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[Jefferson Darcy]

Mr. Joachim, I've been lurking for awhile and I think that you were one of the 3 posters in the recent fight that got 2 people banned. Maybe the moderators finally caught up with you and banned you for your part in that fight. Just to let you know, I don't think you should have been banned for that reason or any other reason unless you violated some criminal law, but since the other 2 posters were banned for that fight it's only fair that you should also be banned for it. And really, if you were banned but you keep coming back anyway that makes you seem like a man with no pride.

lol. a man with no pride. who cares about that in an anonymous forum.
i also post some useful stuff here and there (like the lactate thing recently which could turn out as a nice surprise), so it's not like i'm comparable with other random members who got banned. in the history of this forum there was only 1 really ban-worthy user in the past (but i won't say his name, so let's just call him nameless). the other user who got banned as well was just unlucky and can be considered a collateral damage.

 

[Anna Thorpe]

lol. a man with no pride. who cares about that in an anonymous forum.
i also post some useful stuff here and there (like the lactate thing recently which could turn out as a nice surprise), so it's not like i'm comparable with other random members who got banned. in the history of this forum there was only 1 really ban-worthy user in the past (but i won't say his name, so let's just call him nameless). the other user who got banned as well was just unlucky and can be considered a collateral damage.

This is my last post to you. I think you were egging Mr. Nameless on and causing much of the fighting. Your proclamations now about your worthiness and innocence is like listening to a guilty defendant trying to trick a jury into believing he's innocent. I think you were fighting at least as much as the other 2 posters. But I also think all 3 of you posted useful information as well. And I think that whatever happened to one of you should have happened to all 3 of you. But I don't think any of you should have been banned though and I'm sure all 3 of you are better people when you aren't going crazy over hair loss. I think you should all be unbanned. Now I won't be responding to anymore of your posts because I'm not getting drug into your vortex of fighting. I just made this last post to you to let you know that you are not fooling me one bit with your proclamations about your worthiness and innocence. You're on ignore.

 

[Noisette]

What ? Joachim were banned ?? so many members are banned and it's so sad to see that.

I hope @Roberto_72 @Admin you will make something about that.

Joachim is a good member and he doesn't deserve a ban just because he is giving his opinion about a product...

Hairblues could be here too...

I hope this forum stay a great place. It will aim, on the one hand, at further promoting and protecting freedom of expression.

 

[Anna Thorpe]

What ? Joachim were banned ?? so many members are banned and it's so sad to see that.

I hope @Roberto_72 @Admin you will make something about that.

Joachim is a good member and he don't deserve a ban just because he is giving his opinion about a product...

Hairblues could be here too...

I hope this forum stay a great place. It will aim, on the one hand, at further promoting and protecting freedom of expression.

There were 3 people fighting it out equally. Why shouldn't they all get the same punishment? Punishment should be impartial without playing favorites.

 

[Noisette]

Yes of course. Everybody could give his opinion about something without the fear to be banned for that.
We can censured some posts but banning somebody for that, is an extreme solution.

Punishment is to be Bald not to be Ban.

 

[Jack Ito]

I seriously doubt that the western world will allow Japan to be the only country in the world hit by an atomic bomb, and TWICE. I wouldn't sweat it.

If Japan gets hit by an atomic bomb guess that's bye bye Shisiedo

 

[Anna Thorpe]

Yes of course. Everybody could give his opinion about something without the fear to be banned for that.
We can censured some posts but banning somebody for that, is an extreme solution.

Punishment is to be Bald not to be Ban.

I don't think he would be banned for expressing his opinion in a reasonable way. If he was banned for expressing his opinion about a product then he must have gone overboard and posted rude things about the people involved in the product or something like that. I don't think he's telling the whole story. He white-washes his nasty behavior. I've read some of his posts and he can be very rude and vulgar. Or maybe he was banned for when he was fighting with those other 2 posters. None of them should have been banned for that but if any one of them was banned then all 3 of them should have been banned. He was posting just as much smack-talk as they were so I figured he would get banned for his part in the fighting. All's well that ends well.

 

[Anna Thorpe]

If Japan gets hit by an atomic bomb guess that's bye bye Shisiedo

Isn't all of that technological info stored on computers?

 

[thomps1523]

There were 3 people fighting it out equally. Why shouldn't they all get the same punishment? Punishment should be impartial without playing favorites.

@Anna Thorpe i see you said you were a lurker, but perhaps you weren't lurking enough to notice how irrational nameless was. I quit coming because of how immature he acted. A few years ago a scientist was on the other balding site answering questions... he was on merely to be kind, and give answers if possible, but was literally driven away by nameless barraging him with nonsense. He has done the same to so many in here, that I think many applauded Joachim for going after nameless, and treating him as the child he was acting like!

Nameless started threads about how nobody should donate to the conference, and about him wanting refunds for his donations. Joachim has contributed, and produced thought out material... in your mind who should stay?

 

[Jefferson Darcy]

@Anna Thorpe i see you said you were a lurker, but perhaps you weren't lurking enough to notice how irrational nameless was. I quit coming because of how immature he acted. A few years ago a scientist was on the other balding site answering questions... he was on merely to be kind, and give answers if possible, but was literally driven away by nameless barraging him with nonsense. He has done the same to so many in here, that I think many applauded Joachim for going after nameless, and treating him as the child he was acting like!

Nameless started threads about how nobody should donate to the conference, and about him wanting refunds for his donations. Joachim has contributed, and produced thought out material... in your mind who should stay?

that's right, you're one of the few members who know the full truth and history of the nameless fiasco, which was lasting for more than 5 years.
back then it was dr. aaron gardner who got pissed off by nameless. for a few hours we were so lucky to have a hairloss researcher taking time answering questions and giving us useful insight and background details, but then nameless came with his nonsense and dr. gardner just left the forum without even saying a word.

 

[Jefferson Darcy]

Isn't all of that technological info stored on computers?

yes it is, and luckily japanese computers and server centers are indestructible, so that nuclear bombs just bounce off.

 

[Jefferson Darcy]

the absolute crazy thing about all that banning is that even all created threads from a banned person disappear.
so many posts and info gets lost this way.

 

[Jonnyyy]

I'm so fucked if Tsuji doesn't find a way to make all of this work ou, I'm putting too much hope on him.

 

[Jefferson Darcy]

I'm so fucked if Tsuji doesn't find a way to make all of this work ou, I'm putting too much hope on him.

i hate to think about it, but there is a real chance that rogue rocket-man kimmy loses his mind and throws the bombs over japan. the country will then be in chaos for many years, the fukushima disaster is peanuts compared to that.
depending on where the bombs hit, it's definitely possible that Riken dissapears from the landscape, including many great researchers. Riken is too secretive to have prepared backup plans or even stored confidential material on another country's server. if riken and its related researchers get hit, then hairloss research in japan is stalled for at least a decade. what irony would that be, having the cure so near, but then again taken away by the fat little kid from NoKo.

 

[Roberto_72]

Roberto, it's me, Joachim. You banned me for expressing my free opinion (that it looks like the apple juice company is a scam and all of a sudden being protected by the forum now). Well, how could it not look like that? You deleted all critical posts against the apple juice company and now even started banning people for that. You even locked the thread so that nobody can raise a critical voice anymore. And then you're telling us that anybody who thinks you're protecting the company is foolish? You can't be serious, really. You probably just had a bad day, and I'm sorry for that. And I also know that there is no financial interest involved, but that doesn't change the fact that the forum is heavily censoring in favor of the apple juice company, at least in that other thread.
But let's not become like the bald-truth-forum. Censorship like this destroyed their site, und you're starting to do the same with this site now.

So let's shake hands and forget about all that. If you don't agree with that, you can ban this account too, of course, and delete this message quickly, before other users see it. I wouldn't mind, because I will simply come back anyway with other user names under different IPs and ask you the same question again, until I receive an answer.
But I suggest you respond to that reasonably, and also deactivate the ban on my account, to get things back to normal. I'm not interested in making any trouble.

Thank you

I will just write this:

You were banned because you wrote sentences suggesting this forum is rigged. You wrote: "so now even here the scam is given a protected platform. shameful and disgusting."

The fact you are back here after a few hours with a duplicate account and threaten to create account after account (with different IPs) despite the rules of the forum shows you are not a person who respects the rules of the communities you want to join. You are basically threatening to harass the forum and you wonder why you were banned.

 

[Anna Thorpe]

I will just write this:

You were banned because you wrote sentences suggesting this forum is rigged. You wrote: "so now even here the scam is given a protected platform. shameful and disgusting."

The fact you are back here after a few hours with a duplicate account and threaten to create account after account (with different IPs) despite the rules of the forum shows you are not a person who respects the rules of the communities you want to join. You are basically threatening to harass the forum and you wonder why you were banned.

Roberto, No disrespect but I hope I can say something here. Joachim did indicate that the site is rigged. I see it that way too. But a lot of people are getting banned and it seems noteworthy that this is happening as we're getting closer to the congress. I'm kind of thinking that the stress of wanting the congress to arrive is pushing some people over the edge. It's your decision who does and doesn't get banned but I do want to say that the people who come here start out angry and stressed, and now they're sitting on pins and needles waiting for the congress. Waiting can be rough. I'd just like to ask that you lift the bans on posters because the congress is almost here and even if a complete cure isn't announced it's obvious that there will be enough progress that all of the posters will soon be somewhat relieved and somewhat more pleasant. I think all of the hostility we've been seeing is coming from having to wait for the congress to arrive. Virtually all of the posters are stressed and some people handle stress worse than others is all.

Thanks for considering my request that all of the recent bans be lifted.

 

[Janks16]

Roberto, it's me, Joachim. You banned me for expressing my free opinion (that it looks like the apple juice company is a scam and all of a sudden being protected by the forum now). Well, how could it not look like that? You deleted all critical posts against the apple juice company and now even started banning people for that. You even locked the thread so that nobody can raise a critical voice anymore. And then you're telling us that anybody who thinks you're protecting the company is foolish? You can't be serious, really. You probably just had a bad day, and I'm sorry for that. And I also know that there is no financial interest involved, but that doesn't change the fact that the forum is heavily censoring in favor of the apple juice company, at least in that other thread.
But let's not become like the bald-truth-forum. Censorship like this destroyed their site, und you're starting to do the same with this site now.

So let's shake hands and forget about all that. If you don't agree with that, you can ban this account too, of course, and delete this message quickly, before other users see it. I wouldn't mind, because I will simply come back anyway with other user names under different IPs and ask you the same question again, until I receive an answer.
But I suggest you respond to that reasonably, and also deactivate the ban on my account, to get things back to normal. I'm not interested in making any trouble.

Thank you

It wasn't your critical voice that got you banned. It was your bitter, offensive attitude and the manner in which you criticized. You seem to take no responsibility for your actions. And yet, here you are, in spite of being banned, you've created another account on the forum so that you can continue the same bombastic behavior. It seems that you don't have the ability to reflect.

 

[Jefferson Darcy]

I will just write this:

You were banned because you wrote sentences suggesting this forum is rigged. You wrote: "so now even here the scam is given a protected platform. shameful and disgusting."

You cannot handle civil discussions without insulting those who disagree with you.

The fact you are back here after a few hours with a duplicate account and threaten to create account after account (with different IPs) despite the rules of the forum shows you are not a person who respects the rules of the communities you want to join.

well, i'm glad you responded.

i have to admit, my wording was definitely a bit provocative, although i didn't expect it to be received as a dramatic attack against the forum.

first of all, i'm just pissed seeing another scammer pop up every new month, selling snake oil and getting rich with it. exposed scammers deserve jail-time and public exposure, but we all know such thing will never happen and scammers get away all the time.

also, it came very surprising to me to see you building up a defense wall and censoring/deleting posts, even it was only for the purpose to keep the dialog with the company alive, considering they were already caught cheating with their pics and finding lame excuses for it.
and we also know that the italian forum admins started to censor their forum as well in favor of the apple juice company.

so after seeing a similar censorship behaviour happening in this forum i just felt the need to express my thoughts even if it came across provocative.

but again, banning people or deleting posts in such cases will never be a solution. it just creates an image of censorship in favor of a potential scam.

if you are interested in providing the apple juice company (or any other future new company with a potential new treatment) a way to safely introduce and explain their products without being attacked, you or another trusted member needs to do the communication with them, and invite them to a moderated/restricted thread where nobody is able to attack them.
on the other side, let's say in another thread, you should let members express their thoughts censor-free, even if those comments are negative towards that company. if they want to sell something and can't deal with critical comments and concerns expressed by forum members, it's a write-off anyway. but if the product turns out to be the real deal, the news will spread quickly and the negative comments will become totally irrelevant. we all know the chance for this happening is like 0.1% at best. so the burden is still on them, like it should be.

being cautios and sceptical is the better strategy than just giving every new potential scammer company a free pass to spread their snake oil, considering the hundrets of scams we have seen in the last 10 years alone.

after all, i hope you understand my behavior and accept my explanation and revoke the ban, so that also the disappeared threads come back again.

thanks.

 

[Anna Thorpe]

@Anna Thorpe i see you said you were a lurker, but perhaps you weren't lurking enough to notice how irrational nameless was. I quit coming because of how immature he acted. A few years ago a scientist was on the other balding site answering questions... he was on merely to be kind, and give answers if possible, but was literally driven away by nameless barraging him with nonsense. He has done the same to so many in here, that I think many applauded Joachim for going after nameless, and treating him as the child he was acting like!

Nameless started threads about how nobody should donate to the conference, and about him wanting refunds for his donations. Joachim has contributed, and produced thought out material... in your mind who should stay?

I get it, you don't like Nameless for some reason. And you want punishment to be used against people you dislike but not against people that you do like, which is the kind of logic that has led to innocent people being jailed for crimes they didn't commit and guilty people walking the streets committing more crimes. But bannings shouldn't be based on who you do and don't like, or popularity contests. Bannings should be based on infractions. If one person commits an infraction and gets banned for it then anyone who commits that same infraction should also get banned for it. That's simple equity and fairness.

All 3 of them were all fighting equally and all 3 of them were starting fights with each other constantly. And no matter how you rationalize Joachim's smack-talk against them they all did the same infraction. You want to give Joachim a get out of jail free card on his infraction because you like him and you want to put Nameless in jail for the same infraction because you don't like him for some reason.

I saw Nameless's posts that people shouldn't contributions to the congress. That really burned me up a lot because I thought it might kill the trip to the congress, but I also kind of agreed with his point that some posters were trying to take advantage of other posters so I didn't know how to feel about it. And wait a minute, you're one of the people Nameless accused of taking advantage of other posters and so this explains why you dislike him and why you're badmouthing him now. You have some anger about the things he said about you and so you have no credibility in this matter. I'm not being drug into your anger-induced bullying of another bald victim who isn't even here to defend himself. I'm going to ignore you.

I'm glad the HairLossTalk.com trip to the Congress is going forward. All 3 of them posted useful information at times. All 3 of them contributed. People who come here are upset so they say a lot of things they wouldn't say if they found some hope.

 

[d3nt3dsh0v3l]

The fact you are back here after a few hours with a duplicate account and threaten to create account after account (with different IPs) despite the rules of the forum shows you are not a person who respects the rules of the communities you want to join. You are basically threatening to harass the forum and you wonder why you were banned.

Hear! Hear!

I'm so glad that you did not let that irony slip. I just don't understand why people on here always bicker about logic but never fess up to the issue at hand, which is acting like a barbarian. What kind of nut threatens to keep coming back with changed IPs? Chill out. But I did chuckle at exactly that - the accusations of unfair treatment followed by a threat to stalk. Can't make this stuff up.