What if finasteride is not equally distributed in 5mg proscar?

I_Hate_DHT

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what? :shock:
 
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I_Hate_DHT said:
what? :shock:

"The second problem, and maybe not as important as the first one, is that when you cut in pill into 4ths, you take the 4th part on the 4th day. So, the 4th part stays out of the packet for 4 days, which is not a good idea according to merck. I think max is 12-24 hours."

This paragraph is total bull from your derm As long as you keep the cut tablet in a closed case then you have nothing to worry about. Probably nothing to worry about if you don't either.

Does your derm take kickbacks from Merck to prescribe Propecia? You got played bro. I hate to see you wasting hundreds of dollars on Propecia. Read threads on here and get educated about Proscar being totally equivalent.
 

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usually medical doctors do what is best for the patient, which includes saving them money... hell thats how i got my proscar script it the first place, i didn't even ask, he suggested it because i was paying out of pocket anyways...
 

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Bryan said:
Ok, I'll bite: how would you do that on a mass-production basis?

That's tough to answer. I don't know why anyone would want to spend the time nor money to screw a pill up that bad! Though I bet in some third world countries that you could hire a whole bunch of people to do stuff for you for pretty cheap! I don't think anyone should be worried about Merck and such, but I can't help but be a bit nervous about the generic drugs that come from India. Nothing against India, I just don't know enough about it to ease my mind!
 

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now that is even more silly. you think it might be cheaper to hire a bunch of sweat shop workers to make pills individually rather than on mass with vats and machines? we are talking billions of pills here dude.
 

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i would think that it wouldn't matter if a proscar pill is unevenly distributed as long as you take each of the pieces 4 consecutive days. that way you are taking the whole 5mg within the 4 days.
 

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powersam said:
now that is even more silly. you think it might be cheaper to hire a bunch of sweat shop workers to make pills individually rather than on mass with vats and machines? we are talking billions of pills here dude.

Hey, all I'm saying is it's possible. People seemed to act like it wasn't. I'm not arguing what's cost-effective. :)
 

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Hey, all I'm saying is it's possible. People seemed to act like it wasn't. I'm not arguing what's cost-effective. :)

Well, I guess it's also possible that space aliens are secretly living among us, in preparation for a massive invasion of Earth! :)
 

bubka

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stop it now!!!

if the pill is unevenly distributed, then there is no way to manufacture the pill to be a constant 5mg

jesus god
 

I_Hate_DHT

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I_Hate_DHT said:
what? :shock:

"The second problem, and maybe not as important as the first one, is that when you cut in pill into 4ths, you take the 4th part on the 4th day. So, the 4th part stays out of the packet for 4 days, which is not a good idea according to merck. I think max is 12-24 hours."

This paragraph is total bull from your derm As long as you keep the cut tablet in a closed case then you have nothing to worry about. Probably nothing to worry about if you don't either.

Does your derm take kickbacks from Merck to prescribe Propecia? You got played bro. I hate to see you wasting hundreds of dollars on Propecia. Read threads on here and get educated about Proscar being totally equivalent.


I focused on the first problem, about the pill not being equally distributed and you suddenly focused in the second problem (less important) I was talking about, taking it out of context. Second, the paragraph is not from my derm, but from Merck. :)

And, Proscar was made to be taken in 1 dose, and in 1 pill (for BPH). It's not the best option, to cut a pill in 4 parts and take 1.25 finasteride.

And third, Avodart is not FDA approved for hairloss, and there is a reason for it. But it seems some people will go againt all docs and specialists recommendations.

You have male pattern baldness? Ok, then take 1 mg of Finasteride every day. Don't cut the pill and don't take Avodart that was not made for hairloss. Some people will do something totally different. Pretty scary.

Good luck.
 
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I_Hate_DHT said:
And third, Avodart is not FDA approved for hairloss, and there is a reason for it. But it seems some people will go againt all docs and specialists recommendations.

My doctor prescribed me Avodart. I get my Avodart from a US pharmacy. What were you saying? Oh that's right. You can just stop talking now. :D But maybe I should go AGAINST their recommendations and stop taking it now.
 

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yeah, "Proscar" is, and its taken for BPH... however, finasteride is taken for both male pattern baldness and BPH... which is optimal at ~1mg

so if i take ~1mg of finasteride, whether it is propeica, or cut proscar, its the same freaking thing!!! you are arguing something that has been done so 5 years ago at least...

the pill IS EVENLY distributed... Merck just says that because they have to, otherwise they would sell a lot less, its a public cooperation, they have to make profit? do you not understand their reasoning? it seems like you do not...

my doctor wrote me a script for proscar even BEFORE i read much about the splitting, because i had stupid reasonings like yours (mostly because i did not have to want to worry about it)
 

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the ONLY real difference from 1.25mg in proscar quarter pills to 1mg propecia pills is that propecia is much more expensive!
 

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I_Hate_DHT said:
I focused on the first problem, about the pill not being equally distributed and you suddenly focused in the second problem (less important) I was talking about, taking it out of context. Second, the paragraph is not from my derm, but from Merck. :)

Oh my gosh, I wonder why on earth Merck wouldn't want you to split Proscar tablets into four pieces!! It's a huge puzzle that I just can't figure out!! :wink:

As I've mentioned several times in the past, in the early stumptailed macaque testing of finasteride, the drug was actually given to the animals as a POWDER on a piece of fruit, so there is no reason why you couldn't split a pill into four smaller pills.

I_Hate_DHT said:
And, Proscar was made to be taken in 1 dose, and in 1 pill (for BPH). It's not the best option, to cut a pill in 4 parts and take 1.25 finasteride.

Can you think of any serious reason why it wouldn't be perfectly ok to do that? Something other than the fact that Merck loses money if you do it? :wink:

I_Hate_DHT said:
And third, Avodart is not FDA approved for hairloss, and there is a reason for it.

Yeah. It's because they'd have to spend countless millions of $$$ for FDA approval, with only a very slim chance of ever getting it back.

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Hahaha, Bryan. And people accuse ME of working for Merck when i tell them to get on finasteride!

"JayMan, you must work for Merck or something". Well, if I work for Merck, then why would I encourage people to buy generics or get on the cheaper Proscar? Yes I'm making Merck so much money by doing this

And I'm not even on finasteride.
 

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JayMan said:
I_Hate_DHT said:
And third, Avodart is not FDA approved for hairloss, and there is a reason for it. But it seems some people will go againt all docs and specialists recommendations.

My doctor prescribed me Avodart. I get my Avodart from a US pharmacy. What were you saying? Oh that's right. You can just stop talking now. :D But maybe I should go AGAINST their recommendations and stop taking it now.


1 doctor in 1000 recommends you Avodart for hairloss while the other 999 would prescribe you Propecia. :lol:

You should really review your health insurance. :p


Also, those suggesting that it's all about money... did you guys know Glaxo is a lot bigger company than Merck? All said... :wink:

Good luck guys.


And just curious and off-topic: How much time you spend in this forum every day JayMan?
 
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45 minutes to an hour i'd say

and you're wrong about only 1 in 1000 docs prescribing avodart if you ask them to. you are nuts and incorrect to boot.

and why do i need to review my health insurance? my health insurance is none of your business- just get back to popping your overpriced Propecia.
 

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this is one of those topics that just keeps on popping up. however most people once they are shown the simple and unarguable facts of the matter tend to let it go. i think it is time that you also simply accepted the unarguable facts of this matter and moved on.
 

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powersam said:
this is one of those topics that just keeps on popping up. however most people once they are shown the simple and unarguable facts of the matter tend to let it go. i think it is time that you also simply accepted the unarguable facts of this matter and moved on.
i love the 1 in 1000 stat, that was so awesome, relevant, and ontopic...

WTF does Glaxo being "bigger" than Merk have to do with anything?

obviously I_Hate_DHT, you spend enough time online reading about magical designer pills that are individualized for different dosages within...
 

I_Hate_DHT

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JayMan said:
you are nuts and incorrect to boot.

you are nuts too man, you are nuts too..

and bubka what are you talking about and where did you come from with that sentence? :shock: something personal because i asked you if you brush your hair in a special way?, you are totally wrong about that one. i don't spend time online searching about anything, just 5-10 mins a day in this forum to see what's going on.. and the stats are probably wrong, it's more like 1 in 10,000 prescribe Avodart while the rest prescribe Finas.

ahhh.. i won't keep this useless and stupid conversation going on... life is too short to argue with people I don't even know, and talking about useless and neverending topics like these ones.

Bye.
 
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