, and commerce as the anglo-saxons, the Germans, the Russians, the East Asians, etc. As we speak the country of France is in mediocre shape.
5) You ignored the involvement of French women in the resistance and of women opposing the nazis in general. Women played an important role in the second world war, they helped with manufacturing in the USA where a lot of men were in Europe and the pacific, similarly in the Soviet Union where some even worked as snipers in the red army.
 

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This is the most factually ignorant thing I ever saw written on HairLossTalk.com and the least responsible.

It's not true...go study female sexual biology and stop pursuing MGTOW hate sites, they are poisoning your brain to a really fanatical degree if you really believe what you just wrote about rape.

I'm not really addressing anything else in the post because to be honest I skimmed it came to this and I was shocked and really saddened you would believe such a thing.
I'm disappointed that you skim through the thread just looking for something to be outraged at. I will admit I read that statistic somewhere and it was so ridiculous that it stuck to my head and I put it in the thread. In hindsight it was a mistake because it distracts from my actual point, evidently.
BOSTON - A new study to be published in next month's Journal of Clinical Psychiatry is causing controversy in the psychiatric community for some of its unexpected findings. The study, titled "Shame and Guilt in the Aftermath of Sexual Attack", verifies much of what we know about the mental health of rape victims. However, one observation in particular is raising eyebrows. After analyzing the anonymous transcripts of over 5,000 post-rape counseling sessions, the authors point out that almost all female rape victims experience orgasm during the attack.



Asked for comment, Dr. Herschel Liebowitz, one of the authors of the study, said, "Millions of years of evolution has hard-wired women to be attracted to strong, dominant, and aggressive men. Unfortunately, rapists exhibit an extreme form of these characteristics, even if only temporarily, and this causes an unexpected and involuntary physiological response in the victim."



Researchers focused on the psychiatric impact of this involuntary response. "Rape victims in general tend to experience an overwhelming sense of shame and guilt", noted Dr. Liebowitz. "This study finds that the guilt is not a result of the attack necessarily, but rather her own response to the attack. Intellectually, she is disgusted at being violated by an anonymous attacker. But physically, her body seems to have welcomed the attack in the form of sexual climax or orgasm. We believe this contradiction in feelings is the primary source of their shame and guilt."
Are you denying that women are attracted to masculine dominant Chads? I even recall the females on this forum discussing how they like to be dominated in bed with choking, hair pulling etc. It's natural for women to be submissive, and that was my point. I would appreciate if you actually read my post, that way I don't have to explain the same stuff twice.
Patrick, I think there's a kernel of truth to your post, but ultimately I reject your conclusions and your reasoning. They don't follow as well as you imply due to issues of bias and confounding factors, for example:

You point to French women having relationships with Nazi occupiers in the period 1940-1944 as an example, but:

1) It wasn't just French women who betrayed France. French men did too, in fact France had an entire government of traitors under Petain;
2) It was French men who ran the country and were thus most responsible for the Nazis so easily taking over France;
3) France was hardly more feminist than other countries, it was only in 1945 that French women got the vote;
4) France was run by men, punished French women for bad behavior during WWII, didn't give women the vote until very late ... and in spite of all that it's been a very mediocre century for France. Their place in the world today is less than it was ~100 years ago, they have not produced as much art, science, and commerce as the anglo-saxons, the Germans, the Russians, the East Asians, etc. As we speak the country of France is in mediocre shape.
5) You ignored the involvement of French women in the resistance and of women opposing the nazis in general. Women played an important role in the second world war, they helped with manufacturing in the USA where a lot of men were in Europe and the pacific, similarly in the Soviet Union where some even worked as snipers in the red army.
I agree that the post has some confounding factors. I wanted to make it better, but I ran out of time, motivation, and decided to just post it and go to the gym.

On the French women thing, you are obviously correct and I appreciate the history lesson. But my intention wasn't to highlight that just the French women betrayed their country in WW2. It was just simply the first thing I could think of when women betrayed their country and were visibly punished for it in a fitting way for a picture. I didn't even mention French women in the post, I just posted the picture. As I said women have betrayed their country many times throughout history by going with the dominant, stronger and males of higher genetic quality from the opposing side, which was all I wanted to convey.

On the subject of gym, I've been gymceling alot the past months and I just noticed that I have gotten stretch marks on my f*****g back. The gymcels didn't warn me about this. What the f*** do I do now??
 

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If womens sexual preferences are liberated and unchecked they destroy civilisations. If women are allowed to choose, harems will form, if women are allowed a voice in matters that pertain to the safety of a nation then that nation will collapse.

Women do not on an instinctual level care very much about her tribe, nation or civilisation. It's in their nature not to do so.
Women are biological creatures like all others, and they seek to maximise their chances of having viable offspring.
This ~50 years of experiment of womens liberation and political enfranchisement has been a total disaster for the West.
The damage done by the last 50 years are likely to be beyond the point of no return. The only solution would be to return to a more patriarchal society. Which isn't going to happen.

Women are bad at being loyal to their "tribe", and history has shown this again and again. The reason is because it's not in their nature to do so. All throughout history women have seeked out men who are stronger, more dominant and of higher genetic quality even if the men are on opposing sides in war.
Picture shows a war bride being punished for their betrayal to their people by dating a nazi occupant of her country.
View attachment 62351

Now not only are women not punished for inviting alien and unassimilable armies of men into the West. They then vote for parties that force the entire society to have it's national wealth redistributed to this army of aggresive and hostile men.
View attachment 62352
And women who are in power even openly celebrate the destruction that they bring upon their people. And taunt those who seek to retain their culture and civilisation from being teared down.

"Our society will change. Our city will change radically. I hold that in 20, 30 there will no longer be (German) majorities in our city. This is what we will have in the future. And I want to make it clear, especially towards those right wingers: This is a good thing!" - Stefanie Von Berg, German politican.

As our society become ever more dangerous because of people like Stefanie Von Berg. The primary responsibility for protection will belong to men. Women will only have as much freedom as their men are willing or capable of guaranteeing them.

Women have been given the right to vote and in a democratic society they vote their biological imperative. Research has shown that that throughout history 80% of women have managed to reproduce, on the other hand only 40% of men did. That means a few top men had access to 80% of women while the bottom 60% had no mating prospects. Women don't mind sharing a top man with multiple of other women.

Many socities including the West long ago devised a simple plan to stop the infighting that occurs because a large majority of men in the society don't have sexual access to women. The basis of Western society was to keep one wife per man, so that every man has a chance of reproduction. This is to make the men reproduce and have a stake in societies health and security. But this like other cultural arrangements that held the West together for centuries is breaking down. No Western countries are even at the replacement levels in their birth rates.
View attachment 62353
This is the fault of the loosening of sexual morality and dating habits of young women, the 80/20 rule in action. (80% of women are attracted to 20% of men.)
This destroys the making of monogamous couples, then in turn the making of families, and finally the children who will be the future of any given country.

Women seek out aggresive men both subconsciously and consciously. This has been ground into womens brains after human evolution. That means literal murderers, gang members, drug dealers etc. are always going to be more attractive to women than hardworking honest beta providers. They always have been, and always will be. This of course reduces the motivation for the majority of men to be hardworking honest contributors to society.
View attachment 62354
The feminisation of men in the West adhering to the repetitive and decades long diatribe, that vilifies anything and all things masculine, are no longer attractive for women. Especially for women in their prime fertile years. When young women tell you the truth they are always attracted to the bad boys, not the NiceGuyswhich is why it's a literal meme to be a nice guy. It's so much a part of women psyche to want the bad boy that it's wrapped up in their DNA. More than 87% of women have an orgasm during rape. That's a hardwired response to rape in a subconscious or primal level. One of the most common sexual fantasy of women is the fantasy of being raped or being forced into submission.

The half century long experiment of women's liberation and political enfranchisement has ended in disaster for the West. Since women have been given the right to vote the entire centre of politics, and thus western society, has shifted more to the left. Women have also used their political enfranchisement to further the cause of Women's Liberation. Liberation socially, liberation financially, liberation from family, liberation from motherhood, liberation from religous dogma, and finally sexual liberation most importantly. Once women where given the equal say in the sphere of politics, it's only a matter of time until our civilisation collapses.

Multiple of studies on this subject have all come to the same conclusion: as women become more "emancipated", the decline of the family is further accelerated. As the family disintegrates, and women move politically further and further to the left in their voting, many begin to use the government as a surrogate husband and provider. Women are then even more liberated from their traditional roles within family and society at large.

One examplie of studies of civilisation decline is written by J.D. Unwin in his book "Sex and Culture (1934). The main driver for the rise of a civilisation is the degree of chastity of the said civilisations women. He found a positive correlation between the cultural achievment of a people and the sexual restraint they observed.
View attachment 62355
Unwin’s impetus for the project was to test the Freudian theory that civilizational progress was the product of repressed sexuality. This theory of “sublimated sexuality” states that natural impulses and desires require energy to fulfill, and that this energy—though finite—is fungible.

Unwin divided the collective energy of human beings into two categories, “expansive” and “productive.” Activities like exploring territory, conquest, colonization, and commerce were deemed expansive. Productive activities designated an advancement within society or a societal flourishing, such as the development of algebra or the power to harness electricity. Thus, the sexual energy of human beings could be re-directed towards other aspects of civilizational advancement, such as technological progress, art, architecture, or conquering other peoples.
After a careful evaluation a variety of civilizations—including the Romans, Greeks, Sumerians, Moors, Babylonians, and Anglo-Saxons—a clear pattern emerged for Unwin: a perfect correlation between sexual fidelity and civilizational flourishing.* Unwin found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilizational ends, validating Freudian sublimation on a societal level. Unwin remarks:

The evidence is that in the past a class has risen to a position of political dominance because of its great energy and that at the period of its rising, its sexual regulations have always been strict. It has retained its energy and dominated the society so long as its sexual regulations have demanded both pre-nuptial and post-nuptial continence. … I know of no exceptions to these rules.

But what exactly were those strict sexual attitudes and regulations that contributed to societal flourishing? The answer: heterosexual monogamy.
Source: https://ethikapolitika.org/2014/08/19/civilizations-sex/


The point of Unwin's study was to test the Freudian theory civilisational progress was the product of repressed sexuality. He found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilisational ends.
View attachment 62356
For Unwin the fabric of society was primarily sexual and heterosexual monogamy was the optimal arrangement for the planning, building, protecting, and nurturing of the family. If enough heterosexual partners made a monogamous commitment civilisational energy was directed toward promoting the finest societal foundation possible. Without exception each civilisation he studied allowed its success to alter its moral code. After a nation becomes increasingly liberal, with regards to it's sexual morality it loses it's cohesion, it's impetus, and it's purpose. From a chaste moral code, society gains what he called expansive energy and this energy allowed these cultures to expand into weaker cultures.

If you compare the modern Western world with the Islamic one you can see exactly the results that Unwin theory predicted in 1934.
By allowing women to f*** freely the West has entered a matriarchy that disincentivizes young men. Islam on the other hand keeps their women chaste and their expansive energy as Unwin's theory predicts is manifested in what we're oberserving today: the Islamic culture is the one who's expanding into the West, and it was only recently that the West was able to dominate all other cultures on the planet. Ultimately each civilisation became less cohesive, less aggressive, and less resolute. Civilisations in this liminal phase then collapsed from either:
1. An internal anarchic revolution.
2. Conquest by invaders with greater social energy.
View attachment 62357

Unwin also noted that there was no case in any of the studies he'd made in which a culture managed to restrict the sexual freedom of women once they'd been loosened. A feminist society and future is an oxymoron, it's unsustainable in the long run.
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Based on just recent history a civilisation that embraces feminist values will cease to exist in a very short time. This is why no time in history a feminist civilisation has existed other than in very short spans in the end of great empires.

The signs of decline in the West are already easily observable. While many countries are sliding into social decline, the canary in the coal mine is the self described humanitarian superpower that pursues a feminist foregin policy.
When looking at Sweden one of the most gender equal countries on earth and while they've become the rape capital of Europe they're flushing their culture and country down the toilet, and pressing forward in their civilisational suicide at accelerating pace. The total and complete feminisation of Sweden and its men have allowed their women to invite their country's own destruction through the importation of millions of assimilated and aggressive people from completely alien cultures.
And they await their doom with smiles of tolerance and passivity, calm as Hindu cows.
View attachment 62359

According to Unwin's model this process is irreversible, and the only way to do so would be to restrict the sexual freedom of Western women, and move back to a patriarchal society. Which is impossible.
So instead of having it all, Western women risk losing everything. What are liberal feminist going to do when faced with aggressive gangs of migrants bent on theft and sexual violence? I don't think wearing their stupid pussy hats is going to work.
View attachment 62360
The violence now being directed at Western women in their own countries is undeniable proof of the breakdown of the leftist utopian ideals of society. The millions of migrants that have already arrived, and the millions on their way already understand that the West is a toothless civilisation ripe for plunder.
While western women might be the ones advocating, whether knowingly or not, for the destruction of the west via misplaced compassion, turbo emotionalism and niceism it's also the fault of Western cucks by giving them the choice and allowing their genders predilections to dictate what our civilisation's values, priorities, and ultimately what our future should and will be.
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Our feminised society hasn't built an equality rainbow that will usher the West into a nirvana of peace and security based on mutual respect and tolerance. No, it has succeeded in paving the way for the takeover and Islamification of the West.
View attachment 62362
Ironically, it'll be the feminine tendencies and policies that rule our society, that will bring down the gender inclusive nations of the West and replace them with the tribalism of Africa and Middle East and the hyper masculinity of Islam. You can have a feminised society, but it won't survive Islam.

And here's the final red pill of this post: Western men have given Western women freedom of will and choice in their own society. And Western women are now choosing who will take it away from them.

As an inhabitant of Europe, I might say that there's fear. There's fear of the future. Fear of what is coming. Fear of what our Nations will become in the future, when our grandchildren will first breathe and walk this land. As for now, in none of the European countries there's a political, social or economic trend bent on preserving the miracle of the History of man which is our ancient civilization. All political factions are either interested in sectarian interests, or in the direct demise of our societies.

Now, there's the need of the reversal of this slippery slope. Europe will have to find a way back, or the future looks bleak. The migrations problem will only be solved when the Nations of Europe abandon the charters of human rights; this means that it won't probably be solved in the short term. In other words, Europe faces two major ways: deportation and removal, or acceptance. Both have extreme consequences on every level of civic and private life for every one of us. The former implies a civil war between Europeans and between minorities, the latter the beginning of a New Europe, which will be populated by an African-Arab majority and a native minority.

As for all major historical events, the majority of us doesn't see this one coming. Feminists, neoliberals, neofascists, neo-communists, central-liberists and ex-christian democrats, are all the faces of the same, multifaceted coin: they are all expressions of a lost Europe, which finds strength in sectarian interests rather than in common wealth. The trend must be reversed, in a way or the other: now. If it won't, the 21st century will be remembered as the century in which the Dark Ages returned in Europe.
 

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Beyond embarrassing.

Also things have not shifted to "the Left" since women got the vote. Taft-Hartley, decimation of labor unions, firing of the air traffic controllers, welfare reform, repeal of Glass Stegall, overall financialization of the economy, repeal of The Fairness Doctrine, military industrial complex, ownership society, proliferation of "right to work" laws, militarization of the police, Patriot Act, etc. College educated White women were a key demographic in electing Trump.

Young women like to have sex with hot alpha dudes, news at 11.
 
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Many complaints in this thread about women getting the vote. Would the OP or others support taking the vote away from women, if possible?
 

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I'm disappointed that you skim through the thread just looking for something to be outraged at. I will admit I read that statistic somewhere and it was so ridiculous that it stuck to my head and I put it in the thread. In hindsight it was a mistake because it distracts from my actual point, evidently.
BOSTON - A new study to be published in next month's Journal of Clinical Psychiatry is causing controversy in the psychiatric community for some of its unexpected findings. The study, titled "Shame and Guilt in the Aftermath of Sexual Attack", verifies much of what we know about the mental health of rape victims. However, one observation in particular is raising eyebrows. After analyzing the anonymous transcripts of over 5,000 post-rape counseling sessions, the authors point out that almost all female rape victims experience orgasm during the attack.



Asked for comment, Dr. Herschel Liebowitz, one of the authors of the study, said, "Millions of years of evolution has hard-wired women to be attracted to strong, dominant, and aggressive men. Unfortunately, rapists exhibit an extreme form of these characteristics, even if only temporarily, and this causes an unexpected and involuntary physiological response in the victim."



Researchers focused on the psychiatric impact of this involuntary response. "Rape victims in general tend to experience an overwhelming sense of shame and guilt", noted Dr. Liebowitz. "This study finds that the guilt is not a result of the attack necessarily, but rather her own response to the attack. Intellectually, she is disgusted at being violated by an anonymous attacker. But physically, her body seems to have welcomed the attack in the form of sexual climax or orgasm. We believe this contradiction in feelings is the primary source of their shame and guilt."
Are you denying that women are attracted to masculine dominant Chads? I even recall the females on this forum discussing how they like to be dominated in bed with choking, hair pulling etc. It's natural for women to be submissive, and that was my point. I would appreciate if you actually read my post, that way I don't have to explain the same stuff twice.

I agree that the post has some confounding factors. I wanted to make it better, but I ran out of time, motivation, and decided to just post it and go to the gym.

On the French women thing, you are obviously correct and I appreciate the history lesson. But my intention wasn't to highlight that just the French women betrayed their country in WW2. It was just simply the first thing I could think of when women betrayed their country and were visibly punished for it in a fitting way for a picture. I didn't even mention French women in the post, I just posted the picture. As I said women have betrayed their country many times throughout history by going with the dominant, stronger and males of higher genetic quality from the opposing side, which was all I wanted to convey.

On the subject of gym, I've been gymceling alot the past months and I just noticed that I have gotten stretch marks on my f*****g back. The gymcels didn't warn me about this. What the f*** do I do now??

1) It doesn't matter if some women orgasm during rape, that doesn't mean that they consented. A human being can orgasm without consent. For example, if you look at this wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
You will find pictures of prisoners of war being forced to masturbate. They might very well orgasm from that, but does that mean that they consented? No. Does it mean that they're attracted to the people giving the orders? No. H

You are also making the implication that rapists are somehow more masculine or something. Some of them might be, but others might just be big and fat, or have access to weapons or blackmail. Most rape is acquaintance rape, which implies that those men are good at picking their spots.

2) Women and men have betrayed their countries many times in history. Unless there's evidence presented that women are less loyal, no point is made.

3) No idea about stretch marks, sorry. It's never been an issue for me so I don't know anything about it.
 

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As an inhabitant of Europe, I might say that there's fear. There's fear of the future. Fear of what is coming. Fear of what our Nations will become in the future, when our grandchildren will first breathe and walk this land. As for now, in none of the European countries there's a political, social or economic trend bent on preserving the miracle of the History of man which is our ancient civilization. All political factions are either interested in sectarian interests, or in the direct demise of our societies.

Now, there's the need of the reversal of this slippery slope. Europe will have to find a way back, or the future looks bleak. The migrations problem will only be solved when the Nations of Europe abandon the charters of human rights; this means that it won't probably be solved in the short term. In other words, Europe faces two major ways: deportation and removal, or acceptance. Both have extreme consequences on every level of civic and private life for every one of us. The former implies a civil war between Europeans and between minorities, the latter the beginning of a New Europe, which will be populated by an African-Arab majority and a native minority.

As for all major historical events, the majority of us doesn't see this one coming. Feminists, neoliberals, neofascists, neo-communists, central-liberists and ex-christian democrats, are all the faces of the same, multifaceted coin: they are all expressions of a lost Europe, which finds strength in sectarian interests rather than in common wealth. The trend must be reversed, in a way or the other: now. If it won't, the 21st century will be remembered as the century in which the Dark Ages returned in Europe.


Europe created their own fate..

You reap what you sow.
 

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I'm disappointed that you skim through the thread just looking for something to be outraged at. I will admit I read that statistic somewhere and it was so ridiculous that it stuck to my head and I put it in the thread. In hindsight it was a mistake because it distracts from my actual point, evidently.
BOSTON - A new study to be published in next month's Journal of Clinical Psychiatry is causing controversy in the psychiatric community for some of its unexpected findings. The study, titled "Shame and Guilt in the Aftermath of Sexual Attack", verifies much of what we know about the mental health of rape victims. However, one observation in particular is raising eyebrows. After analyzing the anonymous transcripts of over 5,000 post-rape counseling sessions, the authors point out that almost all female rape victims experience orgasm during the attack.



Asked for comment, Dr. Herschel Liebowitz, one of the authors of the study, said, "Millions of years of evolution has hard-wired women to be attracted to strong, dominant, and aggressive men. Unfortunately, rapists exhibit an extreme form of these characteristics, even if only temporarily, and this causes an unexpected and involuntary physiological response in the victim."



Researchers focused on the psychiatric impact of this involuntary response. "Rape victims in general tend to experience an overwhelming sense of shame and guilt", noted Dr. Liebowitz. "This study finds that the guilt is not a result of the attack necessarily, but rather her own response to the attack. Intellectually, she is disgusted at being violated by an anonymous attacker. But physically, her body seems to have welcomed the attack in the form of sexual climax or orgasm. We believe this contradiction in feelings is the primary source of their shame and guilt."
Are you denying that women are attracted to masculine dominant Chads? I even recall the females on this forum discussing how they like to be dominated in bed with choking, hair pulling etc. It's natural for women to be submissive, and that was my point. I would appreciate if you actually read my post, that way I don't have to explain the same stuff twice.

I did not skim your post searching for something to be outraged about.
That claim about orgasm and rape would disgust most people--men included.
I know men are suspicious of women they don't know or date but they also have GF, daughters,sisters, cousins,moms etc who the idea of them being raped I am sure makes them sick.

Apparently there is no actual study and the Dr listed who did the study did not do it and he did not say the things that he is quoted as saying..
It's a fake study and a fake Dr...

I tried to find the study and I cannot find it other than on men sites who quote it.
This came up instead as explanation.

Other than MGTOWs, MRAs and a few websites, the study 'Shame and Guilt in the Aftermath of Sexual Attack' cannot be found. What's even MORE interesting is the alleged co-author, a Dr. Herschel Liebowitz, also does not exist. There is a 'Dr. Herschel LEIbowitz,' who did research in vision and passed away in 2011 at the age of 85, RIP.

Also, before this 'study' was about to be published, Dr. LEIbowitz retired 15 years ago.

if there turns out to be a real study--it's not something you can prove in a study..studies take volunteers--if you volunteer to be 'raped' you are not raped.

From a sex study on women and orgasm.
New research suggests that a simple measurement -- a "rule of thumb" -- might be the key to the pleasures of sexual intercourse. About 75 percent of all women never reach orgasm from intercourse alone -- that is without the extra help of sex toys, hands or tongue
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Reprod...orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289

Orgasm from penetration alone is suspected to be more about the distance of the clit to the vaginal entrance just FYI (side fact, nothing to do with rape).
 
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Women do tend to vote for bigger government (therefore, left-leaning), as the government act as their "fall back" husband for welfare and law-making that favours women (based on the notion they are discriminated against). The shift in the government taking the role of the surrogate husband in terms of providing resources has made a lot of men redundant who are "there or thereabouts" in terms of earning capability. Governments have always hated the family structure, which is a competing power to themselves. This is not unique to the west. Look at China and Russia as further examples.

To exacerbate the problem for men...the younger generations will struggle in future economies as they are burdened with boomer/Gen X debt that has piled up, along with automation that makes many jobs redundant. The idea that the government can in any sustainable way act as a surrogate husband is folly. It cannot be financially supported, and the idea that a family doesn't need a father is corrosive to society.

And yet, men are told to act in a neutered way - virtue signal, act weak and mealy-mouthed. It's anathema to what women find attractive. As Patrick points out, women really do NOT like the metrosexual, "right on" types. They abhor them. (Some posters here might want to take note of that). Women will say one thing, do another. When you get an "attaboy" from a woman for your virtue signals, you fall into the beta category by default. Compare such sychophantic behaviour to the alpha that walks in the room and does what he wants. The beta looks pathetic in comparison. The beta is simply used to shore up female ego on an "as and when basis". The "right on" male shows he is unassertive, inconfident and weak. Socially, being "right on" is akin to being a nullo, a eunuch. They have - by their own decision - completely emasculated themselves.
 

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If womens sexual preferences are liberated and unchecked they destroy civilisations. If women are allowed to choose, harems will form, if women are allowed a voice in matters that pertain to the safety of a nation then that nation will collapse.

Women do not on an instinctual level care very much about her tribe, nation or civilisation. It's in their nature not to do so.
Women are biological creatures like all others, and they seek to maximise their chances of having viable offspring.
This ~50 years of experiment of womens liberation and political enfranchisement has been a total disaster for the West.
The damage done by the last 50 years are likely to be beyond the point of no return. The only solution would be to return to a more patriarchal society. Which isn't going to happen.

Women are bad at being loyal to their "tribe", and history has shown this again and again. The reason is because it's not in their nature to do so. All throughout history women have seeked out men who are stronger, more dominant and of higher genetic quality even if the men are on opposing sides in war.
Picture shows a war bride being punished for their betrayal to their people by dating a nazi occupant of her country.
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Now not only are women not punished for inviting alien and unassimilable armies of men into the West. They then vote for parties that force the entire society to have it's national wealth redistributed to this army of aggresive and hostile men.
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And women who are in power even openly celebrate the destruction that they bring upon their people. And taunt those who seek to retain their culture and civilisation from being teared down.

"Our society will change. Our city will change radically. I hold that in 20, 30 there will no longer be (German) majorities in our city. This is what we will have in the future. And I want to make it clear, especially towards those right wingers: This is a good thing!" - Stefanie Von Berg, German politican.

As our society become ever more dangerous because of people like Stefanie Von Berg. The primary responsibility for protection will belong to men. Women will only have as much freedom as their men are willing or capable of guaranteeing them.

Women have been given the right to vote and in a democratic society they vote their biological imperative. Research has shown that that throughout history 80% of women have managed to reproduce, on the other hand only 40% of men did. That means a few top men had access to 80% of women while the bottom 60% had no mating prospects. Women don't mind sharing a top man with multiple of other women.

Many socities including the West long ago devised a simple plan to stop the infighting that occurs because a large majority of men in the society don't have sexual access to women. The basis of Western society was to keep one wife per man, so that every man has a chance of reproduction. This is to make the men reproduce and have a stake in societies health and security. But this like other cultural arrangements that held the West together for centuries is breaking down. No Western countries are even at the replacement levels in their birth rates.
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This is the fault of the loosening of sexual morality and dating habits of young women, the 80/20 rule in action. (80% of women are attracted to 20% of men.)
This destroys the making of monogamous couples, then in turn the making of families, and finally the children who will be the future of any given country.

Women seek out aggresive men both subconsciously and consciously. This has been ground into womens brains after human evolution. That means literal murderers, gang members, drug dealers etc. are always going to be more attractive to women than hardworking honest beta providers. They always have been, and always will be. This of course reduces the motivation for the majority of men to be hardworking honest contributors to society.
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The feminisation of men in the West adhering to the repetitive and decades long diatribe, that vilifies anything and all things masculine, are no longer attractive for women. Especially for women in their prime fertile years. When young women tell you the truth they are always attracted to the bad boys, not the NiceGuyswhich is why it's a literal meme to be a nice guy. It's so much a part of women psyche to want the bad boy that it's wrapped up in their DNA. More than 87% of women have an orgasm during rape. That's a hardwired response to rape in a subconscious or primal level. One of the most common sexual fantasy of women is the fantasy of being raped or being forced into submission.

The half century long experiment of women's liberation and political enfranchisement has ended in disaster for the West. Since women have been given the right to vote the entire centre of politics, and thus western society, has shifted more to the left. Women have also used their political enfranchisement to further the cause of Women's Liberation. Liberation socially, liberation financially, liberation from family, liberation from motherhood, liberation from religous dogma, and finally sexual liberation most importantly. Once women where given the equal say in the sphere of politics, it's only a matter of time until our civilisation collapses.

Multiple of studies on this subject have all come to the same conclusion: as women become more "emancipated", the decline of the family is further accelerated. As the family disintegrates, and women move politically further and further to the left in their voting, many begin to use the government as a surrogate husband and provider. Women are then even more liberated from their traditional roles within family and society at large.

One examplie of studies of civilisation decline is written by J.D. Unwin in his book "Sex and Culture (1934). The main driver for the rise of a civilisation is the degree of chastity of the said civilisations women. He found a positive correlation between the cultural achievment of a people and the sexual restraint they observed.
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Unwin’s impetus for the project was to test the Freudian theory that civilizational progress was the product of repressed sexuality. This theory of “sublimated sexuality” states that natural impulses and desires require energy to fulfill, and that this energy—though finite—is fungible.

Unwin divided the collective energy of human beings into two categories, “expansive” and “productive.” Activities like exploring territory, conquest, colonization, and commerce were deemed expansive. Productive activities designated an advancement within society or a societal flourishing, such as the development of algebra or the power to harness electricity. Thus, the sexual energy of human beings could be re-directed towards other aspects of civilizational advancement, such as technological progress, art, architecture, or conquering other peoples.
After a careful evaluation a variety of civilizations—including the Romans, Greeks, Sumerians, Moors, Babylonians, and Anglo-Saxons—a clear pattern emerged for Unwin: a perfect correlation between sexual fidelity and civilizational flourishing.* Unwin found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilizational ends, validating Freudian sublimation on a societal level. Unwin remarks:

The evidence is that in the past a class has risen to a position of political dominance because of its great energy and that at the period of its rising, its sexual regulations have always been strict. It has retained its energy and dominated the society so long as its sexual regulations have demanded both pre-nuptial and post-nuptial continence. … I know of no exceptions to these rules.

But what exactly were those strict sexual attitudes and regulations that contributed to societal flourishing? The answer: heterosexual monogamy.
Source: https://ethikapolitika.org/2014/08/19/civilizations-sex/


The point of Unwin's study was to test the Freudian theory civilisational progress was the product of repressed sexuality. He found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilisational ends.
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For Unwin the fabric of society was primarily sexual and heterosexual monogamy was the optimal arrangement for the planning, building, protecting, and nurturing of the family. If enough heterosexual partners made a monogamous commitment civilisational energy was directed toward promoting the finest societal foundation possible. Without exception each civilisation he studied allowed its success to alter its moral code. After a nation becomes increasingly liberal, with regards to it's sexual morality it loses it's cohesion, it's impetus, and it's purpose. From a chaste moral code, society gains what he called expansive energy and this energy allowed these cultures to expand into weaker cultures.

If you compare the modern Western world with the Islamic one you can see exactly the results that Unwin theory predicted in 1934.
By allowing women to f*** freely the West has entered a matriarchy that disincentivizes young men. Islam on the other hand keeps their women chaste and their expansive energy as Unwin's theory predicts is manifested in what we're oberserving today: the Islamic culture is the one who's expanding into the West, and it was only recently that the West was able to dominate all other cultures on the planet. Ultimately each civilisation became less cohesive, less aggressive, and less resolute. Civilisations in this liminal phase then collapsed from either:
1. An internal anarchic revolution.
2. Conquest by invaders with greater social energy.
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Unwin also noted that there was no case in any of the studies he'd made in which a culture managed to restrict the sexual freedom of women once they'd been loosened. A feminist society and future is an oxymoron, it's unsustainable in the long run.
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Based on just recent history a civilisation that embraces feminist values will cease to exist in a very short time. This is why no time in history a feminist civilisation has existed other than in very short spans in the end of great empires.

The signs of decline in the West are already easily observable. While many countries are sliding into social decline, the canary in the coal mine is the self described humanitarian superpower that pursues a feminist foregin policy.
When looking at Sweden one of the most gender equal countries on earth and while they've become the rape capital of Europe they're flushing their culture and country down the toilet, and pressing forward in their civilisational suicide at accelerating pace. The total and complete feminisation of Sweden and its men have allowed their women to invite their country's own destruction through the importation of millions of assimilated and aggressive people from completely alien cultures.
And they await their doom with smiles of tolerance and passivity, calm as Hindu cows.
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According to Unwin's model this process is irreversible, and the only way to do so would be to restrict the sexual freedom of Western women, and move back to a patriarchal society. Which is impossible.
So instead of having it all, Western women risk losing everything. What are liberal feminist going to do when faced with aggressive gangs of migrants bent on theft and sexual violence? I don't think wearing their stupid pussy hats is going to work.
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The violence now being directed at Western women in their own countries is undeniable proof of the breakdown of the leftist utopian ideals of society. The millions of migrants that have already arrived, and the millions on their way already understand that the West is a toothless civilisation ripe for plunder.
While western women might be the ones advocating, whether knowingly or not, for the destruction of the west via misplaced compassion, turbo emotionalism and niceism it's also the fault of Western cucks by giving them the choice and allowing their genders predilections to dictate what our civilisation's values, priorities, and ultimately what our future should and will be.
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Our feminised society hasn't built an equality rainbow that will usher the West into a nirvana of peace and security based on mutual respect and tolerance. No, it has succeeded in paving the way for the takeover and Islamification of the West.
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Ironically, it'll be the feminine tendencies and policies that rule our society, that will bring down the gender inclusive nations of the West and replace them with the tribalism of Africa and Middle East and the hyper masculinity of Islam. You can have a feminised society, but it won't survive Islam.

And here's the final red pill of this post: Western men have given Western women freedom of will and choice in their own society. And Western women are now choosing who will take it away from them.
I'm not going to be a dick and get offended by this post, but you're truly one of the most intelligent persons that i've ever seen. Great post.
 
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Did you know that the majority of white women in the latest US elections voted for Trump?
If men thought women could not be conservative, they would have never given them the vote in the 20th century.

2.

I don't know what it is like in Norway, but - in France and Italy - the neo fascist parties are led by women. Marine Le Pen, Giorgia Meloni. The new mayor of Rome is a woman (quite hot too) who comes from a 'web' party (they choose their nominees in a website) that opposes immigration and just moved refugees from a Roman camp.

3.

Do you really think women are not racist and that they really like migrants? I don't know one woman over here in Milan (where it is very difficult to go the center of the city and encounter an Italian person: everyone is from Pakistan, India, Maghreb, China) who would ever get engaged with a non-European person. If they really liked "exotic men" over local men, stay assured you would find out.

4.

I do agree excessive immigration is a big issue. But I really don't understand how women are to blame considering that the herald of the separation between the West and the South of the World is presently ... Theresa May!
 
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