Why The Galea Is The Fundamental Cause Of Male Pattern Balding (& Androgens Are Secondary)

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OP's theory states that those transplanted hairs stay "immune" because of epigenetics.

Where is the proof for that? He just tries to warp facts to fit his theory instead of finding a theory that fits reality.
 

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Until there is a long term study on patient outcomes I don’t think we can reasonably make this assumption.

But we can assume his head canon theory is right, based on unproven setpieces?
 

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Theres a guy in his 50's who works in a shop near me. Had NW1-2 transplanted 20 ish years ago and since then everything else has vanished to NW7 but his transplanted hair is perfectly intact. sh*t looks like he's wearing a headband made of hair on a bald head.
 

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But we can assume his head canon theory is right, based on unproven setpieces?

Of course we can't. The GA transmited scalp tension hypothesis presents the most credible explanation as to why male pattern baldness progresses in the pattern it does, I think it is pitiful that researchers haven't more thoroughly investigated this link.
 

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Of course we can't. The GA transmited scalp tension hypothesis presents the most credible explanation as to why male pattern baldness progresses in the pattern it does, I think it is pitiful that researchers haven't more thoroughly investigated this link.

"The hypothesis argues that: (1) chronic scalptension transmitted from the galea aponeurotica induces an inflammatory response in androgenic alopecia-prone tissues"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987717310411

This is Rob from perfecthairhealth.com 's peer reviewed article that supports the galea theory
https://perfecthairhealth.com/update-2018-published-research-paper/

*I do not currently have outspoken support for this theory*
 

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In support of the blood flow theory of Androgenetic Alopecia, hair transplantation works because the hairs transplanted go deeper into the scalp where they can reach blood flow much better than the shallower, original hairs that miniaturize.

It's an interesting idea, if anyone has good proof for or against this idea please provide.
 

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In support of the blood flow theory of Androgenetic Alopecia, hair transplantation works because the hairs transplanted go deeper into the scalp where they can reach blood flow much better than the shallower, original hairs that miniaturize.

It's an interesting idea, if anyone has good proof for or against this idea please provide.

No proof and hairs taken from the non safe donor zone/ in people with dupa miniaturize when transplanted. I have seen case studies from hairtransplant doctors on that.
 

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No proof and hairs taken from the non safe donor zone/ in people with dupa miniaturize when transplanted. I have seen case studies from hairtransplant doctors on that.
Interesting and sobering. Do you mind sharing these case studies?

I'd like to point out that hairtransplant doctors profit from the viability and current understanding of why hair transplants work. I wouldn't take all information about the nutrition of tomatoes from tomato farmers.
 

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No proof and hairs taken from the non safe donor zone/ in people with dupa miniaturize when transplanted. I have seen case studies from hairtransplant doctors on that.
Also sorry, what's dupa? Is this a different situation than "regular" Androgenetic Alopecia?
Forgive my ignorance
 

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Interesting and sobering. Do you mind sharing these case studies?

I'd like to point out that hairtransplant doctors profit from the viability and current understanding of why hair transplants work. I wouldn't take all information about the nutrition of tomatoes from tomato farmers.

Also sorry, what's dupa? Is this a different situation than "regular" Androgenetic Alopecia?
Forgive my ignorance

I'd have to look them up, maybe tomorrow. The cases stand on their own though, hair transplanted from a zone that is affected by thinning later on will thin when transplanted to the top of your head as well.


Diffused unpatterned alopecia, basically your sides thin as well.
 

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I'd have to look them up, maybe tomorrow. The cases stand on their own though, hair transplanted from a zone that is affected by thinning later on will thin when transplanted to the top of your head as well.


Diffused unpatterned alopecia, basically your sides thin as well.
THank you.
It's possible I had dupa then, because my temple points are thinned and my sides feel the same inflmmation sensation as my receding hairline.

For what it's worth, when I was in a chat room about baldness treatments it occured to us that many who have retrograde alopecia (is this different than dupa) almost all of us suffered from Hypothyroidism.
 

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"The hypothesis argues that: (1) chronic scalptension transmitted from the galea aponeurotica induces an inflammatory response in androgenic alopecia-prone tissues"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987717310411

This is Rob from perfecthairhealth.com 's peer reviewed article that supports the galea theory
https://perfecthairhealth.com/update-2018-published-research-paper/

*I do not currently have outspoken support for this theory*

I feel a bit naive now, always thought this article was really inciteful at the time but had I known what I know now that the author of this hypothesis isn't even in academia, was his first article, and was accepted in a journal with what seems to have no standards or peer reviewing protocols in place, I feel I wouldn't have given as much credence to the claims.
 

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I feel a bit naive now, always thought this article was really inciteful at the time but had I known what I know now that the author of this hypothesis isn't even in academia, was his first article, and was accepted in a journal with what seems to have no standards or peer reviewing protocols in place, I feel I wouldn't have given as much credence to the claims.
From my viewpoint at the moment it's scar tissue (fibrosis) and calcium deposition in the scalp environment that may be causing the stiffness that so many people claim is the galea

Actually I just read recently that foam rolling and massage breaks up fibrosis in the body so that provides a little bit more support to the idea you're breaking up perricular fibrosis

Rob does go to Stanford and take a lot of time to look into hairloss - I wouldn't rate his deductive reasoning like a paid researcher, but he does have a lot of insights that may be useful
 

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Reminder that hairs taken from balding areas of the scalp and transplanted onto the forearm still miniaturize as if they were on the scalp.

This whole galea theory is really old and debunked. The follicles are fundamentally, genetically fucked.
 

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Reminder that hairs taken from balding areas of the scalp and transplanted onto the forearm still miniaturize as if they were on the scalp.

This whole galea theory is really old and debunked. The follicles are fundamentally, genetically fucked.
That's a different environment. They've had successful transplants of body hair being transplanted in the scalp
 

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I honestly really like this theory. I think it helps add to the Androgen theory by moving the initial cause up the causal chain. This would also help explain why stem cell transplant from adipoose tissue helps with hairloss.
 

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We have something in belgium called galeaatonomie in the welnessclinic they loosen the galea so there is no more hairloss some people already did it and say its a scam because it doesnt halt it for sh*t it already exist for more the 10 years

It is actually banned in the US.
 

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What about shape of bald men's head has to do with baldness. Though skull expansion theory has never been proved I believe it is true. Those men whose skulls are flat and foreheads are steep rarely go bald. My father is example, he is 73 and still nw2 with some age related thinning. Sloping protruding foreheads and dome shape head would exert more pressure on hairs overlie games and in turn turn on cascading. If we could remodeled skull shape through massage and medication we could stop alopecia ,bones are pliable so exerting slight pressure over them can change their shape. May be I am sounded nonsense but comment anyway.
 
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