What my doctor told me about propecia and hairloss drugs.

[Cassin]

I ask him a few questions about Propecia, other treatments and his other patients every time I go in for a refill, once a year.

That he has yet to ever run into anyone with a problem and he has been at this for awhile.

He told me I am the only one to ask about proscar

He has had a few others ask about dutasteride but doesn't want to prescribe it until people have tried propecia for a year

And he reads this site now that I directed him here...not the forum though.

He just kind of looked at me and blinked when I mention copper peptides..hah

Thought the finasteride/minoxidil combo was a very solid and fruit full regimen.


End of story

 

[bubka]

It is blatantly obvious that his is not a real doctor, or there was a Merck rep who just gave him a trip to Hawaii and his staff free lunch for a week.

 

[Cassin]

It is blatantly obvious that his is not a real doctor, or there was a Merck rep who just gave him a trip to Hawaii and his staff free lunch for a week.

:jump:

 

[metalheaddude]

Yet another moron GP that would be rather out playing golf than doing his job :shakehead:

 

[bubka]

I heard Cassin took a few Meck pens and coffee mugs

 

[Cassin]

Yet another moron GP that would be rather out playing golf than doing his job :shakehead:

Explain yourself.

 

[DoctorHouse]

I just can't wait to read Metalheaddude's explanation. Kind of reminds me, of I Love Lucy, when Ricky said, LUUUUUUCY, you got some esplaning to do( said with a Cuban accent). Bubka, get ready for your "comeback".

 

[Follically Challenged]

Yet another moron GP that would be rather out playing golf than doing his job :shakehead:

Explain yourself.

I think he thinks GPs are supposed to know every possible treatment for every medical condition including possible treatments which have few or no studies done on them, are not approved by the FDA, and are not even drugs (and thus you don't even need the GPs help in getting them)...Metalheaddude is that about right?

 

[Cassin]

Yet another moron GP that would be rather out playing golf than doing his job :shakehead:

Explain yourself.

I think he thinks GPs are supposed to know every possible treatment for every medical condition including possible treatments which have few or no studies done on them, are not approved by the FDA, and are not even drugs (and thus you don't even need the GPs help in getting them)...Metalheaddude is that about right?

All I know is my GP came into situation with studies and patient history to help me.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Me knowing first hand as a doctor, I know Cassin's doctor was definitely not dishing out garbage like some people I know :innocent: I trust Cassin as a person who knows when someone is bullsh.ting him. I would definitely believe whatever his doctor told Cassin was definitely more from his experiences than a study performed by someone else. We know what works and does not work simply by trial and error. First hand experience outweighs any pharmaceutical financed study.

 

[bubka]

I don't know if I would say that. However, his doctor is in concurrence with every other major study on the drug :agree:

 

[DoctorHouse]

Bubka, most likely the doctor is going by his own experiences. I have read numerous studies that conclude one thing and later find from hands on experience that those studies do not always represent real life experiences.

 

[Cassin]

I don't know if I would say that.:

?

what do you mean?

 

[DoctorHouse]

Cassin, I think Bubka likes playing devil's advocate. That's ok Bubka, your always entitled to your own opinion.

 

[Follically Challenged]

Cassin, I think Bubka likes playing devil's advocate. That's ok Bubka, your always entitled to your own opinion.

House, I'd like your opinion. Would you agree that

a) people who take drugs for money are generally in it for the money and not the altruism

and that

b) they might refrain from mentioning side effects for fear of being removed from the study?

I've done a few medical studies, I sort of have a handle on the whole thing better than your average Joe...but wouldn't employing common sense tell you that the minor side effects ("brain fog", for instance) might generally go unreported because the patient wouldn't feel threatened enough by the drug to bother reporting the side effect?

 

[metalheaddude]

Yet another moron GP that would be rather out playing golf than doing his job :shakehead:

Explain yourself.

Not until you tell me why my posts keep resetting back to 989 after I reach 1000 :nono:


Techincally I should be like 1050 posts now but I keep going back to 989 :sobbing:

 

[DoctorHouse]

Alot of times when someone is giving someone free medical attention and free medication in a study, the patient may be reluctant to tell his side effects simply because he has hope the drug will work and he had no financial obligation in getting what he wanted in the first place. If he is definitely seeing hair growth and will most likely be so happy, side effects may be ignored just so he can keep getting his free medication and free medical care. However, if you are dealing with real life patients who have to pay for your medical attention and have to pay for their medication not covered by insurance, they will be the first ones complaining about side effects until they see that the drug is actually working better than expected. Also, when a study is conducted, the doctor is not going to tell you what the side effects might be, he will just ask you on your progress check if everything is ok, have you notice any changes. You would have to volunteer a side effect. However, since everyone already knows the side effects of Propecia now, they will start believing they will have the side effects simply by the power of suggestion and what they read on forums. Sometimes we can set our minds to create symptoms that can actually exist. Sexual arousal and erections are controlled in the brain. Alot of the symptoms people complain about are controlled in the brain. I sometimes have severe back pain but sometimes I can alter my mind and the intensity of pain goes away in a matter of minutes.

 

[DelayedReaction]

The dermatologist that provided me Propecia said that he was prescribing Propecia to quite a few young men in the area, and as of yet none of them had complained about any side effects.

I'll take his word for it. The internet is a cesspool of smear campaigns these days.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Metalheaddude, your definitely a piece of work. If I were Cassin, I would have done the same thing.

 

[Axl_Rose]

Techincally I should be like 1050 posts now but I keep going back to 989 :sobbing:

LOL!