Abstinence is the major weapon in defeating hair loss!!!!

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Every time I relapsed, at the begining of noFap, my scalp would get inflamed, itchy for 3-7 days. Now, after almost 2 years, if I relapse I would only get minor itch for a day or less and my scalp is never inflamed.
I agree with Bagel, it takes time for all the hormones to check back in order. As the guys from yourbrainonporn would say- it needs to "reboot." Of course, it differs from from man to man how long it takes..

how is your hair today?
 

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Dopamine is the new DHT
 

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how is your hair today?

In contrast to pre-nofap: scalp less oily, hair overall thicker, darker. Temples recesion stopped (or at least extremly slowed). In years 2011-2012, I lost min.1cm of temples, some random hair stayed on my "old" hairline- extra long vellus(?) hair(0.5-2cm long) is growing in that area now.
I was losing 20-40 hair in shower back then, 0-10 now. I know its not the proper indicator but when ever my hair looked like ****, I was losing tons of hair in shower.
 

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In contrast to pre-nofap: scalp less oily, hair overall thicker, darker. Temples recesion stopped (or at least extremly slowed). In years 2011-2012, I lost 1cm of temples, some random hair stayed on my "old" hairline- extra long vellus(?) hair(0.5-2cm long) is growing in that area now.

are u still having sex? what is your regimen now? pretty interesting.
 

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are u still having sex? what is your regimen now? pretty interesting.

Agree.. Its funny- before nofap, my hair was light brown, sometimes with blonde highlights. I actually liked that "surfer look." Now, its dark dark brown. Last summer, when I came back home my buddies were asking me if I was dying my hair. :)

About sex: I was VERY sexually active last 10years or so. Always had hot girlfriends, always horny as ****, fapped daily (about 30-50orgasms/month). Now- I'm single, still having sex occasionally and I dont think it affects my hair...actually, after good sex I'm "good to go" for a couple of weeks..

Regimen? none. Standard hair vitamines, calcium+d3, nettle tea-2cups daily, using pumpkin seed oil.
 

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Our whole biological goal in life is to find a woman and procreate. No matter what you say, this is the biological goal. The fact that you value your hair more than sex with a woman is pretty scary dude.

LOL now you tell what kind of spirit you are.
There is no such thing as "biological goal".
You are doing something out of habit (here: drive); in this particular case because you are descendant of those that did so before you, crafted by mutation and selection.
Seeking female is by no means mandatory; but simply drive. Like seeking sugar.
Valuing hair over sex is a rational decision made because of the social impact (of looking sick) and the impact on the
sense of self.

From my standpoint (experience) there are many wrong conceptions brought forward here. For me the case "all in moderation" is not valid; nor is there a difference between sex with a partner and auto-stimulation. Frequency - yes, the more you do the worse it gets (obviously with a cut-off level - however I have not tested how bad is worst).
Also it cannot be stressed enough: this anomaly does not affect everyone, nor does it per se cause male pattern baldness. It may exacerbate symptoms in those with disposition. And it is not specific to hair. It also affects skin (especially in areas where there a sebaceous glands), but also the body as a whole. Kind of inflammatory reaction.




 
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Agree.. Its funny- before nofap, my hair was light brown, sometimes with blonde highlights. I actually liked that "surfer look." Now, its dark dark brown. Last summer, when I came back home my buddies were asking me if I was dying my hair. :)

About sex: I was VERY sexually active last 10years or so. Always had hot girlfriends, always horny as ****, fapped daily (about 30-50orgasms/month). Now- I'm single, still having sex occasionally and I dont think it affects my hair...actually, after good sex I'm "good to go" for a couple of weeks..

Regimen? none. Standard hair vitamines, calcium+d3, nettle tea-2cups daily, using pumpkin seed oil.

hang in there mate *patting your shoulders"

if drgs is passing by , I am curious : except for the beard what did it bring to you?
 

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Agree.. Its funny- before nofap, my hair was light brown, sometimes with blonde highlights. I actually liked that "surfer look." Now, its dark dark brown. Last summer, when I came back home my buddies were asking me if I was dying my hair. :)

About sex: I was VERY sexually active last 10years or so. Always had hot girlfriends, always horny as ****, fapped daily (about 30-50orgasms/month). Now- I'm single, still having sex occasionally and I dont think it affects my hair...actually, after good sex I'm "good to go" for a couple of weeks..

Regimen? none. Standard hair vitamines, calcium+d3, nettle tea-2cups daily, using pumpkin seed oil.

Doubt it.

LOL now you tell what kind of spirit you are.
There is no such thing as "biological goal".
You are doing something out of habit (here: drive); in this particular case because you are descendant of those that did so before you, crafted by mutation and selection.
Seeking female is by no means mandatory; but simply drive. Like seeking sugar.
Valuing hair over sex is a rational decision because of the social impact (of looking sick) and the impact on the sense of self.

Even bigger LOL.
 

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Agree.. Its funny- before nofap, my hair was light brown, sometimes with blonde highlights. I actually liked that "surfer look." Now, its dark dark brown. Last summer, when I came back home my buddies were asking me if I was dying my hair. :)

About sex: I was VERY sexually active last 10years or so. Always had hot girlfriends, always horny as ****, fapped daily (about 30-50orgasms/month). Now- I'm single, still having sex occasionally and I dont think it affects my hair...actually, after good sex I'm "good to go" for a couple of weeks..

Regimen? none. Standard hair vitamines, calcium+d3, nettle tea-2cups daily, using pumpkin seed oil.

are you not horny anymore?
 

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Doubt it.

I believe him. I have known a lot of guys that just got tired of having sex with 10's and decided to abstain. Sex with hotties just gets old.

BTW, if you ever see me with a slob of a woman, it's not because that's all I could get, it's because I just got tired of nailing 10's.
 

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Our whole biological goal in life is to find a woman and procreate. No matter what you say, this is the biological goal. The fact that you value your hair more than sex with a woman is pretty scary dude.


This is some hypochritical argument. And hilarious!
So you have sex everyday to procreate? Omg? How many babies do you have until now?Aaa, zero?
So, you only have sex for pleasure, in fact you use contraception to NOT procreate.

It's absurd, for procreation you don't need to have sex everyday.
Your "Argument" proves exactly the opposite: sexual function was "designed" by nature for reproduction purposes only.
And you don't reproduct daily, so excessive sexual activity is something quite out of nature, and may have adverse effects.
 
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I believe him. I have known a lot of guys that just got tired of having sex with 10's and decided to abstain. Sex with hotties just gets old.

BTW, if you ever see me with a slob of a woman, it's not because that's all I could get, it's because I just got tired of nailing 10's.

sarcasm coming out of your mouth , as always.
 

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someone said nofap makes his beard grow faster... this is weird, as its in opposition to my and many others experience, nofap makes my beard grow EXTREMELY slow, like 3-4 times slower.
for me it is a proof that it decreases DHT.
 

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This is some hypochritical argument. And hilarious!
So you have sex everyday to procreate? Omg? How many babies do you have until now?Aaa, zero?
So, you only have sex for pleasure, in fact you use contraception to NOT procreate.

It's absurd, for procreation you don't need to have sex everyday.
Your "Argument" proves exactly the opposite: sexual function was "designed" by nature for reproduction purposes only.
And you don't reproduct daily, so excessive sexual activity is something quite out of nature, and may have adverse effects.


What the f*ck are you even talking about dude? Who said anything about sex in general. I was simply commenting on Mr. Monkey's statement of "hair >> women". Meaning that he values his hair more than he values having a woman. Stop making assumptions you dildo.

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someone said nofap makes his beard grow faster... this is weird, as its in opposition to my and many others experience, nofap makes my beard grow EXTREMELY slow, like 3-4 times slower.
for me it is a proof that it decreases DHT.

Yet another piece of evidence supporting the notion that nofap has NO EFFECT on hair growth/loss/regrowth.
 

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Just because something is hard, it doesn't mean that it's worthwhile.

Pushing a 500lb boulder 10 miles up a hill is really hard, but that doesn't mean it's worth doing. A truck does the job just the same.

haha, yes as the song says 'Tools are machines that help us work/they push and pull and twist and jerk/any monkey knows that we're no fools/he uses his tail, but we use tools’.' I think the two things quite different however. When I did nofap it wasn't merely difficult to go without masturbating, it was difficult to go without watching p**rn. Something I wouldn't have thought so habitual had become quite habitual. It was rather like that movie Don Jon wherein the character didn't realize he had a problem until he tried to stop. I have no problem with masturbating in general, simply in the ritual that had formed around it. Also as I stated I was only avoiding masturbation and p**rn, I was having sex. Yet I was craving masturbation? Sifting through video after video until finding the 'perfect' one.. it simply ended up feeling like a negative behavior to me, so I changed it.

thank you Eureka , did it do any good to your hair , albeit you not being convinced ?
No, there were positive effects, but not concerning my hair. However as I said I only went a month. If there were to be a measurable effect I would expect it to take considerably longer than a month (even finasteride takes 9-12 months). Also how would one measure it? Personal anecdotal experience, especially of this nature leaves far too much to be desired.
 

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haha, yes as the song says 'Tools are machines that help us work/they push and pull and twist and jerk/any monkey knows that we're no fools/he uses his tail, but we use tools’.' I think the two things quite different however. When I did nofap it wasn't merely difficult to go without masturbating, it was difficult to go without watching p**rn. Something I wouldn't have thought so habitual had become quite habitual. It was rather like that movie Don Jon wherein the character didn't realize he had a problem until he tried to stop. I have no problem with masturbating in general, simply in the ritual that had formed around it. Also as I stated I was only avoiding masturbation and p**rn, I was having sex. Yet I was craving masturbation? Sifting through video after video until finding the 'perfect' one.. it simply ended up feeling like a negative behavior to me, so I changed it.

No, there were positive effects, but not concerning my hair. However as I said I only went a month. If there were to be a measurable effect I would expect it to take considerably longer than a month (even finasteride takes 9-12 months). Also how would one measure it? Personal anecdotal experience, especially of this nature leaves far too much to be desired.

For me it's not a problem. I haven't masturbated in probably 10 days. I don't see a ritual in it.

Do I agree with you that a lot of people find a ritual in it and would have a hard time stopping? Yes.

Do I agree that it might be healthy for a lot of people that masturbate more than once a day to chill out and do it much less? Yes

Do I agree that not masturbating will stop hair loss and even regrow hair? Hell f*cking no, that's retarded.
 

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Yet another piece of evidence supporting the notion that nofap has NO EFFECT on hair growth/loss/regrowth.


da ****?
that's like saying the fact finasteride doesn't work for everyone is proof it has no effect on hair growth/loss.

99% of dudes on nofap forums report beard grows slower.
 
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Quite the opposite, actually. They experience deepened voice and body hair, facial hair grow much more in density and quicker.

it indeed is the opposite , this is meant to increase your testosterone not to lower it.


No, there were positive effects, but not concerning my hair. However as I said I only went a month. If there were to be a measurable effect I would expect it to take considerably longer than a month (even finasteride takes 9-12 months). Also how would one measure it? Personal anecdotal experience, especially of this nature leaves far too much to be desired.

yes , my thought as well this thing can't be as fast as minoxidil /finasteride , I can hold out 6 months , I did the third already , my addiction is practically gone , I have mild desires of going to p**rn websites , but I overcame that envy and I have been clean since the beginning of this therapy.

if you want to measure it you have to be cautious about the shedding and the thin hair thickening , that's the only thing that someone could be able to notice.
 

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Hey guys, I think we should keep this discussion to scientific discussion also. Lots of people are using first hand accounts which is awesome. However.. many people are giving baseless claims that there's no way it could ever be possible based on nothing. It is a circle jerk of comments back and forth really accomplishing nothing and wasting time finding the gems of the thread. This is an "alternative therapy" and therefore has merit to be in this forum since there have been quite a few comments from /r/nofap on the change in shedding from abstaining for long periods of time.

If we could keep the discussion on real information, either based on your personal experience or something you find online about it working or not working, that would help the discussion.. otherwise, you might be wasting your time if you don't agree. :)
 
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