@MyThinningConfidence Do you think that scrunching the scalp increases blood flow or should I actually move my scalp with two hands???Because I get immense pleasure when I scrunch my temples and the whole scalp and I am kinda lazy too..But I try to do it for 20-20=40mins for most of the days...
I Am Actually Regrowing My Hair + Hairline Without Min Or finasteride (mechanical Stimulation)
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I tend to forcefully scrunch the scalp with two hands, I think that classes as moving the scalp so I'm not entirely sure on the difference you're asking. If you're doing forceful scrunches with a pleasurable sensation you are probably doing the massages correctly, have you heard any crunching or cracking sounds?
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That's so nice of you to say, hoping I regrow all my hair too haha although balding so early into my teens I don't even know what
"all my hair" even is as I don't have too many early pictures.
I do exactly what you said.I put on my earphone and tune on my favourte songs and deeply scrunch from temples to upper portion of crown(which is the hardest and from there I lose most)with two fingers of both hands and I get to feel like doing it more and more unless my hands feel pain.And yea I figured out that I feel crunching or cracking sound on my left temple which is kindly more diffused than right one.But that sound is I guess of the veins of the temples which gets moved when I massage vigorously
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The crunching is actually most likely to be fluid from edema which is swelling but it does sound like you're doing it right, I feel it's sort of hard to describe the massages perfectly over words. I'd probably need to make a video to really explain it but then I'd need to figure out a way to censor my face and a site to host it haha, I don't particularly want to create an alt Youtube for a single video upload. This is the closest thing that I could ever find that describes how I do it.
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Attached an annotated photo of baseline and expected regrowth that I took sometime ago, the second picture is the front of my hair showing a thick patch of new terminal hairs starting to form along with the final picture of my right temple taken today.
It's super slow but eventual, probably the slowest month I've had yet since I got really lazy with the microneedling and the massages at one point, I bought a 140 needle 2mm derma stamp and it just isn't working ideally, I was seeing better results with my 1.5mm 192 roller and I think that just comes down to its ability to penetrate. Haven't used the roller since September due it being dirty and wanting to avoid infection, never got around to buying some Isopropyl alchohol to clean it. Currently waiting on a derma pen to arrive, I'll probably do some weekly updates once that comes. When I was rolling with the 1.5mm I was seeing new hairs popping up within the week.
It's super slow but eventual, probably the slowest month I've had yet since I got really lazy with the microneedling and the massages at one point, I bought a 140 needle 2mm derma stamp and it just isn't working ideally, I was seeing better results with my 1.5mm 192 roller and I think that just comes down to its ability to penetrate. Haven't used the roller since September due it being dirty and wanting to avoid infection, never got around to buying some Isopropyl alchohol to clean it. Currently waiting on a derma pen to arrive, I'll probably do some weekly updates once that comes. When I was rolling with the 1.5mm I was seeing new hairs popping up within the week.
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December Update
Current progress on my hair, probably the slowest regrowth I've had on my hairline yet but it's still coming along nicely. I barely microneedled these past two months due to my roller being dirty and having ordered a dermastamp which was late taking a month to ship and being terrible quality. Really need to just go get some isopropyl alcohol to soak the roller in but all I have currently is wipes. I do have a cheap Dermapen on the way though which I'll be testing and doing weekly updates with once it's here, when I first started rolling with the 1.5mm I was seeing new growth by the week so the pen should be exciting, I did want to get the Derminator 2 instead but didn't want to wait the 6-10weeks it takes to ship from the UK to AUS especially around Christmas time. I was hoping to have presentable hair by now but after my most recent haircut I literally have a bowl cut and I'm really hoping I outgrow it soon, I can't go any shorter due to a large forehead and receded temples sadly but the temples are seriously starting to fill in now. The regrowth isn't as long as the rest so it falls down and gives the illusion of filled in temples which dramatically improves the appearance of them.
Hair Overall -https://imgur.com/a/2RHl4NE
Hairline - https://imgur.com/a/mR54MlN
Current progress on my hair, probably the slowest regrowth I've had on my hairline yet but it's still coming along nicely. I barely microneedled these past two months due to my roller being dirty and having ordered a dermastamp which was late taking a month to ship and being terrible quality. Really need to just go get some isopropyl alcohol to soak the roller in but all I have currently is wipes. I do have a cheap Dermapen on the way though which I'll be testing and doing weekly updates with once it's here, when I first started rolling with the 1.5mm I was seeing new growth by the week so the pen should be exciting, I did want to get the Derminator 2 instead but didn't want to wait the 6-10weeks it takes to ship from the UK to AUS especially around Christmas time. I was hoping to have presentable hair by now but after my most recent haircut I literally have a bowl cut and I'm really hoping I outgrow it soon, I can't go any shorter due to a large forehead and receded temples sadly but the temples are seriously starting to fill in now. The regrowth isn't as long as the rest so it falls down and gives the illusion of filled in temples which dramatically improves the appearance of them.
Hair Overall -https://imgur.com/a/2RHl4NE
Hairline - https://imgur.com/a/mR54MlN
Okay man.I have seen his video before.My scalp is losse after doing the massage for 20days and I am shedding less but it is no where near that loose:0
I am thinking how much pressure my fingers will bear to get the scalp that much loose
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Minoxidil is certainly an effective way to regrow hair, especially when combined with microneedling but it's just not for me. It's expensive, literally $50 a month here for the foam which means I'd have to get the liquid which is still expensive (cheapest I can find is $44 for a 3 month supply) for someone who can't even afford to go to University it's not ideal. The main downside to the liquid is that it's more difficult and time consuming to apply and takes a long time to dry, I'm lazy and I just want to put it in and go to sleep except if I do that it'd rub off onto my pillows and sheets and have potential negative consequences on my face. There are a lot of anecdotal reports of dark circles, water retention and wrinkles and in theory minoxidil inhibits collagen production although there are no in-vivo studies about it sadly. At that point I'd rather buy a wig and be done with it than trade my face for my hair. You can minimize the harm by just being careful with your application but it just seems like a lot for me considering the price and the one last major factor. Why do I want hair if I have to have minoxidil in it almost 24/7 making it all greasy? Once my hair had actually regrew I'd probably get lazy and also start skipping applications so my hair appears better when going out and I know that'd likely end very badly, it's just too much of a commitment for me between the sheds and dependency. I'd honestly rather just spend more money and get on dutasteride since if it wasn't over double the price of quartered finasteride, I'd be on it right now.
It's already looking like I might be able to regrow it all back plus more than I even remember having, I think my current regime is working well for me personally and I do understand that minoxidil would likely help me fill in my temples better but I'd rather just keep things inexpensive and simple rather than complicating it with minoxidil.
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If it hurts your fingers you could probably ease up, it should start to loosen up the longer you do it. Here's some pictures I took of my scalp a few months ago to give you an idea how loose my scalp ended up. I'm unsure if loosening up the scalp is necessary but I'm under the impression it is beneficial towards regrowing your hair.
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Dermpapen arrived today and I'm impressed at the quality considering it's a cheap Chinese product, it also shipped very fast, was well packaged and came with a bonus 10 needle heads for only $50 AUD. I only went up to 1.75mm as I want to test it slowly as it is a relatively cheap Chinese device that has potential to cause damage. So far there was minimal bleeding and pain which either means it wasn't correctly penetrating or it's actually penetrating better and more cleanly resulting in less damage and pain. My scalp feels more like I rolled with a 0.5mm roller and I can actually massage my scalp fully directly after microneedling.
Hopefully it is actually just penetrating more cleanly since that minimizes the downtime for the healing window in microneedling which will allow me to maximize regrowth potential.
So after a few hours and trying to massage again the scalp is more sore now but nothing major, definitely feels like it penetrated well enough on the temples. So far I'm seeing this to be a good amount superior to a dermaroller and stamp for a variety of reasons. In the past I noticed regrowth to begin around 8 days so hopefully I have some new hairs to show then. If this is working as intended I can see it giving me better results than just the roller so I'm hoping for a patch of regrowth to begin a NW2.5 for Christmas. Fairly exciting really, I'll probably do some weekly updates to see if I'm regrowing well, intending to step up to 2mm next week and possibly 2.25 and 2.5mm beyond that.
Hopefully it is actually just penetrating more cleanly since that minimizes the downtime for the healing window in microneedling which will allow me to maximize regrowth potential.
So after a few hours and trying to massage again the scalp is more sore now but nothing major, definitely feels like it penetrated well enough on the temples. So far I'm seeing this to be a good amount superior to a dermaroller and stamp for a variety of reasons. In the past I noticed regrowth to begin around 8 days so hopefully I have some new hairs to show then. If this is working as intended I can see it giving me better results than just the roller so I'm hoping for a patch of regrowth to begin a NW2.5 for Christmas. Fairly exciting really, I'll probably do some weekly updates to see if I'm regrowing well, intending to step up to 2mm next week and possibly 2.25 and 2.5mm beyond that.
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How many months after you started massaging you achieved this kind of looseness??
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how many months have passed since you started scalp massaging? and if you have dandruff? 2 month have passed since i started scalp massaging and i still have dandruff, if i don't do scalp massage i don't have dandruff and i wonder if you have experienced like this
Anyway, i can't see yet any result after 2 month of massaging
yes, the scalp is really pliable and flexible(not as much as the topic author's scalp) since i started the massage, i really feel it, but i still have the lots of dandruff while massaging, also i gave up on every kind of shampoo so far, i will wait for more several month and if dandruff don't stop i will start using the Nizoral shampoo
which shampoo do you use?
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My guess is that you aren't correctly cleaning your scalp, the reason scalp massages reduces dandruff is that dandruff is caused by fungus/bacteria that feeds off sebum. Your best bet is to add either zinc pyrithione or ketoconazole to your regime to best combat the fungus. I used to have rather bad dandruff and seb derm, I've attached a picture of dandruff flakes that had fallen off onto my drawing tablet after only a few hours of being on the computer. It was taken Feb 21st. I have virtually no dandruff these days.
You will definitely need to be using some form of shampoo if you're wanting to get rid of dandruff. Shampoos containing either zinc pyrithione or ketoconazole are best so that would be Nizoral for keto. Zinc pyrith is found in a lot of anti dandruff shampoos, just check the bottle.
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woooooow, it looks really amazingDecember 8th left and right temple, looks like I'll have a new hairline for Christmas
do you think that it is the result of dermaroller?
when i read some articles about hair loss, there are so many written about that if hair does not grow anymore it means that follicles are dead but, man, you really break that opinion and i am really happy about that
Can you please describe your full regemin in detail? If you have already done do, please tell me the page #?..do you dermaroll hairline only? Thank you good work.December 8th left and right temple, looks like I'll have a new hairline for Christmas