Why are men struggling on here so much...

Wolf Pack

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Like I mentioned in my other thread, I want just one example of one ugly guy that has:

1) a nice haircut. achievable for everyone if you got on finasteride early enough /saved up enough money for a top tier transplant. There is no excuse for lack of finasteride/minoxidil knowledge anymore, almost everyone has an internet connection.
2) went to a dentist regularly and have nice teeth.
3) workout regularly/are in good shape.
4) dress stylishly/pay for nice, form fitting clothes.
5) went to a dermatologist regularly and don't have anything like major acne scars.

If you can find me just one single example of an ugly guy with all of these attributes, I will concede your point and admit I am completely wrong.

The height thing is a separate topic and outside the scope of this forum, obviously if you are 5'5" and live in a country like Germany where the average woman is like 5'10" you will need to change geographic location most likely.

Great advice. There's just one caveat though, not being ugly itself can open doors to some girls but the majority chase people in the attractive bracket, especially girls that themselves are pretty. So those guys in between can largely end up waiting a lot or being incel in my opinion while not being a bad option - if their personality is fine then it's because their looks don't have that "spark" for girls even if they are not ugly. Girls generally like a guy in the first few seconds and then they just want to see he is safe, caring etc. I've seen this a lot personally. These same guys look at other guys with their girlfriends and often comment with envy and put it down to personal bad luck or good luck for the other guy. When in reality if you asked many girls they would only keep that guy as an option or worse despite him thinking he's got a nice head of hair, grooming, tall, clothes; unfortunately there is no fix here if they are socially adjusted too, will just have to keep on trying because they don't have that look. So yes it does sometimes go beyond just doing basics but basics will help eventually with persistence.
 

Oknow

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She doesn't care that you are not white and bald?

no , I’ve not misrepresented myself with my profile

Pictures are current and my ethnicity is on my profile

Hence , she recognised me instantly and there were no surprises

The rest comes down to good chat and charm on the date
 

Norwoody

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no , I’ve not misrepresented myself with my profile

Pictures are current and my ethnicity is on my profile

Hence , she recognised me instantly and there were no surprises

The rest comes down to good chat and charm on the date
So there is hope?
 

DoctorHouse

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she’s a vegan , the only annoying part tbh
Don't be annoyed by that. I would address how she feels about you not being vegan right away. If it's a problem for her then it's going to be a problem for you. I had a good friend who was vegan and we went out all the time and we laughed how she would say I was eating carcass. It was never an issue.
 

Oknow

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Don't be annoyed by that. I would address how she feels about you not being vegan right away. If it's a problem for her then it's going to be a problem for you. I had a good friend who was vegan and we went out all the time and we laughed how she would say I was eating carcass. It was never an issue.

she’s ok with it, the problem is that I want to take her for dinner on the second date but all my usual restaurants are not vegan friendly
 

DoctorHouse

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she’s ok with it, the problem is that I want to take her for dinner on the second date but all my usual restaurants are not vegan friendly
Then cook her a nice vegan meal. That will really show you care and are romantic.
 
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