All we need to know about RU58841

[baroudeur]

HEY duterino
i was using 0.1gr
that day i probaly put more,i also apply some minoxidil on the vertex,maybe it made it in my blood this way
libido is here but you can lose an erection suddenly,

 

[el_duterino]

baroudeur, when you used RU were you also on finasteride ?

 

[baroudeur]

no i never went ovcer a month on finasteride,it doesnt affect my libido,it makes me more agressive and constipated,also some depression and demencia episodes will on finasteride,so ti stay away from it

only natural at the moment (fish oils....curcumi....)
but thinking og going back on duta but this affects my joints,libido and brain

iam sure duta and ru could be better

in fact what i am trying to do is recover from the biggest mistake i did wichis go on minoxidil

i was barely NW1 until december 2008,
from septbr to january 2008 i was taking duta+ minoxidil,and had to stop because of horrigles side effects fro both,
i then shed 70% of my hair and never recovered it,i never applied minoxidil on the hairline thats why i have 2 cm abovehairline with thick hair,anything else have miniaturized dramatically
i apply some spectral on the vertex and the RU all over
i also use polysorbate
i still shed some thick hair but i hope RU bring back to life those

 

[el_duterino]

if you had very strong sides on dutasteride thats means that you are a bit sensitive to the lack of androgens.

I took dutasteride for 4 years, had a bit less libido but no problems the get erections etc..

RU will go systemic and can produce erection issues if you use too much. But RU has a serum half life of only 1 hour so the systemic effect is very short.

I had sometimes erection issues on 400mg a day of RU and also when I used 200mg a day with finasteride.

I stopped finasteride and it was fine.


Side on RU are very temporary, perhaps a few hours and 1 day at the most. You need to adjust the amount depending on your own sensitivity.

Also apply RU as far as possible during the day from having sex..like in the morning etc..that will help.

 

[baroudeur]

just like you have tried using fluridil at same time,up to 3 amp a day but it just made me shed some hair also,iam doing good now with 0.01 gr of Ru no libido problems,but erection sometimes is impossible to keep after 10minutes.....
duterino how do you know if your RU is working?

 

[baroudeur]

duterino what you think of this
"The Material Safety Data Sheet warns users to avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage."

 

[blaze]

just like you have tried using fluridil at same time,up to 3 amp a day but it just made me shed some hair also,iam doing good now with 0.01 gr of Ru no libido problems,but erection sometimes is impossible to keep after 10minutes.....
duterino how do you know if your RU is working?

i find it hard to beleive 10mg of RU is causing erection problems.

 

[baroudeur]

just like you have tried using fluridil at same time,up to 3 amp a day but it just made me shed some hair also,iam doing good now with 0.01 gr of Ru no libido problems,but erection sometimes is impossible to keep after 10minutes.....
duterino how do you know if your RU is working?

i find it hard to beleive 10mg of RU is causing erection problems.

dont believe it then,i am having erections to please you after all

 

[thinincrown]

duterino what you think of this
"The Material Safety Data Sheet warns users to avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage."

I would think Bryan would be the one to ask about this. He has a lot more knowledge on the chemical aspect of additives in topical hair preparations than about anyone.....plus he probably has a copy of the study you mention somewhere.

 

[baroudeur]

in fact iam using 100mg=0.1 gr,i hope you feel better now

 

[thinincrown]

in fact iam using 100mg=0.1 gr,i hope you feel better now

good to hear, Im using 50 mg's and never felt better...

 

[waynakyo]

Baroudeur,
do yourself and us a favour: decrease RU (I would do so progressively just because but don't trust me on this) or stop it. Then wait a couple of weeks, watch p**rn or get a girl, and tell us.

TELL US. It doesn't sound so bad from the way you put it anyway. nothing close to what some finasteride guys are getting (or maybe you panic less). If things go back to normal I would go back on a smaller dose.

I haven't noticed anything significant yet from my side. I am using 100ish.

 

[asm]

monty,

in some other thread you were saying you would be starting RU shortly. Have you started already? How are things going, if so?

 

[el_duterino]

on a day-per-day usage and in terms if results, RU is less expensive than fluridil.

If you have money issues, don't order fluridil and just RU and generic finasteride.

 

[waynakyo]

El-duta
i think you mentioned this before, what is the life of RU ? I remember you saying something like couple of hours. If this is so, I do not see how one application a day is enough ...

 

[el_duterino]

the serum half life is 1 hour..which is good as it limit systemic effects.

the effect on the AR last over 24 hours..so you can use it once a day and be protected all the time from the effects of the androgens on your scalp.

 

[baroudeur]

the serum half life is 1 hour..which is good as it limit systemic effects.

the effect on the AR last over 24 hours..so you can use it once a day and be protected all the time from the effects of the androgens on your scalp.

duterinon,does this mean you cant wash your hair for 24 hours?

 

[el_duterino]

you can wash your hair as often as you want it does not matter, although I would wait at least 1 hour after RU application.

RU binds to the AR inside the cells deep into the skin, washing hair only happens at the surface of the skin.

When you apply RU, makes sure that you rub it in thouroughly so that most of it gets into the skin.

 

[baroudeur]

thats what i do,i have added spectral RS wich i spray 20 linutes after RU
i hope i take bback what i lost on minoxidil still
ifi d have used RU instead of minoxidil i wold have kept what i had and even thcken them well,
minoxidil and xandros destroyed my good density and even messed up my heart bbecause i have someheart pains ever since!!!

 

[waynakyo]

Baroudeur
We will appreciate an update about your side effects from RU. apparently you are back on it ?


El-duta
From where do you get this ? References ?

the effect on the AR last over 24 hours..so you can use it once a day and be protected all the time from the effects of the androgens on your scalp.