Women below 30 are shallow, and balding is unattractive. Deal with it.

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Beingbaldsucksass

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A bar is a horrible place for a non-aesthetic guy to try his confidence skills. You basically have to get beyond a womans natural barriers. She has to see you in action so to speak. Someone gave the (sound I think) advice to pick activities/jobs where there are lots of women around, and they can observe you in your element.

In a bar, a woman has to make a snap judgement, and it wont be favorable if you are not pretty.
Believe me this 1.65 bald guy will not attract anyone, despite the fact he has a nice face
 

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Yhea but that's not real attraction that's using a guy , that's not real love

I'm not talking about being rich...I mean if you go to college and get a job say working in an office as opposed to a loading dock you'll be more likely to attract a higher class of woman...and by that I mean more educated. Most women go to college nowadays and college grads usually seek out men who graduate college ie people more like themselves. Its also biology women who chose good providers survived out in the wild tbh
 

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Yhea but that's not real attraction that's using a guy , that's not real love

Not necessarily. I am not talking about just money. I am talking about what a man makes out of himself, his determination, his talent, his hard work over the years. Dont you think that in an ideal world real attraction would be based on what you have made out of yourself and your character, rather than what you look like on the outside?
 

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Yhea but that's not real attraction that's using a guy , that's not real love

you're trying to lump together two separate things, physical attraction and love isn't one and the same.

if she's with you because your look makes her feel attracted then you loose it, she dumps you.

that's not love either, man. such thing as true love is seldom found in this world.
 

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Not necessarily. I am not talking about just money. I am talking about what a man makes out of himself, his determination, his talent, his hard work over the years. Dont you think that in an ideal world real attraction would be based on what you have made out of yourself and your character, rather than what you look like on the outside?
Too bad we have to rely on hypothetical ideals that are shamefully detatched from reality to feel some semblance of justice. The mating game is still ultimately one big beauty pageant and you know it.
 

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You don't sound very happy. Sure girls like looks but they like confidence, security, and many things. Women are at different points in their life. Timing is important. Jude law is balding. Girls like him. Its not that bald is unattractive. A lot of insecure men are unattractive.
 
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You don't sound very happy. Sure girls like looks but they like confidence, security, and many things. Women are at different points in their life. Timing is important. Jude law is balding. Girls like him. Its not that bald is unattractive. A lot of insecure men are unattractive.

Stop using handsome HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES to further your argument, you idiot. Look around you. Women don't give a **** for "confidence". "Confidence" is their way of rationalizing the fact that they're attracted to a handsome guy to appear less shallow.

Why are a lot of insecure men unattractive? BECAUSE ugly men have been treated like doormats and **** for their entire lives by women. WHO THE **** is supposed to keep his head up confident after years of running head on into rejection from women who are holding out for mr. Perfect.

I know COUNTLESS ugly guys who are still extremely confident, outgoing, humorous. NONE of these factors come into play once a handsome guy walks into a room. It's almost as if the ugly guy is invisible. THere's no denying it. Keep deluding yourself and believing the bull**** your mom always told you.
 
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A confident funny guy will get something, even if it's harder for him, you gotta understand that girls has flaws too, I sew many bald guys with woman, an ugly bald guy is something else
 

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Stop using handsome HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES to further your argument, you idiot. Look around you. Women don't give a **** for "confidence". "Confidence" is their way of rationalizing the fact that they're attracted to a handsome guy to appear less shallow.

Why are a lot of insecure men unattractive? BECAUSE ugly men have been treated like doormats and **** for their entire lives by women. WHO THE **** is supposed to keep his head up confident after years of running head on into rejection from women who are holding out for mr. Perfect.

I know COUNTLESS ugly guys who are still extremely confident, outgoing, humorous. NONE of these factors come into play once a handsome guy walks into a room. It's almost as if the ugly guy is invisible. THere's no denying it. Keep deluding yourself and believing the bull**** your mom always told you.
True.
 

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So according to Macimate avarage guys and balding men should just give up on pretty women....
 

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Stop using handsome HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES to further your argument, you idiot. Look around you. Women don't give a **** for "confidence". "Confidence" is their way of rationalizing the fact that they're attracted to a handsome guy to appear less shallow.

Why are a lot of insecure men unattractive? BECAUSE ugly men have been treated like doormats and **** for their entire lives by women. WHO THE **** is supposed to keep his head up confident after years of running head on into rejection from women who are holding out for mr. Perfect.

I know COUNTLESS ugly guys who are still extremely confident, outgoing, humorous. NONE of these factors come into play once a handsome guy walks into a room. It's almost as if the ugly guy is invisible. THere's no denying it. Keep deluding yourself and believing the bull**** your mom always told you.

Everything you just said rings true but I will need to be convinced that it's not the handsome men that you are personally more interested in than the beautiful women.
 
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That's true only if your super ugly, if you have an ugly face in audition to your baldness then yes you are screwd, confidence or not, but not all bald guys are ugly just because they are bald, many are average looking some of them even super good looking (Tim Haward evertone keeper) uc man is not ugly,zero man is not ugly (according to the pics he posted) I'm pretty sure I'm not an ugly dude despite I'm only 1.70, my face is okay, I even like some of my facial features, that's helps me go on,

So overall none is Gonna be in that category you speaking off, of the ugly freak that no one can look at him, we're just average looking guys with baldness, uglyness is releted to face,

So confidence will play a big part for us as well as for the majority of man cuz really how much guys you see with everything perfect in them?
 

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That's true only if your super ugly, if you have an ugly face in audition to your baldness then yes you are screwd, confidence or not, but not all bald guys are ugly just because they are bald, many are average looking some of them even super good looking (Tim Haward evertone keeper) uc man is not ugly,zero man is not ugly (according to the pics he posted) I'm pretty sure I'm not an ugly dude despite I'm only 1.70, my face is okay, I even like some of my facial features, that's helps me go on,

So overall none is Gonna be in that category you speaking off, of the ugly freak that no one can look at him, we're just average looking guys with baldness, uglyness is releted to face,

So confidence will play a big part for us as well as for the majority of man cuz really how much guys you see with everything perfect in them?
haha thanks
 

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Do I have those strong features? Click on my profile to see if you want. The thing is I'm not afraid to admit I'm insecure; I worry about the smallest things when it comes to my appearance. I think this effects my body language; I do get a smile from girls at times but the body language just ****s everything up. Idk I guess you guys can look at my picture in my profile & let me know if I have strong features. If I do, then there's the conclusion: You could be good looking, yet if you're insecure it does tend to get in the way. Of course I'm working on the insecurity part lol; been through a tough 3 years so kind of trying to get back on track. ****'s hard though lol. But yeah I guess you could use me as an example? lol
 

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I agree with the OP, but people need to remember we are talking abut ugly guys getting with insanely hot girls here - it is that which is very hard if it impossible to come by. Just as it is an ugly girl getting with a good looking guy.

I have a friend who really isnt the best looking chap in the world, yet he gets with countless women with ease....his secret? - that hes getting with girls on a simular level to he is. Sometimes the girls are okish (good for him) on the other hand some are awful, he doesnt care at all, and thats why he gets laid so much.

I do believe with confidence (at the end of the day, if your not getting out there your not getting laid) men and woman are going to be able to get with people who are slightly better looking than themselves, but we are not talking massive differences here.

Ive proberbly come across as shallow myself here - funny that, its not just women.

Some interesting lines from the op though "Women have the power" well yes, if your a bang average guy sucking round a fit bird of course she does. But the same situation applies in reverse if a relatively ugly girl even dreams of getting with a good looking guy hes not going to give her a second thought when hes got far better to choose from. The OP has also made noises about "always seeing girls with better looking guys." while I dont spend alot of time analysing the the looks of guys, I cant say its something ive ever noticed.

If you wanna get laid, get with girls on your level - but confidence will certainly count. if you cant enjoy or bear the thought of getting with someone on the same level as you. Then your gonna have a hard time and your gonna have to deal with it.

Just my guess but I wonder if the OP is insecure about himself, and has he spent an awful lot of time thinking about getting with the 'best girls around' which is the driving force behind this thread I think.
 

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Women are More shallow then Men & here's why:

A list of things 80% of Women want in their Men whether it's short term or long term:
-Must be a specific height
-Must not be overweight
-Must have a good amount of hair
-Must make a specific amount of money
-Must have a really good car
-Must be popular and known among others
-And if all the above categories are true, then who really gives a **** about the personality lol

Now here's the guys list of what they want in a women for short term:
-Must be hot & able to bang (at least we're upfront about it)

Now here's the long term committed relationship for what 80% of men are looking for:
-Decent Looking
-Decent Personality
Only 2 things that's it.

Now till then guys lets just wait for that 20% to show up; they're out there I guess. But for now and short term, lets just do what we we're always upfront about. Try to get the hot girl to bed.

And they call us Animals; at least we're upfront lol.
 
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