What if Latisse (bimataprost) Was Affordable?

[pegasus2]

You used topical min 4x daily? Did you see results?

Yes, I saw good results during that time. It worked better than twice a day, but it went systemic.

 

[trialAcc]

Yes, I saw good results during that time. It worked better than twice a day, but it went systemic.

Interesting, I didn't know min was dose dependent. Everyone always said the half life was 20~ hours or whatever so a single dose had the same outcome as two. Maybe I'll give a higher concentration a shot with 2x application.

 

[StayPositive]

That's what retin -a and microneedling is for. I have it all structured out.

Retin a and microneedling do not work on collagen loss mediated by pge2 /pge1 /pgf2a

 

[Dimitri001]

Retin a and microneedling do not work on collagen loss mediated by pge2 /pge1 /pgf2a

Is there anything that does?

 

[pegasus2]

Retin a and microneedling do not work on collagen loss mediated by pge2 /pge1 /pgf2a

Why not? They increase collagen production.

 

[StayPositive]

Why not? They increase collagen production.

I tried them for 1 year for collagen loss induced by oral minoxidil. It did not work for me. The only thing that worked was stopping minoxidil

 

[StayPositive]

Why not? They increase collagen production.

Minoxidil increases pge2/pge1/pgf2a through cox1 upregulation.

So, since aspirin inhibits cox1, in theory, aspirin cream (aspercreme) should works to counteract the collagen loss induced by minoxidil.

But it will not work for guys using pure pge2 powder.

Topical aspirin systemic absorption is very low (between 4% and 8%)

 

[pegasus2]

Minoxidil increases pge2/pge1/pgf2a through cox1 upregulation.

So, since aspirin inhibits cox1, in theory, aspirin cream (aspercreme) should works to counteract the collagen loss induced by minoxidil.

But it will not work for guys using pure pge2 powder.

That defeats the purpose. Collagen supplements and tretinoin always seemed to help me mitigate sides. I've heard the same from others too.

 

[StayPositive]

That defeats the purpose. Collagen supplements and tretinoin always seemed to help me mitigate sides. I've heard the same from others too.

What purpose?

Topical aspirin will not be systemically absorbed enough to counteract the effects of minoxidil on head hair

 

[Fontaine]

Yes, I saw good results during that time. It worked better than twice a day, but it went systemic.

What symptoms did you get with systemic absorption?

Past 2 days my heart rate has been really high, lowered the topical dose from 3.2ml daily to 2.8ml (also I've stopped licking my fingers after application which was probably a stupid idea) and it seems to be alright now

Why not? They increase collagen production.

Retin A and sunscreen is all you need

 

[pegasus2]

What purpose?

Topical aspirin will not be systemically absorbed enough to counteract the effects of minoxidil on head hair

If it's not going to reduced cox1 in the scalp significantly enough to reduce hair growth then it wouldn't reduce it enough in the facial skin either. So it's either pointless or self-defeating.

 

[BTW]

if it is as good as minoxidil then it's barely useful

 

[Dimitri001]

I tried them for 1 year for collagen loss induced by oral minoxidil. It did not work for me. The only thing that worked was stopping minoxidil

What kind of effect of the collagen loss did you see? So these effects are supposed to be temporary and reversed once you stop minoxidil?

 

[LouisSarkozy]

That defeats the purpose. Collagen supplements and tretinoin always seemed to help me mitigate sides. I've heard the same from others too.

pegasus since you're extremelly knowledgable have you found somethin ( other than retin a which doesn't work that good for me) able to counteract minoxidil skin sides? i'm back on 5ml a day and it's working but destroying my skin

 

[Norwoody]

Sounds like a waste unless you're only at NW1.5 and rich

 

[LouisSarkozy]

Sounds like a waste unless you're only at NW1.5 and rich

i got acess to unlimited amount of generic bimatoprost or latisse for free via my derm and it's useless as it's way weaker than minoxidil in my case and got skin sdes that can be worst ( pap)

 

[Norwoody]

pegasus since you're extremelly knowledgable have you found somethin ( other than retin a which doesn't work that good for me) able to counteract minoxidil skin sides? i'm back on 5ml a day and it's working but destroying my skin

bi-estro on the face, occasional needling on the face

 

[Norwoody]

i got acess to unlimited amount of generic bimatoprost or latisse for free via my derm and it's useless as it's way weaker than minoxidil in my case and got skin sdes that can be worst ( pap)

You're only on 5% once a day too, correct?

 

[LouisSarkozy]

bi-estro on the face, occasional needling on the face

thanks for your answer i 'm already needling my face weekly and got a nuclear skincare regimen but was interested in topical oestrogen but i'm kinda scared of feminizing my facial structure. do you notice any sides from oestrogen?

i'm on 5% 2.5 ml twice a day it's the only dosage that stop my frontal recession

 

[Norwoody]

thanks for your answer i 'm already needling my face weekly and got a nuclear skincare regimen but was interested in topical oestrogen but i'm kinda scared of feminizing my facial structure. do you notice any sides from oestrogen?

i'm on 5% 2.5 ml twice a day it's the only dosage that stop my frontal recession

I'm using bi-estro, not estrogel, and I've also used it on my scalp without any sides. It's pretty weak IMO but strong enough to make skin smoother.