Why Finasteride Only Works With A Few Men ? The Answer

[Stanx22]

This question has always been in my mind. I've seen a lot of you guy saying that Finasteride had done wonders for you since you jumped on it, but on the other hand i've seen guys with no results at all either good or bad, just side effects. Why does this happen ? Don't we all share the same shitty gene that makes us go bald ? DHT attack hair follicles in a certain pattern and because some of them are genetically resistant it finally leads to the Norwood 7 or as we know the horseshoe hair, so why only some people Finasteride works for them ? I think the answer because those people were never balding in the first place. A lot of people with no family history and even a family history is not a guarantee because male pattern baldness can skip a generation when they notice a small recession in the hair they jump on Finasteride ASAP and after 10 years or so think that it's a miracle they kept their hair all the way long which in return gives a false hope to the real hair loss sufferers. Don't get me wrong i'm not saying the drug is completely useless, but it's completely impossible to keep your hair as the same if you have male pattern baldness for like 15 years with Finasteride. It'll slow it down for a year or two at most. If Finasteride can keep your hair for like 10 or 20 years then we already have the cure we should just jump on Finasteride and wait more 20 years until the recession thing starts to bother us again. Sure the question will be : but there were some people who used it and grew their hair back, how did that happen ? It's because NOT EVERY HAIR LOSS IS male pattern baldness there're many forms of hair loss. Anxiety causes hair loss, chemicals causes hair loss, extreme fear causes hair loss, bad hair products or heating. it's not always male pattern baldness and in those cases Finasteride will be very good because it isn't fighting genetics. The conclusion : Not every hair loss is male pattern baldness and not every small receding hairline is male pattern baldness and Finasteride will never make you keep your hair for 20 years or so and if it works for some people for 20 years or so and good for them, but they threw their money on the ground for nothing.
I'll post a pictures of a receding hairline men that a lot of you guys always confuse with balding because you think if you don't have a Norwood 1 perfect shining teenager hair you're definitely balding which makes me sick because many of those people who aren't balding after they've been told that they're balding because of their receding hairline start to support those shitty useless companies who have no intention to give us a real cure and also the real bald guys support them based on that false hope about how wonderful those drugs are and at the end we are the ones who lose. And if you want to know how to know you're really balding after you notice some recession ? The Answer is "Thinning Hair".
Zalatan Ibrahimovic : 18 years old receding and after 10 years his hair hasn't changed.
Clint Eastwood : Young and after like 30 years has a good hair for his age.
Andrew Lincoln whose hair hasn't changed since the first time i saw him.

 

[davesmith420]

Listen to this posts with text to speech for lolz

 

[Stanx22]

Listen to this posts with text to speech for lolz

Where is the lack of logic in my post ?

 

[MrPortugal]

We don't know to much about male pattern baldness, few people receding in the adolescence and stay for many years and others who are a NW1 with 40 years old and be a NW5 with 50 years old.

Finasteride works for many people and others doesn't works at all....this also includes minoxidil too who works for few people longterm and others don't do nothing.

IMO, if your are thinning back of head or loss density it's the best indication if you have male pattern baldness or not.. and obviously see a dermatologist for miniaturization test.

 

[Stanx22]

We don't know to much about male pattern baldness, few people receding in the adolescence and stay for many years and others who are a NW1 with 40 years old and be a NW5 with 50 years old.

Finasteride works for many people and others doesn't works at all....this also includes minoxidil too who works for few people longterm and others don't do nothing.

IMO, if your are thinning back of head or loss density it's the best indication if you have male pattern baldness or not.. and obviously see a dermatologist for miniaturization test.

I agree with most of what you said.

 

[Crystalclear12]

This is so far from true lol. Finasteride blocks around 70% of type 1 dht. If you have slow receding hair, instead of receding in 5 years, you're slowly receding over 15 years. The reason why it "doesn't work" for some people is because their male pattern baldness is too aggressive. People lose hair from male pattern baldness at different rates lol, this post makes no sense

 

[Bigbone]

Finasteride still has a good chance to slow it down, if it can save some from going bald in their 30's it's still something. But other than that I kind of agree, if you have NW6-7 in your blood finasteride won't guarantee you your hair. It's still the only thing available and if someone wants a chance to save/slow down their hair loss there are no other options. But some claim that if you're on finasteride you're set for life and to just go and get a hair transplant, that's where I disagree.

 

[davesmith420]

Where is the lack of logic in my post ?

I get what you're trying to say, but hearing a robotic voice say sh*t like "I'll post a pictures of a receding hairline men that a lot of you guys always confuse with balding because you think if you don't have a Norwood 1 perfect shining teenager hair you're definitely balding" is priceless

 

[Stanx22]

I get what you're trying to say, but hearing a robotic voice say sh*t like "I'll post a pictures of a receding hairline men that a lot of you guys always confuse with balding because you think if you don't have a Norwood 1 perfect shining teenager hair you're definitely balding" is priceless

LOL yeah i agree with you on that.

 

[abcdefg]

Its not black and white. Some percent of men might take finasteride and keep all their hair for 15 years. Someone else it barely works, and they still slowly recede over many years. People love to paint black and white pictures or throw out giant blanket statements, but things rarely work like that.
Medicine is still pretty primitive, and we know small percent of what exists.

 

[kj6723]

This question has always been in my mind. I've seen a lot of you guy saying that Finasteride had done wonders for you since you jumped on it, but on the other hand i've seen guys with no results at all either good or bad, just side effects. Why does this happen ? Don't we all share the same shitty gene that makes us go bald ? DHT attack hair follicles in a certain pattern and because some of them are genetically resistant it finally leads to the Norwood 7 or as we know the horseshoe hair, so why only some people Finasteride works for them ? I think the answer because those people were never balding in the first place. A lot of people with no family history and even a family history is not a guarantee because male pattern baldness can skip a generation when they notice a small recession in the hair they jump on Finasteride ASAP and after 10 years or so think that it's a miracle they kept their hair all the way long which in return gives a false hope to the real hair loss sufferers. Don't get me wrong i'm not saying the drug is completely useless, but it's completely impossible to keep your hair as the same if you have male pattern baldness for like 15 years with Finasteride. It'll slow it down for a year or two at most. If Finasteride can keep your hair for like 10 or 20 years then we already have the cure we should just jump on Finasteride and wait more 20 years until the recession thing starts to bother us again. Sure the question will be : but there were some people who used it and grew their hair back, how did that happen ? It's because NOT EVERY HAIR LOSS IS male pattern baldness there're many forms of hair loss. Anxiety causes hair loss, chemicals causes hair loss, extreme fear causes hair loss, bad hair products or heating. it's not always male pattern baldness and in those cases Finasteride will be very good because it isn't fighting genetics. The conclusion : Not every hair loss is male pattern baldness and not every small receding hairline is male pattern baldness and Finasteride will never make you keep your hair for 20 years or so and if it works for some people for 20 years or so and good for them, but they threw their money on the ground for nothing.
I'll post a pictures of a receding hairline men that a lot of you guys always confuse with balding because you think if you don't have a Norwood 1 perfect shining teenager hair you're definitely balding which makes me sick because many of those people who aren't balding after they've been told that they're balding because of their receding hairline start to support those shitty useless companies who have no intention to give us a real cure and also the real bald guys support them based on that false hope about how wonderful those drugs are and at the end we are the ones who lose. And if you want to know how to know you're really balding after you notice some recession ? The Answer is "Thinning Hair".
Zalatan Ibrahimovic : 18 years old receding and after 10 years his hair hasn't changed.
Clint Eastwood : Young and after like 30 years has a good hair for his age.
Andrew Lincoln whose hair hasn't changed since the first time i saw him.

wat

 

[Norwoodcemetary]

Im 7 months on finasteride .for frontal recession ..nw2.5. .first 4months was .25mg then 3 months on .5 ...i lost like 30% density all over since i started and now have crown thinning where it was thick as a forest...idk wat to do

 

[Razzabo]

CAG repeats. And it's not because it's too aggressive. DHT isn't the only reason for hair loss male pattern baldness. Only Merck wants you to believe that. It has to do with Prostaglandins.

 

[dralex]

I get what you're saying but it isn't completely correct. Studies showed on average an increase in hair count in balding men on finasteride, meaning it does work for some. I do agree though that many people jump on finasteride when they just had a mature hairline and probs wouldn't have receded any further anytime soon anyway. If you just have temple recession it is difficult to tell whether your hair loss will progress. Usually you will start getting diffuse thinning, crown loss, and hairline recession in the center and that's when you can tell you have male pattern loss. Finasteride still can work wonders for some people who have male pattern loss, and can do little to nothing for others.

 

[Stanx22]

I get what you're saying but it isn't completely correct. Studies showed on average an increase in hair count in balding men on finasteride, meaning it does work for some. I do agree though that many people jump on finasteride when they just had a mature hairline and probs wouldn't have receded any further anytime soon anyway. If you just have temple recession it is difficult to tell whether your hair loss will progress. Usually you will start getting diffuse thinning, crown loss, and hairline recession in the center and that's when you can tell you have male pattern loss. Finasteride still can work wonders for some people who have male pattern loss, and can do little to nothing for others.

If there're studies supports what you're saying then i can't argue with you.

 

[dralex]

If there're studies supports what you're saying then i can't argue with you.

I mean its all the studies that got the drug approved for hair loss. There is loads of data on finasteride's effectiveness for hair loss.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2011/020788s018lbl.pdf
"At 5 years, 100% of men in the placebo group demonstrated hair loss, compared with 35% of men treated with PROPECIA."
If you read the results, it shows that finasteride does lose effectiveness over time though, as men with continued hair loss signficantly increased from 17% at 2 years to 35% at 5 years.

 

[Stanx22]

I mean its all the studies that got the drug approved for hair loss. There is loads of data on finasteride's effectiveness for hair loss.

Yeah man i don't disagree with you, but you know these companies especially the medical companies can do anything to sell their product and gain wealth and fame that's why i don't trust them easily.

 

[dralex]

Yeah man i don't disagree with you, but you know these companies especially the medical companies can do anything to sell their product and gain wealth and fame that's why i don't trust them easily.

It's studies to gain FDA approval though. They're going to be very reliable, especially for results. For side effects it is more difficult to judge, for one because erectile dysfunction is kind of hard to detect and can happen over time, two, ED is something that many people don't want to bring up because of embarrassment and therefore is under-reported, and three, the FDA cares more about life-threatening side effects than something like ED or low libido. These forums seem to highly over-hype finasteride effectiveness though. The response you will hear on here is that if you take finasteride you will maintain what you have. If you look at the study, 35% of people had continued loss at 5 years. This is a huge chunk of people. Also this includes people who didn't have aggressive hair loss. I guarantee if there was a study done on just young men (early 20s) with aggressive male pattern baldness, finasteride results would not be all that impressive.

Honestly I don't think finasteride is that great of a treatment for most people, but its the best we got. Only thing better is dutasteride, but it is kind of a gamble to take and I hate how long the half-life is.

 

[Stanx22]

It's studies to gain FDA approval though. They're going to be very reliable, especially for results. For side effects it is more difficult to judge, for one because erectile dysfunction is kind of hard to detect and can happen over time, two, ED is something that many people don't want to bring up because of embarrassment and therefore is under-reported, and three, the FDA cares more about life-threatening side effects than something like ED or low libido. These forums seem to highly over-hype finasteride effectiveness though. The response you will hear on here is that if you take finasteride you will maintain what you have. If you look at the study, 35% of people had continued loss at 5 years. This is a huge chunk of people. Also this includes people who didn't have aggressive hair loss. I guarantee if there was a study done on just young men (early 20s) with aggressive male pattern baldness, finasteride results would not be all that impressive.

Honestly I don't think finasteride is that great of a treatment for most people, but its the best we got. Only thing better is dutasteride, but it is kind of a gamble to take and I hate how long the half-life is.

Yeah man i completely and fully agree with you. I like when people talk with logic and that's what you did. I just didn't like the idea of over-praising Finasteride like i feel some people worship it as it was the holy water or something because it's not that effective as you said. It can work tho, but it's impossible to work all that time. What i meant in my post that no treatment can make you keep your hair for 10 or 15 years if you have male pattern baldness aggressive or not, but i've seen people here who have been using it for that long. My theory that those people never had hair loss in the first place and that's why they had amazing results because actually the drug hadn't done anything at all for them because they were never going bald, but BDD and paranoia can play tricks with you and your mind. And for people with male pattern baldness then Finasteride will not make you keep your hair that long, but if it works then 2 or 3 years at most is far better than nothing actually. Considering the price of the drug and the side effects it really doesn't worth that much hype, but we really isn't in a position to make a choice.

 

[dralex]

Yeah man i completely and fully agree with you. I like when people talk with logic and that's what you did. I just didn't like the idea of over-praising Finasteride like i feel some people worship it as it was the holy water or something because it's not that effective as you said. It can work tho, but it's impossible to work all that time. What i meant in my post that no treatment can make you keep your hair for 10 or 15 years if you have male pattern baldness aggressive or not, but i've seen people here who have been using it for that long. My theory that those people never had hair loss in the first place and that's why they had amazing results because actually the drug hadn't done anything at all for them because they were never going bald, but BDD and paranoia can play tricks with you and your mind. And for people with male pattern baldness then Finasteride will not make you keep your hair that long, but if it works then 2 or 3 years at most is far better than nothing actually. Considering the price of the drug and the side effects it really doesn't worth that much hype, but we really isn't in a position to make a choice.

Some people actually do have extremely impressive results long-term though, even those who had very aggressive hair loss. You shouldn't expect regrowth on finasteride, but some users on here had significant regrowth. The most impressive results I've ever seen on finasteride were Somebody's success story (https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...inasteride-results-7-mo-treatment-pics.44087/). Although he was clearly a good responder to minoxidil, he had insane regrowth on finasteride alone. I don't understand why some people respond so well to finasteride while others don't, and its the same way with minoxidil. Unfortunately I've continued to lose hair while on both, but I would still recommend it to people who are trying to keep their hair because it is the best drug for hair loss out there that is backed up for safety and efficacy.