whats the proof that DHT directly causes hairloss, and not just through its opposition to estrogen?

[JaneyElizabeth]

I had a bear as we used to call them interested in me and he had a perfect head of hair and also literally had hair covering every single centimeter of his body, front and back. Such unusual cases are confounding since more body hair usually but not always means less hair on top but <shudders> not my thing. I was waxing my body before I even thought of being trans, lol.

Maybe that was a clue to myself that I didn't get....

 

[czecha]

over for me

jbw maxx

 

[TurboFixer]

jbw maxx

lol i barely make the cut for that

 

[czecha]

lol i barely make the cut for that

caucasianmaxx and statusmaxx in third world countries

 

[deathdiss]

What is jbw maxx?

jaw bone wide?

i think it means Just be white max

 

[deathdiss]

1:58:45 why finasteride is a joke


@czecha
@TurboFixer

 

[czecha]

1:58:45 why finasteride is a joke


@czecha
@TurboFixer

tbh I heard reports of guys getting gyno from bi estro ngl

 

[deathdiss]

tbh I heard reports of guys getting gyno from bi estro ngl

from where??? no one i know has ever got gyno from such something like bi estro specifically. Dosage so low and cant go systemic on the top scalp

 

[czecha]

from where??? no one i know has ever got gyno from such something like bi estro specifically. Dosage so low and cant go systemic on the top scalp

someone on discord said it can't remember. this guy also grew back his hair tho

maybe he dosed higher idk

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

from where??? no one i know has ever got gyno from such something like bi estro specifically. Dosage so low and cant go systemic on the top scalp

I got full blown breast growth from Biestro but I was probably using three per month at that point. Low-dose estrogen equals biggest breast growing period. People who start high on E2, the body usually shuts down all breast growth....

 

[czecha]

from where??? no one i know has ever got gyno from such something like bi estro specifically. Dosage so low and cant go systemic on the top scalp

according to experts topical E only works by going systemic through osmotic pressure, another reason im not taking it. if topical E would work topically in the small amounts you are using it would be the cure tbh

 

[czecha]

I got full blown breast growth from Biestro but I was probably using three per month at that point. Low-dose estrogen equals biggest breast growing period. People who start high on E2, the body usually shuts down all breast growth....

brutal

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I got full blown breast growth from Biestro but I was probably using three per month at that point. Low-dose estrogen equals biggest breast growing period. People who start high on E2, the body usually shuts down all breast growth....

Thank you for that knowledge Janey!

 

[deathdiss]

someone on discord said it can't remember. this guy also grew back his hair tho

maybe he dosed higher idk

He used pharmacy estradiol pills which 100% give you side effects. Pills will give you the real deal when swallowed.

Bi estro dosage way too low and its not even pharma. top scalp impossible to get side effects...i even microneedled and slopped it on and still nothing.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

brutal

That's why HRT was never a thing for hair growth. The "sides" don't come together. First comes the breast growth at tiny amounts and then as levels go up, say two years, then come the hair and face results/feminization. That's why I gave up promoting HRT as being able to be used at ultra low doses. Even 1 to 2 mg can grow big breasts and areolas. It's strange because minoxidil barely goes systemic but estrogen goes systemic easily. When I was growing up, no guy would even touch a birth control pill, literally lest it be absorbed in the finger. That's going a bit far but older males probably just shake their heads "no".

 

[czecha]

He used pharmacy estradiol pills which 100% give you side effects. Pills will give you the real deal when swallowed.

Bi estro dosage way too low and its not even pharma. top scalp impossible to get side effects...i even microneedled and slopped it on and still nothing.

I think its most dangerous together with AAs according to @pegasus2 so maybe thats why

 

[czecha]

That's why HRT was never a thing for hair growth. The "sides" don't come together. First comes the breast growth at tiny amounts and then as levels go up, say two years, then come the hair and face results/feminization. That's why I gave up promoting HRT as being able to be used at ultra low doses. Even 1 to 2 mg can grow big breasts and areolas. It's strange because minoxidil barely goes systemic but estrogen goes systemic easily. When I was growing up, no guy would even touch a birth control pill, literally lest it be absorbed in the finger. That's going a bit far but older males probably just shake their heads "no".

thanks, valuable info for me

not gonna touch it

i'm so male i dont even want "better" skin from it

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

He used pharmacy estradiol pills which 100% give you side effects. Pills will give you the real deal when swallowed.

Bi estro dosage way too low and its not even pharma. top scalp impossible to get side effects...i even microneedled and slopped it on and still nothing.

You have to realize that a big bra for an MtF is double A. Triple A is average for MtF's yes using much more than you. I am worst case/best case scenario, one in 200 say....

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

thanks, valuable info for me

not gonna touch it

i'm so male i dont even want "better" skin from it

My goal is to present all of the facts and let people decide for themselves since so many guys think that their lives are over. I remember the feeling and I sought estrogen in 1983. The doctor came in, tousled my balding locks and told me no. Luckily polysorbates sort of worked until min came out in '86 or so.

 

[czecha]

My goal is to present all of the facts and let people decide for themselves since so many guys think that their lives are over. I remember the feeling and I sought estrogen in 1983. The doctor came in, tousled my balding locks and told me no. Luckily polysorbates sort of worked until min came out in '86 or so.

by what mechanism does estrogen sort of build up? i got the info elsewhere too, that bi estro would give me gyno in 6-9 month