Why Does No One Understand The Impact Of Hair Loss?

[PappinAce]

I honestly don't begrudge anyone getting funding for an undergraduate degree - if they are getting an education, enhancing their skills, and becoming a more informed citizen then I support it.

I think my support stops for people getting grants and funding for masters and phds in arts - I do believe that should be paid out with private loans.

and what kind of society do we end up with when only STEM is valued and everything else is considered bullshit?

lots of abusive parents being discussed in this topic. abused children grow into the types of people who tend to have the worst possible reaction to something like hair loss. that partly explains why we are all here at this forum.

no perspective for the privileged. i made a comment yesterday about how disappointing my chile relleno was, while there are many people out there who would be grateful to just have food. i'm like a full head who complains about a bad hair day.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

and what kind of society do we end up with when only STEM is valued and everything else is considered bullshit?

lots of abusive parents being discussed in this topic. abused children grow into the types of people who tend to have the worst possible reaction to something like hair loss. that partly explains why we are all here at this forum.

no perspective for the privileged. i made a comment yesterday about how disappointing my chile relleno was, while there are many people out there who would be grateful to just have food. i'm like a full head who complains about a bad hair day.

We will still have artists and writers - most of the great artists never went to university anyway.

Besides, I am not saying don't study arts - I am saying it should be funded with loans and not paid for by the government.

Taxes should go on roads, health, education for under 18s, police etc. but I don't think it should pay for someone to study Shakespearean sonnets at the age of 20.

 

[Saurabhaj]

I have never Invested in stock market.
My parents have huge expertise in land business Investments.

I knew basics about the Investments.So i want to virtually see stocks investment by using google Finance.
As a practice,i bought simulated shares of company i wanted to buy if it was real deal.
I had a return of 109% within half year.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I've gone over this many times on this forum.

And in real life with my colleagues who have similar degrees as mine (literature, translation, journalism).

It's a genuine lack of empathy and understanding that STEM nerds are guilty of.

They can't comprehend that other people can have other strengths have just have brains that function differently.



You know what my main subjects were in high school? Latin and Ancient Greek.

"Useless! Those are dead languages! Enjoy a lifetime of unemployment, you should have gotten a STEM degree!"

No, i'm all for studying whatever you want - I just think the state should pay for useful subjects.

I did a literature degree and paid for it with loans - I have no qualms about this and its given me opportunities to teach.

 

[Dante92]

Are Latin, Ancient Greek, English literature, French literature courses useless?

Is learning to write, how to speak well useless?

Don't companies need copywriters, PR specialists, translators?

How do you decide what is a useful subject and what isn't?

True, but realistically, as you know, that depends on several factors.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Are Latin, Ancient Greek, English literature, French literature courses useless?

Is learning to write, how to speak well useless?

Don't companies need copywriters, PR specialists, translators?

How do you decide what is a useful subject and what isn't?

I would argue that all degrees have there uses.

Are you trying to make me say that all the government should pay for all degrees?

My personal belief is that you can be a marketer or copywriter without a degree. In fact, I worked as a journalist without a degree in my early twenties. One major issue is that people believe you need a degree to do these jobs when in reality its simply not true.

There is a culture beginning over the last ten years which forces people to have a degree in anything even if it doesn't relate to a job. The issue with this is it forces young people to take degrees even if they would rather work, because they know they wont do so well in the job market without it.

 

[Marky]

Earlier today I was getting ready to go to school, I was feeling better than most days, hearing music and such and just before getting into my car, my mom stops me to tell me she'll be home a bit later than usual, and just before she leaves, she says: "Why does your hair look like that? What shampoo are you using? Lift it up more! It looks like a toupee!"

My face FROZE, I started sweating, decided to skip school, and went straight to my bedroom. I've got to admit, I cried for almost 10 minutes... my day was over.

Then my mom comes back, and notices I'm sad as hell, asks me whats wrong, then discovers I skipped school and gets angry at me, yells at me, she says things like I got to be stronger, says hair doesn't matter to the one who loves you and the usual crap. Then my dad goes: "Oh don't be a wuss! she tells me my hair looks like s**t all the time!" I got angrier, the difference is he is 71! I'm 23!

She's partially right, I'm weak and I know it. Hair matters to me, A LOT, I can't express how much. The world is a cruel place and maybe someday I'll learn to live without worrying so much. Meanwhile I encourage people to don't be an ***, try to understand other people's feelings, be wiser with your words.

DO NOT UNDERSTIMATE THE IMPACT OF HAIR LOSS.

Sorry needed to rant, been a tough day.

My mom is like this too, asking sometimes why I don't comb my hair mushroom shaped anymore like in my high school pic - LOL!

Also asking where my natural curls are! Geez if I can still pull off hair dos like 20 years ago believe me I would.

 

[Marky]

I'm 27 and still living with my mom, and started my first job only a year ago.

It's becoming the norm in many parts of the world as living on your own is becoming way too expensive if you're single.

Living paycheck to paycheck by your early 20's and making 0 savings? Terrible strategy.

Yeah in your late 30's you'll be able to boast about not having been a mommy's boy for the last 15 years, but you'll be poor and without prospects, and you won't have the energy that you had in y our youth.

Living with your parents is the smart move.

so true, especially in real estate bubble country Canada. Vancouver and Toronto the worst, here is a $3 million dollar home in Vancouver, blue sky photoshopped:

Only $2.9 for this one

Former meth lab, going for $1.3m to the stupidest bidder:

Stuff like this is ruining peoples lives trying to start a family. Seems like the only way to make it (or get ahead) for the common middle class man is to make it big (or get lucky) in the stock market - do or die.
I should also add average household income in Vancouver is a whopping 80k annually.

 

[Marky]

Most people first move out at uni but they don't live alone - they usually live in dorms or house-shares.

I genuinely think its a great thing to be independent as it is a strong learning curve to be self sufficient. However, I am not criticising you living with your parents, in fact, the money you save probably paid for your two fues so I think its worth it.

Having said that, I would recommend everyone move out for their college years. Those are often your prime years of sex and parties and you don't want to worry about your parents while you do it.

I lived at home till age 25, thats when I graduated Uni, during that time I trained for the decathlon (10 months in the year) and worked weekends to pay for school - it was also great to have mama's home cooked meals for proper nutrition.

It's sad that many have the view that college is a time to party, get layed, stoned, drink - like buying time before you have no more choice in avoiding the real world. Many come out not sure why they even took what they took, rack up massive student loans and come out with not great job prospects (although this last part is complicated when it comes to post secondary)

 

[Marky]

This, Americans have no idea how much we're taxed here.

After taxes, I make like 20000€ a year, and I have a level A job (master level or the highest level possible).

Good luck renting or buying a house on your own with that much money.

Then you have Americans (or Canadians?) like @shookwun who boast about making 100000€ a year.

In socialist Europe, that's never, ever happening, you could be an executive with 20 years of experience, it doesn't matter, you'll be making maximum 50000€ a year after taxes.

Also, overtime is illegal.

Harsh reality.

I think shookwun is working in the oil patch - it's different conditions, out in the field for 2 weeks on and back for 1 week off. It's a big
sacrifice in life as far as I'm concerned, plus dangerous working conditions. In Canada, average salary is $55k-ish.

 

[rclark]

My mom is like this too, asking sometimes why I don't comb my hair mushroom shaped anymore like in my high school pic - LOL!

Also asking where my natural curls are! Geez if I can still pull off hair dos like 20 years ago believe me I would.

Do you have an afro?

Believe it or not, I'm white. My hair is definitely an afro. No question about it.

 

[Marky]

Do you have an afro?

Believe it or not, I'm white. My hair is definitely an afro. No question about it.

Ya it's kinda a fro - like a Tom Hanks type of do in his younger years.

Chia pet is the nickname that stuck the longest - miss those days
To an extent I can still pull it off with the right lighting and products - but without it it not what it use to be.
I'm a white man too

 

[Saurabhaj]

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[uhoil]

Sorry I haven't been here in a while and thanks for the replies. It's comforting to see how many of you know exactly what I'm talking about, I guess we really are all on the same boat.

I live with my parents because I haven't finished college, I changed degrees but I still have a part time job and I rarely ask them for money anymore. It's pretty normal to live with your parents here in Mexico up to 27-28 and then move out when you have your life better sorted out, unfortunely hair loss is only one more battle to add.

I'm aware that some parents try to motivate their children with harsh words and being mean, but I don't think it's a good approach, even if they want the best for us.

My mom doesn't understand that I'm trying my best EVERYDAY to make my hair look decent, and then comments like that just cut deep, as if all I do is for nothing, and my dad, well he is older than most (he was 49 and my mom 24 when they got married), and no offense but old people have a harder time trying to understand this kind of stuff, I guess hair loss wasn't such a big deal back then, no social media, other costumes, etc.

 

[That Guy]

In response to the OP and to be on topic:

I believe that there are three main reasons why the impact of hairloss is not understood by the general population:

• It primarily happens to men and it is a cosmetic issue. The general mentality is that looks are unimportant for men (though no one REALLY believes this) and that they're vain and possibly gay if they care about it.

• It is often believed as something that happens just to old people

• It is seen as an inevitable act of nature and as we all know, everything "natural" is inherently good or at least not a bad thing, right?

The trouble is, nobody actually has a positive reaction to aesthetically-undesirable traits that are an act of nature. Unless you have some weird fetish, no one wants to be or be with someone who is old, wrinkled, with gray hair, bald, etc. but they cope with it by romanticizing it.

For example, every 50 year old woman who is wrinkled with gray hair and sagging tits secretly wishes she looked like Gwen Stefani does at age 48 (and no guy would turn her down) no matter what they tell you or what inspirational BS quotes about aging she posts on her facebook.

In response to the off-topic conversations about living at home:

I think it's worth mentioning that the whole "you have to be out, living on your own at 18 or else you're a f*****g loser" is largely a post-ww2, North American value and the age is largely arbitrary.

In the mid-20th century, a person could easily find a job and with that job, fund their way through school, afford an apartment and maybe even a car and later they might have a better job from going through school. Living at home past the age of being a legal adult made little sense to many because it was easy to forge your own path, have all your own stuff and be pumping out kids by age 25.

This is simply not feasible in the west anymore (unless you have at the very least one roommate or lucked out with a VERY good job) and to be honest with you: It probably never will be this way ever again.

Lastly, it only applies to guys. When I was in college, I knew this girl who was 26 and still lived at home and her parents bought her everything. No one gave a sh*t because she was a girl and she was hot.

The guy in my class who was 25, ripped and captain of the basketball team was mocked for living at home.