Why do men have relationships or get married to low value women?

[Oknow]

You are going to always be depressed with or without women because you still have not learned the tools to make yourself or your life more productive. Instead of being on here all the time starting listen to audiobooks that will enhance you. Learn how to be a better version of yourself. This forum is going to bring you down and you will never get better. The only way it might bring you up if you can bring other people on here up. But you don't know how to do that.

to be honest that’s a good point

putting sex aside, a relationship with the wrong woman is a nightmare

you have to put up with their sh*t - I recently had a girl lose her sh*t with me over asking her what her sister is like when high on pot or get mad when I generally spoke about other women

onto the other point, women find men who have a sense of direction in their life sexy. If the guy has his sh*t together, has strong levels of focus and she is somewhat attracted, no doubt she will latch onto him from insecurity

 

[Oknow]

They don't have any experience. Competence and confidence go hand and hand. These guys don't have either because they focus on their flaws too much. I did that and finally realized it was what comes out of my mouth that counts. How many times have you heard a girl say you are fun and interesting? They won't say that if you don't know how to engage in conversation. Dating apps and real life are not the same.

they will moan that they don’t have the experience because no women gives them a shot.

Again comes down to not creating many opportunities. I do create many but it is tedious to do so - don’t seem to realise how hard it is

 

[DoctorHouse]

they will moan that they don’t have the experience because no women gives them a shot.

Again comes down to not creating many opportunities. I do create many but it is tedious to do so - don’t seem to realise how hard it is

I remember reading how Jeff Bezos said he had failed so many times but once in while he succeeds. Multiply that by 56 years and that equals a billionaire and one of the most powerful and successful people in the world. These guys get into their comfort zone of video gaming or posting on lookism forums and feel that is enough effort in life. I am sure some of their parents enable them too. If the parents cut off these guys financially they would have a huge problem and be forced to get out of their comfort zone. That or threat to commit suicide. Or they would find a way for the government to take care of them.

 

[Oknow]

I remember reading how Jeff Bezos said he had failed so many times but once in while he succeeds. Multiply that by 56 years and that equals a billionaire and one of the most powerful and successful people in the world. These guys get into their comfort zone of video gaming or posting on lookism forums and feel that is enough effort in life. I am sure some of their parents enable them too. If the parents cut off these guys financially they would have a huge problem and be forced to get out of their comfort zone. That or threat to commit suicide. Or they would find a way for the government to take care of them.

they just seem to be so obsessed by the idea of being a playa. It’s not all that, yeah the variation is interesting when you’ve slept with different women but after a while the lack of stability is sh*t

tbh - I’d rather trade all my lays for one girl who I’m totally compatible with as opposed to going from girl to girl as is happening right now

 

[DoctorHouse]

they just seem to be so obsessed by the idea of being a playa. It’s not all that, yeah the variation is interesting when you’ve slept with different women but after a while the lack of stability is sh*t

tbh - I’d rather trade all my lays for one girl who I’m totally compatible with as opposed to going from girl to girl as is happening right now

It's sad when you find someone who seems good on paper but then you get to know her and she is needy and toxic and you don't want to hurt her feeling so you just keep seeing her. I don't play that game. I get rid of them as soon as I see red flags. Most guys don't have a clue to what a red flag is. You do because you have been dating alot. I did because I dated alot too. It not easy to find that exception to the rule.

 

[Oknow]

It's sad when you find someone who seems good on paper but then you get to know her and she is needy and toxic and you don't want to hurt her feeling so you just keep seeing her. I don't play that game. I get rid of them as soon as I see red flags. Most guys don't have a clue to what a red flag is. You do because you have been dating alot. I did because I dated alot too. It not easy to find that exception to the rule.

it’s funny cos loads of them won’t think twice about your feelings over ditching you over red flags

 

[DoctorHouse]

it’s funny cos loads of them won’t think twice about your feelings over ditching you over red flags

Exactly. If you believe rejection is just a higher power's protection. You will be just fine.

 

[Oknow]

Exactly. If you believe rejection is just a higher power's protection. You will be just fine.

good way at looking at it

come to think of it all the women that have rejected me were not right for me in hindsight

 

[justinbieberscombover]

you know, I bet if a hot woman hits on these guys they won’t have the confidence to pull her from self-esteem issues

they will talk themselves out of it

I think the game changer for me was more mental than physical in many ways. Although will not downplay physical aspects. Gym definitely helped

As soon as I went into my interactions with zero expectations, my interactions with women generally has gone better

for example if I’m talking to a woman and she doesn’t respond, I honestly don’t care and don’t chase and there’s been loads of occasions they get back in touch after a few days

Thing about women is that they don’t like needy people, as soon as they know they have you by the balls they will lose interest

these men on here are needy and desperate

Every woman is different and looks for different things in a man. Gotta detect what they're looking for. Some women want attention so if you just constantly ask how they're doing and how their day went they'll fall for you.

 

[Ourkes]

they just seem to be so obsessed by the idea of being a playa. It’s not all that, yeah the variation is interesting when you’ve slept with different women but after a while the lack of stability is sh*t

tbh - I’d rather trade all my lays for one girl who I’m totally compatible with as opposed to going from girl to girl as is happening right now

100% it’s because its a fantasy to a lot of men. However fantasy and reality are often very different. I spent years living that hedonistic lifestyle, many many different sexual partners. Problem is, you have too much of a good thing and then the novelty wears off and you start chasing a new high and / or f*****g up good relationships because you take good people that you don’t deserve for granted. Fortunately, I sorted myself out just in time, but when I look back I realise casual sex was no big deal - not something you think about like you do that great beach you visited, or those people you randomly befriended and are still in contact with years later or the great holiday you took your parents on . There is much more enjoyment to be had from other aspects of life.

Right somehow I got to get off this forum, I keep coming back, don’t even know why!

 

[justinbieberscombover]

100% it’s because its a fantasy to a lot of men. However fantasy and reality are often very different. I spent years living that hedonistic lifestyle, many many different sexual partners. Problem is, you have too much of a good thing and then the novelty wears off and you start chasing a new high and / or f*****g up good relationships because you take good people that you don’t deserve for granted. Fortunately, I sorted myself out just in time, but when I look back I realise casual sex was no big deal. There is much more enjoyment to be had from other aspects of life.

Right somehow I got to get off this forum, I keep coming back, don’t even know why!

Tbh I'm probably caught in chasing a high right now, without the player thing, but that's because I've missed out on many years due to insecurity from balding thus not looking like the idealized version of myself. Sooner or later I will settle down though, I'd just prefer it to be with the same person who gives me that high, at least in the initial stage of the relationship.

 

[Ourkes]

Tbh I'm probably caught in chasing a high right now, without the player thing, but that's because I've missed out on many years due to insecurity from balding thus not looking like the idealized version of myself. Sooner or later I will settle down though, I'd just prefer it to be with the same person who gives me that high, at least in the initial stage of the relationship.

Nothing wrong with that bro, you took action made the investment and now you want to have some fun. And I’m sure you will too!

As long as you don’t make chasing a high central to your life (which I did and it actually held me back) and you see it for what it is, it can all be enjoyable life experience

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Nothing wrong with that bro, you took action made the investment and now you want to have some fun. And I’m sure you will too!

As long as you don’t make chasing a high central to your life (which I did and it actually held me back) and you see it for what it is, it can all be enjoyable life experience

Yeah for sure, when I lay back and don't care about dating that's ironically when I see the most results

Also focusing on women too much is counterproductive to other fields in life

 

[Ourkes]

Yeah for sure, when I lay back and don't care about dating that's ironically when I see the most results

Also focusing on women too much is counterproductive to other fields in life

Definitely. If I had applied myself in my 20s like I did in my 30s, instead of continually partying and chasing skirt, I’d probably be able to stop working now and live in the sunshine, at just 42. At 25 you don’t think too much about mid life cus you think all the fun is only to be had when you’re young. Then you get older and realise you still are young (if you look after yourself) and there is so much other fun to be had and the stronger your platform, the more opportunities you have to live a great life.

I still love women, man i’m a dog, but these days I can control my urges …..well sometimes, great food and Red wine is now an addiction that is hard to control …. Give it 10 or so years and you’ll probably be in the same boat!!

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Girl from the date in Friday just texted me and asked why I disappeared.. see, 5'8 with thin hair behind the transplant and a woman can still like me.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Girl from the date in Friday just texted me and asked why I disappeared.. see, 5'8 with thin hair behind the transplant and a woman can still like me.

Not a surprise since you actually are skilled in knowing how to engage in interesting conversation and you make the effort. As long as you show you care, that automatically puts your foot in the door.

 

[Ourkes]

Girl from the date in Friday just texted me and asked why I disappeared.. see, 5'8 with thin hair behind the transplant and a woman can still like me.

No one cares about thin hair behind a transplant, don’t worry about that mate. Men are supposed to be masculine, not ultra pretty like a women. Its all about the frame.

My buddy has thin hair all over (diffused) but a NW2 hairline. Keeps his hair buzzed and you can always see scalp, is early 40s and still attracts women from late 20s whenever we go out. Actually makes me a little jealous!!

You’ll be fine. I’ve seen your transplant, looks awesome.

 

[Oknow]

Had a video call lined up tonight with a girl

she said she couldn’t make it, maybe later this week - rescheduled twice

I told her I was no longer interested, and wished her the best

in the old days I would have entertained it by rescheduling another call when I was less confident

I’m now moving onto other women

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

Had a video call lined up tonight with a girl

she said she couldn’t make it, maybe later this week - rescheduled twice

I told her I was no longer interested, and wished her the best

in the old days I would have entertained it by rescheduling another call when I was less confident

I’m now moving onto other women

How old are you?

 

[Oknow]

How old are you?

35