What it mean when young women/girls look at you when you are bald.

[shookwun]

Women when genuinely interested will give subtle sign of being interested. Most will not verbally upfront tell you of their desire but general gibe signs and notions that men pick up on.

As for the piece discussion. I'm slow starting to see it as a great option for those who want a lower and thicker head of hair. Something a transplant cannot give.

 

[Wolf Pack]

I think ugly guys can get into relationships with pretty girls. But they can't get one night stands, unless they get very, very lucky.

But I stand my ground for the other things you said I said: wigs are not a viable solution, frame is almost everything, and baldness hate is socially constructed.

Of course there are different grades of attraction. It's more of a 0 to 100% scale in my opinion.

I've been with girls who clearly had a 51% attraction rate for me, it didn't work well at all.

It was over quickly and the both of us were quite unhappy.

With my current girlfriend, it's something like 90%. She really seems deeply in love with me.

I get it that some girls will stay with a guy for benefits (like romantic affection) while there is almost no sex at all.

It's their choice and it's quite human to do so. I just can't understand how they can live with themselves like this.

Not being true to oneself and fight one's instinct is quite tiring in my opinion.

Okay, that makes better sense, honestly people are so different. That's why PUA is bs too and I think you agree it is as well. No doubt looks are important and also we judge someone's personality on that but there are so many other factors that come into it. I do agree with ugly guys not getting ONS, but I have seen some in FWB. With an ugly girl of course.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Women when genuinely interested will give subtle sign of being interested. Most will not verbally upfront tell you of their desire but general gibe signs and notions that men pick up on.

As for the piece discussion. I'm slow starting to see it as a great option for those who want a lower and thicker head of hair. Something a transplant cannot give.

Exactly mate, you know your stuff. Once I kept ignoring a new girl at work as I was in a relationship and her signs kept getting more and more obvious. From eye, hair, mouth stuff to tell me she is showering, what should she wear on a night out to staring at my ****.

I also have a decent amount of hair as a Norwood 2.5 almost 30 with transplant next year most likely. But I am thinking of system too one day if I need it. Gives you what you need. I respect people not wanting one though. I have also learnt of people wearing one which has helped made me realise that. I will exhaust all treatment and donor hair first but wig is my fall back plan I think.

 

[Exodus2011]

you come off conceited wolf pack

most of your posts mention how you are attractive, get a lot of girls, are in a relationship, etc

it honestly seems like subtle calculated bragging

 

[Wolf Pack]

you come off conceited wolf pack

most of your posts mention how you are attractive, get a lot of girls, are in a relationship, etc

it honestly seems like subtle calculated bragging

No they don't, unless it's relevant to the discussion. This was about looks and apparently I gain comfort in "ugly people being with pretty girls." I don't, but it's something I notice. I wanted to point out I have no vested interest in ugly people getting pretty nice girls.

Getting into a relationship is as easy as falling out of bed for the majority of people.

The right girl, now that's a different issue.

And Exodus, a lot of girls? Well I have mentioned I am in a long term relationship and have never gone online either to get girls like many members. In fact I really enjoy being with my gf all these years over sleeping around. So prey tell, where does the lot of girls come from? Fact is your paranoia and bitterness is coming through.

 

[uncomfortable man]

you come off conceited wolf pack

most of your posts mention how you are attractive, get a lot of girls, are in a relationship, etc

it honestly seems like subtle calculated bragging

Yeah, I get that from him too.

I've seen enough ken and barbie couples to read the writing on the wall. And I understand the difference in what women find attractive and not.... but since when is being unattractive such a fvcking crime? Its like these women expect perfection from every man all the time irregardless of the circumstances. And if you arent attractive then heaven have mercy on you for committing such a grievous offence, right? So, if were not handsome enough to fvck then that makes us sub human trash somehow worthy of disrespect. What ever happened to common courtesy and being respectful to everyone, regardless if they are a model or not. Being ugly isnt a crime, being bald isnt a crime, just as being born with good genes and being attractive is not an acheivement. Wolf pack, shokwoon, aesthetic and the like belong to a group that believes it IS, that beauty IS a virtue and ugliness IS a sin... taking credit for positive attributes beyond their control while perscribing negative attributes to others for reasons beyond their control.you guys are shallow, plain and simple.

 

[Wolf Pack]

. Wolf pack, shokwoon, aesthetic and the like belong to a group that believes beauty IS a virtue and ugliness IS a sin... taking credit for positive attributes beyond their control while perscribing negative attributes to others for reasons beyond their control.

Being ugly is a sin? So why did I once rep Captain Forehead when he randomly gave himself a low rating? I repped him because I felt sorry for him. I also give him advice. I don't hate ugly people or anyone randomly. I am starting to think though that some guys on here can't stand anyone who is doing remotely well in terms of hair, looks, career. So it seems like having your life somewhat sorted is actually the sin, not being ugly.

I still remember the grief Shookwun got for correcting his Norwood 2. He said I am sorry I had money for a transplant and responded well to treatments. Obviously if he got screwed over by the transplant, was hiding in his basement, he would be showered with love.

Not to mention a couple of people have said I would look good bald due to head shape, yet I disagree. So I am hardly someone bigging myself up in every area. Also I make a point of mentioning my average height and lean muscular build. Basically no lies.

I think I'll stay out of this section for a little while anyway.

I apologise for any offence.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Writting off someone because they are bald and foresaking any positive qualities or attributes they may have because of one superfical feature beyond their control and basically denying their humanity is the real sin. An injustice that persists for us ugly bald men everyday.

 

[Exodus2011]

you didnt have to sort your life when it comes to looks and hair lol

and its more you are always mentioning being 7/10 and being a manly greek with statue like features

also u harp on and on about girls checking you out

lol im nice btw. i kno people who wud say u even come off like an asshat, douche, etc

 

[Wolf Pack]

Well in some ways I did have to sort my hair by committing to a life time of treatment and future transplants. Dedication and I do have male pattern baldness just not as severe. Also you don't know me and issues I have battled with. Just because it's not hair, looks, girls, there is more stuff in life. I've also sorted my career or did I not earn that either due to genetics lol?

Actually I have never said god like features. But yes I am above average and I do look Greek because I am one. (shock horror) These things are only mentioned in the thread when relevant. Just comes across as bitter really.

There are baldites who are very successful and work with me, in a stable relationship. I suppose they need to be insulted for having a social life and career, after all it's hard for some to identify with them.

I am not fussed what people on a forum may think of me. In real life I come across well. The forum is a place where many have numerous mental health issues. Since I have worked with people like this I know the kind of stuff they say or way they think.

I am taking a break from this section Ex. So lets just leave it there.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Well, I already have a moderate level of depression if I do one of those tests. But I get on with life like a robot and the feeling comes and goes. So hair loss wouldn't have the breakdown effect on me, maybe it would as a teen Norwood 7.

And Fred, I have previously written that between the ages of 12-17 I had to battle a lot. I was forced to revise, wasn't allowed out, controlling parents, had no social skills, acne, bad teeth, poor dress sense, also had bad health, depression and so on. Don't forget these were days before the internet, no support forums, no advice to get and so on. No where to vent. No one to understand. I even developed tinnitus and had to learn to put up with it myself. I couldn't search or ask any one. Some reason I thought I was imagining it so didn't go to the doctor and was frightened.

So yes, it's not been plain sailing either but I never stopped trying to live.

It's not so much that people have depression here or anxiety. It's more that some have a very different view of people, society and life. They don't identify with day to day people. That's where I draw the line. Other bald guys do have a life as I notice myself this.

 

[Exodus2011]

Well in some ways I did have to sort my hair by committing to a life time of treatment and future transplants. Dedication and I do have male pattern baldness just not as severe. Also you don't know me and issues I have battled with. Just because it's not hair, looks, girls, there is more stuff in life. I've also sorted my career or did I not earn that either due to genetics lol?

Actually I have never said god like features. But yes I am above average and I do look Greek because I am one. (shock horror) These things are only mentioned in the thread when relevant. Just comes across as bitter really.

There are baldites who are very successful and work with me, in a stable relationship. I suppose they need to be insulted for having a social life and career, after all it's hard for some to identify with them.

I am not fussed what people on a forum may think of me. In real life I come across well. The forum is a place where many have numerous mental health issues. Since I have worked with people like this I know the kind of stuff they say or way they think.

I am taking a break from this section Ex. So lets just leave it there.

lol at "sorting it" being popping a pill and rubbing some cream on your head x.x quit acting like you deserve something for that

and true i dont know your other issues but if i gave you a taste of your own medicine then i would just go ahead and assume you are still very insecure deep down and also not very attractive

remember when you were assuming i was "nerdy and unattractive" even before baldness? yea it goes both ways you know

 

[Wolf Pack]

That was your conversation with not cool, not me. As he said, you yourself have mentioned many negative things concerning your appearance and life in general. Also a picture. So he based it on that. Plus he wasn't bashing you, was trying to help you and you insulted him. I only tried to give you advice too at some point or another. Clearly it was wasted.

I don't want to start throwing mud and you are welcome to assume anything you want about me in terms of looks or the time you said my gf/mum was ugly. Forum opinions don't matter, real life does. I don't want to attack you, I would feel bad attacking someone who self hates already.

Keep this thread clean and not completely derailed, that's it.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Wolf, you say there is more to life than being attractive. Forget being attractive, how about just looking normal. Take that ability away and see how far it gets you with people in your everyday interactions. You will be socially alienated by a good majority of those you come in contact with (the ones who dont avoid you because of your appearance). And you wonder why some bald guys are bitter and resentfull and cant relate with privelaged full heads? Live with a horseshoe for one month and you will see how people all the sudden treat you like crap, especially women. You take your normalness for granted iow.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Will I really be alienated though UC? I am not doubting your experience but genuinely questioning to what extent. I know someone will say "wait until you're bald." Thing is my cousin is slick shaven bald in his 30s. I hang around with him a lot. He definitely hated losing his hair but how has his life changed? When I walk with him in clubs or in town is he alienated? No way. Sure he looks less attractive without his hair style, but hated? Openly mocked? I don't see it. Less attention from girls? Yes generally but even then he looks alpha in a different way in clubs. He dresses well and works out, even when he had hair, before someone mentions "why is he compensating if baldness is amazing." He has a masculine face maybe that helps I don't know.

My point is maybe there are other issues that can make baldness worse like head shape or just not having a masculine face. Some people do look very bad bald I agree. With hair they would at least not attract the wrong kind of attention, maybe that's what you're getting at? Live with a horseshoe? If you shave it clean, it will hardly show.

 

[GoldenMane]

I know I'd be ****ed if I had a horseshoe or had to shave my head. Depends on the guy. A minority still look great, some look worse, but still pretty okay, others just look awful bald, sickly, weedy, like chemo patients or like an old man. It's totally down to the head shape.

If/when it comes to it, if/when the meds wear off and if the hair transplant route isn't viable, I'd totally consider doing myself in. Maybe it's not cool to say that around here. Most people going bald shouldn't go that route, but I'm not really a "til the bitter end" kind of guy. 30 now. Hopefully finasteride and dutasteride will see me through to my 40s as an NW2ish guy and beyond that, maybe hair transplants and a cure. If I reach 40 or 50 with the hair I have now then finasteride/dutasteride will have bought me an extra decade or two of life. Literally.