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Wolf Pack

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I watched the segment and I think his advise was alright. He insisted there is a very small risk from medication and if you REALLY think you won't be bothered by it then you can go on with your life. Some people really don't care, they are a small minority but they exist. The advice about getting big is ridiculous though, he has no idea about genetics, steroids and stuff.

The only issue with this is the fact that this 25 year old has called in twice. So he is hanging onto Spencer's advice which shows not only is he not comfortable with shaving but also easily influenced.

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Full head of hair
Muscles
AttractI've face

All u need to score 9s.

Its as easy as that to nail dimes and be tindr famous

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U sure about that? I work in an oil town with mostly all men am still getting abut about 45-50% responce rate. Even having a decent amount message me first. Around 75 number rate when the conversations begins

Out of curiosity the ones i met in the passed I had them show me their accounts and they were flooded with messages. In a town that's predominately men i still manage to get within the last 3 days 8 number. Five of which I initiated the conversations.

Not everyone struggles like yoy want to believe.. but like you said I ain't an oil painting either :laugh:
 

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http://www.businessinsider.com/okcupid-hot-or-not-list-of-users-2013-9?IR=T

Can't believe you fell for that Fred. I mean seriously look at the message you pasted? It says "did you get a new haircut or something." Not only is this not applicable to you but shows it's a generic template message targeting most the men on there who happen to have hair. The haircut bit was to validate the message, but in your case it actually shows it's a bs message. Gimmicks online to encourage people to use their site. Seriously. This is low self esteem behaviour.

You would think by 25 you would actually be aware of your looks and able to judge objectively as well as accept it. In fact I think people on here have a better idea.
 
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It is mainly looks but havig catchy profile and something worthwhile to say aids in getting their attention also. These women are flooded with hundreds of messages so standing out and not looking like a weirdo stalker type does help with being successful.

This is my second round at online dating. First being when I made that thread back in March.
 

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Women ignore the message if it's stupid and generic. What u say matters, they have tons of options


Women don't want a novel message either.
 

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I often think I'm ugly. But then I look at my results: 50 first dates, 35 kisses (often on the first date), 15 different sexual partners (and I had my first time at 21).

Then there are the girls flirting with me, people telling me I'm handsome. Even gay guys try to hit on me. Were you implying that I should be aware that my value is low?

Of course I have low self-esteem, with balding at such a young age, how would it be different?

Problem with you is you look at it too rigidly. In terms of statistics, scientific evidence and your opinion therefore sways. Also you sometimes buy the hype either way. I am not saying there isn't a place for this but most people know roughly how they look without looking at things like what this girl said or that girl. Or what such and such a friend said. It all has biases.

In a real life setting, in a new place such as a club/wedding/coffee shop, if you get real but subtle attention unprovoked, it's the best way of knowing. Then how hot are the girls looking. Otherwise there are too many variables online, girls at work/uni e.t.c. It all has forms of bias. Also you really should have a good idea looking in the mirror. Literally all my friends know. My tall Norwood 0 mate says "he isn't the best looking guy" and he goes I accept it. He is below average as lacks good facial features. He won't make up some elaborate story about his thick hair saving him or his height e.t.c. He also has been with a lot of girls unlike me and my black mate who have been in relationships, yet we are considerably better looking. Not subtle bragging, just saying my story. I've had gay guys hit on me and decent looking women but again, I already know where I stand. So should you. I know I am above average but not like a model you see on billboards, that would be delusion. Compared to everyday guys I definitely hold an edge.

Looks are very instinctive and it can't fully be broken down into precise stuff.

You say you think you're ugly at times. I beg to differ. But I also don't agree when you give yourself a very high rating. I would say you are an average white guy.
 

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Man if you were handsome you would know it. Wouldnt be going around constantly questioning yourself,and your abilities to attract.

To be honest if women don't message you on dating applications I'd go as far as to say some one is average,and under.
 

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Just look like this

Its that easy

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FredTheBelgian;1257182 I often think I'm ugly. [/QUOTE said:
That's a strong word. Ugly, to me, means every feature on your face is as bad as it gets. Nothing is even average. Maybe a deformity could make a person ugly, and you are far from deformed looking, Fred.

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I just laugh at myself in the mirror cuz im so damn ugly.

The same goes for you. I doubt you think you're so ugly that you'd trade faces with everyone you know. I feel bad that you think so little of yourself.
 

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Just look like this

Its that easy

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Be careful Shooky, you may risk a ban on two grounds:

-Your bisexuality is showing again
-Continue to hide under the safety of your low Norwood

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Relationships are not an issue for bald people. Hair is more about looking your best, being in a more attractive position to choose partners, appear a dominant respected male in social circles, work e.t.c.
 

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I know, I was just answering EvilLocks question :)

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Ooops, I meant Exodus lol
well **** man, i got to give you props then. do the girls bring it up?

and you already have it worse than everyone here, i mean having one arms actually affects your FUNCTIONALITY not just your aesthetics . . . . :/

i had a cast on for a broken elbow for 2 months, that sucked

you said you were born with it right?
 

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JSmith, your courage honestly gets to me. Your family and friends are lucky to have someone like you. Did you know in America (I think) they carried out a hand transplant recently. It's been done a few times but people refuse to have one because psychologically apparently it's "very hard" having someone's hand/arm. One guy tried to cut his off after as he couldn't recognise it mentally, it scared him. Have you thought about an arm prosthesis of some sort? Are you on Finasteride by the way? It can make a huge difference.

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And Fred, if you're going to quote a study on paraplegics regarding happiness, then there should be one on bald people too. Not a generic disfigurement study like for burns victims.
 

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Something you would never hear as a bald man. People around me sometimes still laugh at my story: "5 months in psychiatry for hair? Come on, you were pretending the whole time right?!"

As for the study on bald people. No one cares about bald people, remember? No study has been done on them. Even if they were able to prove bald men were unhappy, the study would be dismissed by society.

It would only be dismissed because of bald/ing men themselves. The issue almost doesn't lye with society anymore than with the actual males who are to f'ing wimpy to actually say how they really feel.
Ive wanted to do this.
Take a room of bald men and make them fill out an anonymous questionnaire of random nonsensical lifestyle stuff. Throw in a few questions about baldness and being bald. See how they answer about being bald. Secretly have all the papers numbered tho so you know who is really filling out what.
1)are you bald/ing
2) has it negatively impacted your life and self esteem
3) would you take a miracle cure if you could
4) do you envy guys your age with good hair

THEN
Bring them all into a room to go over some of the questions. I bet more than HALF who answered yes to the ones above would deny they did so when in the company of the others to seem stronger.
As most of you may have figured out Im an unlikable, unliking, loudmouth and pretty much say what every vomits from my mouth with little regard. I find when Im in public people will change their tunes about things SO FAST once I open my mouth. Not because its "me" but because its just ONE MORE person who really feels the way they do but they were to afraid to say so and being ostracized.
Once you call the guys bluff out and tell them you KNOW how they really answered I bet their tunes would change and they would be more open to being honest.

Unless bald MEN actually MAN UP and start saying how much it frustrates them then there is no hope. They need to stop pretending theyre strong by denying and be stronger by admitting.
 

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Something you would never hear as a bald man. People around me sometimes still laugh at my story: "5 months in psychiatry for hair? Come on, you were pretending the whole time right?!"

As for the study on bald people. No one cares about bald people, remember? No study has been done on them. Even if they were able to prove bald men were unhappy, the study would be dismissed by society.

1) Rep system needs to be fixed/adjusted. I don't want to have to hand out rep like candy on Halloween just to be able to rep somebody again.

2) Good point Fred.
 

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It would only be dismissed because of bald/ing men themselves. The issue almost doesn't lye with society anymore than with the actual males who are to f'ing wimpy to actually say how they really feel.
Ive wanted to do this.
Take a room of bald men and make them fill out an anonymous questionnaire of random nonsensical lifestyle stuff. Throw in a few questions about baldness and being bald. See how they answer about being bald. Secretly have all the papers numbered tho so you know who is really filling out what.
1)are you bald/ing
2) has it negatively impacted your life and self esteem
3) would you take a miracle cure if you could
4) do you envy guys your age with good hair

THEN
Bring them all into a room to go over some of the questions. I bet more than HALF who answered yes to the ones above would deny they did so when in the company of the others to seem stronger.
As most of you may have figured out Im an unlikable, unliking, loudmouth and pretty much say what every vomits from my mouth with little regard. I find when Im in public people will change their tunes about things SO FAST once I open my mouth. Not because its "me" but because its just ONE MORE person who really feels the way they do but they were to afraid to say so and being ostracized.
Once you call the guys bluff out and tell them you KNOW how they really answered I bet their tunes would change and they would be more open to being honest.

Unless bald MEN actually MAN UP and start saying how much it frustrates them then there is no hope. They need to stop pretending theyre strong by denying and be stronger by admitting.

I have admitted many times hairloss bothered me as a teen, if i could choose to have hair now i would probably say yes cause some hairstlyes look cool, but honestly i would probably get bored of styling it, going to the hairdressers etc, going bald is honestly a blessing looking after it wise, i shave and boom im done and washing it is easier aswell, its just easier. Why i worried back then i never know, do i look better with hair? probably, but in all honestly do i give a damn? you bet your *** i dont, if im in denial its some deep *** denial or something cause i cant tell the difference with it and not caring.
 

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I think the reality is that your average bald guy hates losing hair but grudgingly accepts it and moves on. Hospital admittance must be very rare. Depression for some time yes. My cousin is bald as are others I know vaguely,they seem to function. I guess they are not the type to join forums. We value our hair more perhaps?

Only 7% of UK male pattern baldness sufferers bother with propecia or minoxidil. Tells u something.
 

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I think the reality is that your average bald guy hates losing hair but grudgingly accepts it and moves on. Hospital admittance must be very rare. Depression for some time yes. My cousin is bald as are others I know vaguely,they seem to function. I guess they are not the type to join forums. We value our hair more perhaps?


I never cared for my hair, if you saw my pics with it most of the time i looked like a beetles reject cause i never did anything with it, until i started losing it so i styled it to hide the fact i was losing it as a teen since i was worried i be dissed, some hairstyles look cool but i honestly like shaving it, i like the stubble feel and its just easier to maintain.
 
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