Whatevr's Success Story - With Timeline

[rclark]

My estrogel arrived. Not sure if I should start using it.

Depends on your age. In your twenties yes. A teenager? No way.

 

[spring15]

In her young teens? Uhhh wut? LOL

Sorry should have put a comma in there somewhere. 17

 

[whatevr]

Let's try this.

Also have salicylic acid on the way.

 

[Zoro]

Let's try this.

Also have salicylic acid on the way.

What's the concentration of estriol/estradiol in that?

 

[whatevr]

This is a horror story waiting to happen.

Fred, please refrain from making sensational statements and stop scaremongering in my thread. Go enjoy your hair transplant and minoxidil.

What's the concentration of estriol/estradiol in that?

"Each full press of the pump provides approximately 1 mg of natural Estriol USP and 0.25 mg of natural Estradiol USP. Formulated to contain 24 mg of Estriol and 6 mg of Estradiol per ounce."

 

[FutureSaitama]

Let's try this.

Also have salicylic acid on the way.

Good luck man ! Keep us updated.

 

[Ruby]

Will supplementing female hormones directly cause any problems, such as reducing the body's own production?
I would like to supplement a very low dose of e2 to at least arrive at the low end of normal e2 levels in men.

Estradiol (E2), when systemic in your bloodstream, can and will suppress testosterone production if the level of E2 gets high enough. You'll need to titrate your E2 intake very carefully and monitor it frequently (blood tests) to gauge your own body's HPG and HPA axis responses to external sources of E2.

 

[g.i joey]

This is a horror story waiting to happen.

The one time I agree with Fred.

Does whatever really think NOONE has ever tried this? There's a reason it's not a viable option and idk what makes you think you'll be the exception. You're not the first desperate hairloss sufferer who thought "conventional methods arentnfor me, I need to think outside the box "

Dude hates finasteride cause t gave him puffy nips but is glorifying estrogen after not being able to get it up, Suffering brain fog and recurring gyno and etc

You're making a lot of sense bud.

 

[michel sapin]

i don't know if oestrogel is more feminizing than propecia ? with propecia if you got a low baseline test level you will have a spike of 30 % of testosterone , all will be converted to oestrogen after 6 month on treatment . depending on the sensibility of the personn it can cause puffy nipples and gyno .

 

[g.i joey]

i don't know if oestrogel is more feminizing than propecia ? with propecia if you got a low baseline test level you will have a spike of 30 % of testosterone , all will be converted to oestrogen after 6 month on treatment . depending on the sensibility of the personn it can cause puffy nipples and gyno .

Millions of men have even severe gyno and are still MEN.

As Fred said even anti depressants gave him gyno, was that a Feminizing drug, no.

Now for finasteride, I don't think anyone has ever grown real breasts from finasteride, yeah I deal with minorly puffy nips on it, but my chest doesn't sag and when i do chest day my pumps are still insane.

I have nothing against this thread, except for the gullible people who think this is a safer alternative than finasteride. It is not, in any possible way safer than propecia.

 

[g.i joey]

And finasteride causes a 15% increase in estrogen ALONG with test, which should balance itself out naturally.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Does whatever really think NOONE has ever tried this?

Where's the thread of a few people trying this and documenting this with detailed records?

Millions of men have even severe gyno and are still MEN.

As Fred said even anti depressants gave him gyno, was that a Feminizing drug, no.

Now for finasteride, I don't think anyone has ever grown real breasts from finasteride, yeah I deal with minorly puffy nips on it, but my chest doesn't sag and when i do chest day my pumps are still insane.

I have nothing against this thread, except for the gullible people who think this is a safer alternative than finasteride. It is not, in any possible way safer than propecia.

I think it's clear that this is an experimental thread and the safety is unproven.

And finasteride causes a 15% increase in estrogen ALONG with test, which should balance itself out naturally.

On average it's a 15% increase in both T & E, but it's clear from people's experiences that the variations are not negligible.

 

[whatevr]

And finasteride causes a 15% increase in estrogen ALONG with test, which should balance itself out naturally.

If it balanced itself out no one would get side effects from it.

Dude hates finasteride cause t gave him puffy nips but is glorifying estrogen after not being able to get it up, Suffering brain fog and recurring gyno and etc

So basically, the same side effect profile as a hell of a lot of members here who take finasteride, with one important difference, I actually got regrowth, and most don't. Alpicort F was not all about estrogen , it also contained corticosteroids and salicylic acid. Those ingredients perhaps hold more potential than the estradiol itself. But for some reason everyone is only getting hung up on the estrogen.

You're not the first desperate hairloss sufferer who thought "conventional methods arentnfor me, I need to think outside the box "

That is exactly what I need to do seeing as the only 'inside the box' treatment completely failed me and gave me the same side effects as something that actually worked.

You're making a lot of sense bud.

I'm not here to make sense to you.


It is funny to me that all you shitposters get attracted to this thread. I am not here to convince anyone about anything, I'm not telling anyone to ditch Finasteride and do what I do, frankly I don't give a f*** what anyone does. I'm also not here to take advice from you or anyone else. I'm cautious enough on my own.

I am here primarily to DOCUMENT. If it doesn't work out in the long run, then that will be useful knowledge for the hair loss community. However, it's already been shown that something about this regimen works, and I will hopefully find out what. With or without anyone else's help.

 

[michel sapin]

sorry to correct you joey, but finasteride 1 mg increase free test by 15 % ( on average ) , but this testosterone get converted to oestrogen or SHBG, but mainly oestrogen .

 

[michel sapin]

i can say from me ( i have done several blood test ) , that my oestrogen increase was about 110 % at one time .

 

[michel sapin]

same for my free test ( i had low baseline test level)

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

sorry to correct you joey, but finasteride 1 mg increase free test by 15 % ( on average ) , but this testosterone get converted to oestrogen or SHBG, but mainly oestrogen .

No, both T & E get increased, on average.

 

[michel sapin]

yes that is what i wanted to say . and in my case it increase wway too much . At first this is like a testosterone cycle , then the body convert it to oestrogen and you get puffy nipples and lump forming

 

[g.i joey]

sorry to correct you joey, but finasteride 1 mg increase free test by 15 % ( on average ) , but this testosterone get converted to oestrogen or SHBG, but mainly oestrogen .

What are you even saying?

First you said it increases estro by 30%, it's proven that finasteride raises both estro and test by 15% EACH! You're own personal experience is just that, a personal experience. Not every guy on finasteride is gonna have even close to 110% increase in estro lmao.

For some people, this increase just throws them overboard but for most it's minor enough to not cause much. That is why some people get gyno signs from this, and they are definitely NOT the majority.

 

[michel sapin]

i know everyone respond differently .