After The Recent Events Anybody Else Depressed ?
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It's worse for some of us, sides even on topical finasteride. NW5 at 22 with sh*t donor so can't even do any transplants.
I have no others cards left to play other than buzzing my head and hitting the gym. Hoping something good comes along but hope is quickly fading.
I have no others cards left to play other than buzzing my head and hitting the gym. Hoping something good comes along but hope is quickly fading.
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Be brave guys. Life is unknow.
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Sometimes when I look in the mirror just the right way, I realize that I really like the way my hair looks, and that it is a comforting thought to imagine a reality in which it would grow back to full density and I could get to keep it forever.
But I have to blink the stars out of my eyes and remind myself that I do not live in that world, that I have not worked for my hair, that there are problems in my life for which I need to toughen up, bolster my work ethic and push myself to improve or else nothing will get done. I have to remember that growth is a process often removed from comfort, and that hair loss is actually a relatively benign, and therefore poor, example of how unfair life can be, because there can be and have been worse circumstances in other areas of my life.
I have to remind myself that what I really need in order to push forward and get what I want is stength, resilience, objective thinking, and the like, and that my looks are ephemeral and that they will eventually betray me regardless. No matter how interwoven my identity is with my looks, I am certain that my appearance is not my defining feature to others. I am not a model. I am an engineer. And then I try to forget about it.
I don't think I will ever not choose hair if given the choice. I'm just trying to accept the fact that this choice, or lack thereof, in all likelihood, isn't the most important one in my life. Not in a way that detracts from the anguish of loss and the burden of change, but acceptance in a way that reminds me not to squander other opportunities I have now due to a fit of depression about hair loss. Hair has nothing to do with me making an effort to become wealthier or more productive or healthier or any of those things, so I recognize that logically, I need to keep on keeping on. But depression can be a fog of stagnation that blankets your life, dampens your perspective and trades the zest of experiencing the world for an unshakable apathy. It's hard to do things, even basic things, when depressed. That's why I am trying to accept the reality that I likely have to move on without my hair. I don't see shame in that.
But I have to blink the stars out of my eyes and remind myself that I do not live in that world, that I have not worked for my hair, that there are problems in my life for which I need to toughen up, bolster my work ethic and push myself to improve or else nothing will get done. I have to remember that growth is a process often removed from comfort, and that hair loss is actually a relatively benign, and therefore poor, example of how unfair life can be, because there can be and have been worse circumstances in other areas of my life.
I have to remind myself that what I really need in order to push forward and get what I want is stength, resilience, objective thinking, and the like, and that my looks are ephemeral and that they will eventually betray me regardless. No matter how interwoven my identity is with my looks, I am certain that my appearance is not my defining feature to others. I am not a model. I am an engineer. And then I try to forget about it.
I don't think I will ever not choose hair if given the choice. I'm just trying to accept the fact that this choice, or lack thereof, in all likelihood, isn't the most important one in my life. Not in a way that detracts from the anguish of loss and the burden of change, but acceptance in a way that reminds me not to squander other opportunities I have now due to a fit of depression about hair loss. Hair has nothing to do with me making an effort to become wealthier or more productive or healthier or any of those things, so I recognize that logically, I need to keep on keeping on. But depression can be a fog of stagnation that blankets your life, dampens your perspective and trades the zest of experiencing the world for an unshakable apathy. It's hard to do things, even basic things, when depressed. That's why I am trying to accept the reality that I likely have to move on without my hair. I don't see shame in that.
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Man, I’m just tired, really tired...
All I want is to not worry about losing my hair and enjoy being a stupid dumb 21 year old kid like 98% of my friends.
sh*t, I mean i’m 21, I shouldn’t have to worry about finasteride giving erectile dysfunction or growing tits.
I like this forum a lot and I like all of you but I don’t want to spend most of my online time browsing a forum for hairloss and searching for a solution, why can’t I waste my time browsing silly stuff on facebook and twitter like all my other friends.
Why do I have to see most people concerned about what hairstyle or hair product they should try while I’m just trying to hide my scalp...
This isn’t fair man, I feel like an old man, I feel like my youth has been stolen from me.
I’m tired...
All I want is to not worry about losing my hair and enjoy being a stupid dumb 21 year old kid like 98% of my friends.
sh*t, I mean i’m 21, I shouldn’t have to worry about finasteride giving erectile dysfunction or growing tits.
I like this forum a lot and I like all of you but I don’t want to spend most of my online time browsing a forum for hairloss and searching for a solution, why can’t I waste my time browsing silly stuff on facebook and twitter like all my other friends.
Why do I have to see most people concerned about what hairstyle or hair product they should try while I’m just trying to hide my scalp...
This isn’t fair man, I feel like an old man, I feel like my youth has been stolen from me.
I’m tired...
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A minute and two seconds further down the desolate road that is life.
@sunchyme1 Help out your man
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sometimes, when I read some "good" news from some company here, I become euphoric and start thinking I'm worrying for nothing because we'll have a bunch of different treatments available in 2-3 years anyway
but then I see an overhyped company announce they delayed their trials again, sober up and start thinking they are all just pretending to do research to get money from the investors, while having no idea what they are doing
but then I see an overhyped company announce they delayed their trials again, sober up and start thinking they are all just pretending to do research to get money from the investors, while having no idea what they are doing
choi can present a cure but that doesn't mean we'll see it for another 10 years...
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I used to be depressed about my hair constantly. Even before i started losing it. But no longer. I've been on a regimen which is experimental but backed by good basic science and its been working for me.
The only thing that has depressed me lately has been the disastrous result from my estriol experiment:
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...inder-hair-growth.113077/page-11#post-1656178
Makes me nervous and afraid to try with equol and estradiol but i probably still will try once i have some time to heal from this. It is settling down already. I want to figure out a good estrogen signalling solution before i stop.
In my opinion if you are willing to make compromises on the side effect and risk profile of medications, there are many effective treatments out there for hair loss. Some experimental, some mainstream, but many of which should be effective for most guys. We have never had so many treatments as we do now.
I think the guys who get depressed haven't really tried enough agents and/or have unrealistic expectations and expect something for nothing. Ie. An easy cure for no risk or side effect.
In the end you have to prioritize your hairloss according to how much it matters to you. My hair matters a great deal to me. So i have tried to act accordingly. If it matters to you, then you should perhaps consider trying harder to save it. No one's gonna do that work for you. If you want it, it's up to you.
The only thing that has depressed me lately has been the disastrous result from my estriol experiment:
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...inder-hair-growth.113077/page-11#post-1656178
Makes me nervous and afraid to try with equol and estradiol but i probably still will try once i have some time to heal from this. It is settling down already. I want to figure out a good estrogen signalling solution before i stop.
In my opinion if you are willing to make compromises on the side effect and risk profile of medications, there are many effective treatments out there for hair loss. Some experimental, some mainstream, but many of which should be effective for most guys. We have never had so many treatments as we do now.
I think the guys who get depressed haven't really tried enough agents and/or have unrealistic expectations and expect something for nothing. Ie. An easy cure for no risk or side effect.
In the end you have to prioritize your hairloss according to how much it matters to you. My hair matters a great deal to me. So i have tried to act accordingly. If it matters to you, then you should perhaps consider trying harder to save it. No one's gonna do that work for you. If you want it, it's up to you.
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its not going to take 10 years. It probably wont take even 5 min.
His method of total reverse of hairloss deals with a very specific protein that seems to regulates hair growth, and because it has a very specific fuction, it wont mess up anything else, meaning it has no sides.
His discovery happened 2013 to be more accurate, he and his team have been making great progress and there are a lot less regulations in Korea to put his treatment on the market.
Im convinced it definetly wont take that much time and it has huge potential to be the most efficient treatment ever.
Btw, he will be presenting his discovery to the world in person for the first time ever in Agust at the most important derma event in Asian/pacific world.
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hahaha the colourful bird gets all the chicks out there and the ugly black bird is wenking all night long. if someone tells you balding is not that bad, life must go on i say: go f*** yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in younger years a i often got hot chicks out there. but when i started balding, i had no chance anymore, a bald head doesnt fit me. the question is, why? why do i have this disease while others can live unhealthy as they want and they are not starting balding. but there are also much more diseases out there, but in most cases balding means to stay alone, for the rest of your life. it is not a dangerous disease, but its a heartbreaking disease...
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Well what exactly are our options here? I've been on minoxidil for 5 years and I use nizoral and another hairloss shampoo. Tried finasteride twice - the first time not even remotely expecting any side effects, and then again 1 year later on a micro-dose regiment and both times I ended up with erectile dysfunction. I bought RU from Kane and followed Hellouser's thread on that - used for 6-7 months with no noticeable effects on my hair but wait! I did get f*****g gynocomastia in my right nipple. What else is there? Derma rolling? "Seti"? I mean how much time and energy can a person be expected to put into trying to save their hair when the options for doing so out there are a goddamn JOKE? If I prioritized my hair more than having a functioning c*** I would pop finasteride like skittles and get a hair transplant but other than that there's not much we can reasonably be expected to do. I think I'm done with the home science experiments for good, not only do we have no idea if these treatments do anything, we don't even know if the sh*t we're getting from manufacturers is safe/ legit.
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Well at least you got to experience that for a while. Those of us who were born or developed to be unattractive only get to see our friends live the lives you describe and rub it in our faces. At least you got those memories. And if you truly want to stop hair loss there are plenty of strong enough drugs out there to do it. I would love to have experienced being attractive when i was younger even for a few years.
It's not a pity contest and yeah some people will always have it worse. That doesn't invalidate your unhappiness. Just saying.
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But wont it being approved in Korea mean that it will only be available in Korea ? And regulation here in Europe, or over in the America's require seperate FDA trials and approval ?
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its a huge misconception that it takes at least 10-15 years to develop and market a treatment, I guess people bought that bs from the likes of follica, who dedicate more time to formatting their reports than to product development.
when you have an actual solution, and not just a farfetched hypothetical projection of a concept that might, if everything goes well, work (which you present as a done deal to the investors), suddenly all the scary regulatory obstacles dissapear. trials can be done way more quickly when you dont delay them because you know your data will be a fiasco.
and its not that choi started his research yesterday anyway.