A Closer Look At: Atherosclerosis & Heart Disease.

OverMachoGrande

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aussieavodart said:
I think pasteurized, unfermented dairy is probably one of the one worst things you can eat


I agree and here's a good reason why.


Re: Endogenous Sex Hormones and Prostate Cancer: A Collaborative Analysis of 18 Prospective Studies
F. William Danby
Affiliation of author: Adjunct Assistant Professor of Medicine (Dermatology), Dartmouth Medical School, Hanover, NH

Correspondence to: F. William Danby, MD, FRCPC, 721 Chestnut Street, Manchester, Hanover, NH 03104-3002 (e-mail: fwdljm@tds.net).

Steroid hormone concentrations do not appear to be associated with the risk of prostate cancer (1). A parallel disconnect between the laboratory and the disorder itself exists for acne, and a further parallel may extend to etiology. The link between dairy foods and acne, which was made originally by Bulkley in 1885 in 1500 patients, was confirmed by Fisher (2) in his 1965 study of 1000 patients. Recent work (3,4) links acne with diet in two ways—through its association with skim milk and dairy products (presumably by supplying exogenous androgen precursors) and through high glycemic load diets (presumably by inducing supra-physiological levels of insulin-like growth factor 1 and thus raising testosterone availability). Darling et al. (5) identified testosterone, progesterone, and two 5-reduced dihydrotestosterone precursors (5-androstanedione and 5-pregnanedione) in cow milk. Associations between prostate cancer and dairy have been reported (6), but what thread links all four—that is, prostate cancer, acne, dairy, and exogenous precursors and stimulators of androgen?

The enzymes that convert dairy precursors to dihydrotestosterone are located in both the pilosebaceous unit and prostate gland. Dihydrotestosterone appears to be the principal androgen responsible for both prostate and pilosebaceous growth. Some experts, however, consider that an age-related decline in the production of testosterone is responsible for loss of prostate homeostasis, which allows dihydrotestosterone to act as a carcinogen. I suggest that the chronic stimulation by dihydrotestosterone further destabilizes prostate homeostasis and thus increases the risk of prostate cancer.

Dietary androgens may have two roles. The first is as pathogens. The human prostate evolved in the absence of exogenous dairy androgens, and the negative feedback loop that controls endogenous glucocorticoids has no parallel inhibitory feedback loop for ingested 5-reduced hormones and precursors (Figure 1). Their unopposed impact on pilosebaceous and prostate glands may explain the epidemiological associations of dairy with acne, prostate cancer, and even breast cancer. Androgens’ second role may be to effect the persistence or recurrence of prostate cancer. The hypothesis of androgen-driven prostate cancer has led to use of specific strategies and medications to lower androgen levels, including orchi(d)ectomy and treatment with finasteride and dutasteride. However, metastatic prostate tumor cells contain enzymes that mediate intracrine production of dihydrotestosterone from precursors derived from dairy products; this dihydrotestosterone may support the survival of the tumor. Patients with metastatic prostate cancer often consume dairy products as an increasing percentage of the diet, and this practice may thus be more detrimental than beneficial.

REFERENCES


1. Roddam AW, Allen NE, Appleby P, Key TJ. Endogenous sex hormones and prostate cancer: a collaborative analysis of 18 prospective studies. J Natl Cancer Inst (2008) 100(3):170–183.[Abstract/Free Full Text]

2. Fisher JK. Acne Vulgaris; A Study of One Thousand Cases (1966) Available from: http://www.acnemilk.com/fisher_s_original_paper.

3. Adebamowo CA, Spiegelman D, Danby FW, Frazier AL, Willett WC, Holmes MD. High school dietary dairy intake and teenage acne. J Am Acad Dermatol (2005) 52(2):207–214.[CrossRef][Web of Science][Medline]

4. Smith RN, Mann NJ, Braue A, Makelainen H, Varigos GA. The effect of a high-protein, low glycemic-load diet versus a conventional, high glycemic-load diet on biochemical parameters associated with acne vulgaris: a randomized, investigator-masked, controlled trial. J Am Acad Dermatol (2007) 57(2):247–256.[CrossRef][Web of Science][Medline]

5. Darling JA, Laing AH, Harkness RA. A survey of the steroids in cows’ milk. J Endocrinol (1974) 62(2):291–297.[Abstract/Free Full Text]

6. Kurahashi N, Inoue M, Iwasaki M, Sasazuki S, Tsugane AS. Dairy product, saturated fatty acid, and calcium intake and prostate cancer in a prospective cohort of Japanese men. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev (2008) 17(4):930–937.[Abstract/Free Full Text]

7. Carpenter WR, Robinson WR, Godley PA. Getting over testosterone: postulating a fresh start for etiologic studies of prostate cancer. J Natl Cancer Inst (2008) 100(3):158–159.[Free Full Text]
 

Bryan

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JLL said:
So are you suggesting a diet low in all fat or a diet low in saturated fat but moderate-to-high in unsaturated fat? Because PUFAs are precisely the fatty acids that are prone to oxidation and therefore to increase the number of oxidized LDL particles. Saturated fat is much less prone to oxidation.

That's an outstandingly good point! As Durk Pearson & Sandy Shaw have pointed out, oxidized fat is mutagenic, thrombogenic, atherogenic, and carcinogenic (whew!). Beware of people who tell you in a simple-minded fashion to replace all dietary saturated fats with unsaturated ones. It's a LOT more complicated than just that.
 

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JLL said:
So are you suggesting a diet low in all fat or a diet low in saturated fat but moderate-to-high in unsaturated fat? Because PUFAs are precisely the fatty acids that are prone to oxidation and therefore to increase the number of oxidized LDL particles. Saturated fat is much less prone to oxidation.

Not polyunsaturated vegetable oils like canola. But natural fats like nuts and seeds, which have tons of anti-oxidants to prevent lipid oxidation.
 

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To those of you who think that you can judge a persons health by there hair,
I was watching international level soccer last night, and there were several balding 20 year old players. If you think good fitness or poor fitness is a predictor of balding, you're crazy. There are unfit bums with great hair, and bums with no hair, etc. I know massively obese people with diabetes that have great hair, and people with fantastic blood work with very little hair.
 

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#1Diet has a far larger impact on the health of the body than any exercise ever will or can.
#2Any time an animal consumes a food, it is supposed to be consumed with anti-oxidants as found in nature.

Human eat foods as if they are trying to obtain disease LOL

All fat are not created equal
Different genetic types require different ratios of macro nutrients.

For instance I am very sensative to fats, however I can eat all the carbs I want as long as there is no fat with it.
 
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