Why is there still no cure for baldness?

2bald2young

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The title pretty much explains it all, I simply do not understand why there is still no cure for baldness. Internet doesn't come up with something usefull when I google it and the only thing I read about it was a comment from hellouser ,I think, where he stated that it was because of the lack of interest. I do understand that it is not easy to find a cure but do you agree that it is also not impossible? for example you could compare the scalps of a bald person and someone who isn't and investigate the difference, only 1 person did it and saw that pgd2 thing. What I want to say is that it angers me that humanity can go to the moon if they want, comes up with weapons that can detroy the entire world (yes nukes), can change dna of plants, are able to clone sheeps, make babies in vitro and so on BUT we can't seem to find a way to grow hair on someones head when he lost it? I am 16 years old and I have agressive Androgenetic Alopecia with retrograde alopecia and it saddens me to see that there is still no cure for baldness. Spending all my earned money to buy minoxidil, ru and ketoconazol is not something that makes me happy (finasteride doesn't cost me anything because it is covered by insurance)...:(


So can anybody explain to me why it is so hard to find a way to find something against baldness or is it simple just the lack of interest dispite of the money you could make with "the cure"?:dunno:

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People need to be able to profit and have a competitive advantage over other treatments. The goals of most company's researching a cure want to find a consumable product you have to take the rest of your life and become dependent on to ensure their profitability. If there was a simple cure it would cost 1000s of dollars to have it done to cover the costs and research that went into it. Who knows what they will have in the future. Hellouser does provide us as a good source for keeping up with the latest research.

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2bald2young

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Yeah that is true but I don't really think that there is a cure where you just need to take one pill in your life that can reverse baldness. So if they make a topical of a product that would actually reverse it, they would make a lot of money out of it...

I just really hope that desmond is going to provide us with some good news from that conference.

And btw I am glad you like my avatar :)
 

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2young2bald: "I am 16 years old and I have agressive Androgenetic Alopecia with retrograde alopecia and it saddens me to see that there is still no cure for baldness"

There is not a cure because we don't know the real cause of common baldness, the better, actual and real option is prevent the hair loss, ...., (prevention better than cure) but most of the investigation are focused in genetics and androgens, mainly due the work of Hamilton in the forties of last century, working with a only a few persons. It is the time to discover if Hamilton was right, this experiment was not validated with other experiences, no replication by any any other doctor,.....,
It is imposibke discover the cure while we don't understand the real, initial, and triguering cause of common baldness, We need more effort in this issue.

Visit a good profesional, but you are very young to use finasteride, RU, Minoxidil, etc
¿What is retrograde alopecia?
 

2bald2young

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Retrograde alopecia is when for some reason the hair around the ears and the nape is thinning. And thanks for your concern but I have visited a dermatologist and they have checked if I could take it by doing some test and they told me that I am able to take it. Apperently I am already mature :/
 

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2bald2young

I dont know how treat retrograde alopecia, but I did not read a single publication that ru, finast, minoxidil and keto is used in it.

I would advise a visit to the University of Berlin (they are working a lot with neurotransmisor and hair,) where they can investigate your case before you start using this explosive cocktail, especially at your age, though your dr and the analysis say you're already mature What factors you measured?


Good luck and be careful
 

2bald2young

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for example they checked if I was still growing. I don't think that I am able to travel to Berlin but the only thing I can say about finasteride is that I didn't had any sides at all and my brother also used it when he was 17 and didn't had any problems with it so I should be fine as long as I don't touch duta. anyway thanks for the replys. :)
 

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for example they checked if I was still growing. I don't think that I am able to travel to Berlin but the only thing I can say about finasteride is that I didn't had any sides at all and my brother also used it when he was 17 and didn't had any problems with it so I should be fine as long as I don't touch duta. anyway thanks for the replys. :)
At the very least I don't feel so bad for having started it at 18.
 

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The title pretty much explains it all, I simply do not understand why there is still no cure for baldness. Internet doesn't come up with something usefull when I google it and the only thing I read about it was a comment from hellouser ,I think, where he stated that it was because of the lack of interest. I do understand that it is not easy to find a cure but do you agree that it is also not impossible? for example you could compare the scalps of a bald person and someone who isn't and investigate the difference, only 1 person did it and saw that pgd2 thing. What I want to say is that it angers me that humanity can go to the moon if they want, comes up with weapons that can detroy the entire world (yes nukes), can change dna of plants, are able to clone sheeps, make babies in vitro and so on BUT we can't seem to find a way to grow hair on someones head when he lost it? I am 16 years old and I have agressive Androgenetic Alopecia with retrograde alopecia and it saddens me to see that there is still no cure for baldness. Spending all my earned money to buy minoxidil, ru and ketoconazol is not something that makes me happy (finasteride doesn't cost me anything because it is covered by insurance)...:(


So can anybody explain to me why it is so hard to find a way to find something against baldness or is it simple just the lack of interest dispite of the money you could make with "the cure"?:dunno:

Sorry for my english

There's no cure because its predominantly a man's problem and not enough people care nor have they cared before. If women were to have gone bald like men and in the same numbers, you can be sure we'd have a lot more treatments available if not a cure.
 

2bald2young

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Yeah we men are supposed to just men up and life on, while hair loss is just for most men really devastating and sometimes even a life destroyer. :/
 

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Finding a cure for hairloss would be the equivalent of coming up with a cure for blue eyes. Unfortunately it just so happens that we are extremely sensitive to the prospect of going bald and because of this we are made to believe and want to believe that it is a disease that can and should be cured, when in fact it is no different than how tall you are. If you want to ask why there is no cure for baldness, you might as well ask why there is no cure for shortness, or ugliness, or the tone of your voice. This is another part of our genetic makeup friends. Find a cure for you're unsymmetrical eyebrows or your strangely shaped ears, or that mole that's on you're ***, and there's your cure for baldness. In other words, find a way to mess with you're genes, and there's your cure. So take your finasteride and put on your minoxidil, and then use whatever they come up with next that might be really awesome and effective. That's the best we'll ever have.
 

2bald2young

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Finding a cure for hairloss would be the equivalent of coming up with a cure for blue eyes. Unfortunately it just so happens that we are extremely sensitive to the prospect of going bald and because of this we are made to believe and want to believe that it is a disease that can and should be cured, when in fact it is no different than how tall you are. If you want to ask why there is no cure for baldness, you might as well ask why there is no cure for shortness, or ugliness, or the tone of your voice. This is another part of our genetic makeup friends. Find a cure for you're unsymmetrical eyebrows or your strangely shaped ears, or that mole that's on you're ***, and there's your cure for baldness. In other words, find a way to mess with you're genes, and there's your cure. So take your finasteride and put on your minoxidil, and then use whatever they come up with next that might be really awesome and effective. That's the best we'll ever have.

Since the media is calling every breakthrough a potential cure I accidentally typed it 2. However I see your point here.
 

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Finding a cure for hairloss would be the equivalent of coming up with a cure for blue eyes. Unfortunately it just so happens that we are extremely sensitive to the prospect of going bald and because of this we are made to believe and want to believe that it is a disease that can and should be cured, when in fact it is no different than how tall you are. If you want to ask why there is no cure for baldness, you might as well ask why there is no cure for shortness, or ugliness, or the tone of your voice. This is another part of our genetic makeup friends. Find a cure for you're unsymmetrical eyebrows or your strangely shaped ears, or that mole that's on you're ***, and there's your cure for baldness. In other words, find a way to mess with you're genes, and there's your cure. So take your finasteride and put on your minoxidil, and then use whatever they come up with next that might be really awesome and effective. That's the best we'll ever have.

This.
Male pattern baldness is something that is determined by our DNA, and we most definetly do not possess the knowledge to mess with our genes at this point in time, and I highly doubt that we will in the near future. And since we can´t eliminate the actual "source" of our hairloss, the best( and only) bet is to reduce DHT levels in our blood as its done by finasterid.
 
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Hello 2bald2young,

your english is alright , don't worry about it

I recall having read some commentary alike to Diffuser's 44 one,

it said that:
Companies would rather have a life time consumer (minoxidil , finasteride) than a one time consumer (the possible pill that you are alluding to) , because it's best for their business. that's unfortunately the true face of modern capitalism.

I am not excluding the possibility that something has been discovered or is under approval process , but you cannot know what is behind the curtain until it comes to light , commercialization (prices and distribution) is the biggest pain in the neck as said above , the less the concurrence the higher the costs.
 

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for example they checked if I was still growing. I don't think that I am able to travel to Berlin but the only thing I can say about finasteride is that I didn't had any sides at all and my brother also used it when he was 17 and didn't had any problems with it so I should be fine as long as I don't touch duta. anyway thanks for the replys. :)
I used propecia at 16 and developed normally. Don't worry about it. The only thing that is not normal is my hairline and that is far worse. As for a baldness cure, we are getting close to it. There are major discoveries every year. Even ten years ago we didn't know about dkk1, fgf9, pgd2, the differences of Derma papilla cells in the balding scalp and haired scalp and Dr. Christianos research. You're lucky, in ten years they might have something and you will still be young.
 

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There will never be a "cure", but I believe within a generation or two, there will be a breakthrough that will at least allow for the balding man to stand a fighting chance without having to worry that he'll fall into the finasteride minority of suffering from a dead penis and an achy nutsack for the rest of his life. If there were someway to make the hairs on our scalp able to be more resistant or even immune to DHT that would be great. Hair cloning would be a miracle to men in their 30s and 40s who started balding young and are now Norwood 6s and 7s, but that really looks to be more like a pipe dream for the very foreseeable future as well as probably not being affordable to the average middle class man. Balding at a young age is something that no man should have to endure, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

I'm praying for a better solution than the ones available today, even though I'm thankful that there are at least such treatments at our disposal. The waiting game with finasteride and minoxidil is too much to handle, and I'm hoping a brilliant mind will come along and save the balding community, and make androgenic alopecia go right next to Bubonic Plague and Polio as diseases -- that's right, I said diseases -- that have been cured, and they're a thing of the past... for the sake of our sons and our grandsons and so on.
 

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There will never be a "cure", but I believe within a generation or two, there will be a breakthrough that will at least allow for the balding man to stand a fighting chance without having to worry that he'll fall into the finasteride minority of suffering from a dead penis and an achy nutsack for the rest of his life. If there were someway to make the hairs on our scalp able to be more resistant or even immune to DHT that would be great. Hair cloning would be a miracle to men in their 30s and 40s who started balding young and are now Norwood 6s and 7s, but that really looks to be more like a pipe dream for the very foreseeable future as well as probably not being affordable to the average middle class man. Balding at a young age is something that no man should have to endure, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

I'm praying for a better solution than the ones available today, even though I'm thankful that there are at least such treatments at our disposal. The waiting game with finasteride and minoxidil is too much to handle, and I'm hoping a brilliant mind will come along and save the balding community, and make androgenic alopecia go right next to Bubonic Plague and Polio as diseases -- that's right, I said diseases -- that have been cured, and they're a thing of the past... for the sake of our sons and our grandsons and so on.
You never know. Every once in a while there is a breakthrough out of nowhere and changes the game. We might get lucky and have something discovered tomorrow.
 

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You never know. Every once in a while there is a breakthrough out of nowhere and changes the game. We might get lucky and have something discovered tomorrow.
True, but I live my life on the principal that you prepare for the worst and hope for the best. If it actually did happen, there would be so many happy swingin' d*cks around the world, myself included.
 

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Maybe they have a cure and rogaine and Merck are paying them to keep quiet about it
 

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Maybe they have a cure and rogaine and Merck are paying them to keep quiet about it

Definitely not.

No amount of money Merck and Rogaine could offer would be enough for researchers to withhold from making millions of dollars and completely revolutionizing the entire hair restoration industry. Besides, Minoxidil's patent has long since expired and Merck's patent on Finasteride is about to be over too, Merck's profits are going to crash even more soon.

Like I said, there's no cure because not enough people have cared to cure baldness; men's health has never been a top priority. Women get more benefits than we do in this department.
 
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