Aderans... Possibly some promising news?

andrei_eremenko

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maybe in 2100 they will say the same a? one this will be available...altough It looks like histogen will work...but nobody said that it could make a Norwood 1 with histogen...i think it will replace more succesfull minoxidil and propecia...it will maintain and and thicken the hair that you already have... we will live and we will see...!
 

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andrei_eremenko said:
maybe in 2100 they will same the same a? one this will be available...altough It looks like histogen will work...but nobody said that it could make a Norwood 1 with histogen...i think it will replace more succesfull minoxidil and propecia...it will maintain and and thicken the hair that you already have... we will live and we will see...!

I like your attitude lol. Don't worry, I am living in SE Asia so the second HSC is released I will go get it and document my progress.

However, sadly I do not think these products will be very effective for people at the higher norwood scale. Oh well 2013 will be here and then we will see how it goes.
 

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Vanzzzz said:
andrei_eremenko said:
maybe in 2100 they will same the same a? one this will be available...altough It looks like histogen will work...but nobody said that it could make a Norwood 1 with histogen...i think it will replace more succesfull minoxidil and propecia...it will maintain and and thicken the hair that you already have... we will live and we will see...!

I like your attitude lol. Don't worry, I am living in SE Asia so the second HSC is released I will go get it and document my progress.

However, sadly I do not think these products will be very effective for people at the higher norwood scale. Oh well 2013 will be here and then we will see how it goes.
they usually test on high norwoods, it's easier to evaluate progress on a higher norwood

i wouldn't recommend trials unless you have given up on treatment, you need to be minoxidil and finasteride free for 6 months before tests (and during of course) and you could wind up with a placebo
 

uncomfortable man

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The point is to cure baldness, which means NW7 to NW1. NO EXCEPTIONS! NW5+ consistently get the short end of the stick when it comes to treatments. The big 3 can only maintain/slightly regrow at best which is nowhere near enough to make a cosmetic difference. Hair transplants are out of the question for us unless we have unusually dense donor hair. Even head tattooing isn't recommended for NW5+. There are simply no options for us out there besides shaving or wearing a wig and it's fucked! There supposed to cure this sh*t! What's the point if HM is just a glorified hair transplant that doesn't work?
 

andrei_eremenko

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personally I put my trust in hsitogen ...I bet they can get a strong formula to rejuvenate the roots of the hair that once was yours...taking one more time a look at their pictures from trials it is obvious that their formula is working...and it does well creating new shafts of hair...look at the difference and it is just 3 months...in one year with a single dose the difference will be higher...

look at the yellow marks and especially at red...where there was no hair before...so it is just pre trial...not even first phase...it looks like final dose to be maybe at least 5 time better than this...
so I was thinking that we don't have any reason to be pesimistic...it would be a day when we will have our hair back...
 

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TheGrayMan2001

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uncomfortable man said:
The point is to cure baldness, which means NW7 to NW1. NO EXCEPTIONS!


NW1 is probably a bit unrealistic for a lot of people. Probably the "mature hairline" concept will come into play for most men. When you see hairlines there are often a lot of different ones that are "matured" and non-balding, ranging from a Nw0 to a Nw2 or the beginning of a Nw3.

Honestly, as long as the rest of our hair is thick and our hairlines can re-grow to its "natural" position I don't think we'll care.

But, I know what you really mean, is re-thickening the hair to the pre-balding state that most people had when they were 15 years old (minus the hairline which might be a bit different to everyone)
 

andrei_eremenko

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if they will be able to give you a strong a norwood 2 then it will be possible to be also a norwood 1 with no problem...
 

andrei_eremenko

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:) yea...I think I will go mad to see hair multiplication available and that I can produce thousands and dozens of thousands of hairs...I will become so mad that I will try to cover my head with 200 000 hairs...:)) even this will cost 50000 dollars...
 

andrei_eremenko

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i looks that it thicken up the existing one and revive the vellus and the old hair roots that are not producing hair anymore...
 

Boondock

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I'm with Dudemon on this.

The results are promising from the point of view that they clearly are results (which can't be said for most 'treatments' in the industry). However, they're not a complete turnaround. You guys need to chill out.
 

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What you guys don't understand (maybe because of lack of interest in the matter) is that these are proof of concept results, Pre-Clinical trials. HSC will be tested in different formulations over the next 2 years and the best one will be released.
 

somone uk

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i think i'll wait for a peer reveiw or at least a bunch of people on this forum documenting results before i spend my money
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tbh i am not going to bother with HM unless it could possibly deliver hair this ^^^^ thick
 

andrei_eremenko

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I don't really know if aderans will be able let say in 10 years to give results like this...to multiply 10 hairs to 150000...let's hope they will do it...
 

Matt Skiba

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^^^^^

That's nothing too exciting, just another news update with pretty much nothing worthwhile to add.

I'm sick of all these doctors/scientists hyping things up so much without any concrete pictures, they're just trying to get more stock investors.

For once I would like to see pictures of a balding man fully restored to having the hairline of a 16 year old. I'm really hoping they might be able to make something happen by kicking acell up a notch, but give it 6 months before we see any more pictures, and we still have no idea how those results are gonna turn out.
 

andrei_eremenko

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hey man the guys are struggling...but this is it...we need to wait...they want to make money as much as you want hair...but we need to wait...the good news is that there are some companies there that at least are trying something...a decade or 2 ago nobody was trying so much as today nobody enrolled 200 humans subjects for tests...btw I think aderans has already announced that the product they will release in 2014 will not cure the hair loss...will be a big plus for normal hair transplant's increasing densities to traditional hair transplant's then...they will look to solve this without any involving of any hair transplant...hope to be wrong but this is what I've read some time ago!!! personally I think histogen will begin the new era in hair restoration!
 

somone uk

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Matt Skiba said:
For once I would like to see pictures of a balding man fully restored to having the hairline of a 16 year old. I'm really hoping they might be able to make something happen by kicking acell up a notch, but give it 6 months before we see any more pictures, and we still have no idea how those results are gonna turn out.
hm will not be able to deliver that, yet
it'll be about 7 years after hm makes it onto the market until it's able to CURE hairloss
 

Matt Skiba

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Even if it's only able to maintain what hair you have would be a huge plus in my opinion, at least then I wouldnt have to worry about progressively looking worse throughout the years. I guess the results are kinda promising in that regard.
 

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the technology is amazing but the results they are looking for....13 hairs/cm² isn't great, though i guess the early adopters will trade a nw7 for severe dpa
 
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