Alot Of Things Will Cause Hair Loss But Almost Nothing Will Cause Hair Growth ?

[Xander94]

Well, if you only look at the Western countries you will see that the highest ranking countries are mostly the secular ones. Also, the increase of anti-depressants is no accurate indicator of depression as this study (coincidentally about men vs. women) shows: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5451647/

I agree, this discussion deserves its own thread indeed.

what does it mean "highest ranking countries"

 

[INT]

what does it mean "highest ranking countries"

See the previous page:
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpres...ile-religious-countries-are-poor-and-unhappy/

 

[Timii]

Religion was our only weapon in oppressing women. Now it is all over

It did its part for sure but to me the real problem seems to be social media. Back then women didn't have access to so many good-looking men or pics of them, if you were balding it was no tragedy, your hypothetical wife wouldn't have known of many better looking men anyway. Now women are exposed to the existence of men from the other end of the world , so a woman can't really marry without bearing in mind that she could do better any time. That's why enforced monogamy isn't a solution, it's already too late for that.

 

[Timii]

Never mind regrowth, let's lower the bar way down.

How about a f*****g MAINTENANCE solution that doesn't involve messing with your hormones and cucking yourself with antiandrogens? It's 2020, there should be a way to do that. It's already known that VEGF loss results in death of progenitor cells which is probably responsible for most of the balding process, how hard is it to find the pathway DHT->VEGF pathway and make a small molecule or peptide to disrupt that... trust me there is so much more that could be done if they really put in the night and day effort to research it. We barely know anything about the hair loss process (and I don't mean the idiot-tier "lul DHT killz hair" but what happens on a transcriptional level underneath) to even be able to say we can come up with any kind of worthy treatment.

If we had an effective and side-less maintenance solution we would be set. We would only neeed a transplant and our hair problems would be gone.

 

[Xander94]

Never mind regrowth, let's lower the bar way down.

How about a f*****g MAINTENANCE solution that doesn't involve messing with your hormones and cucking yourself with antiandrogens? It's 2020, there should be a way to do that. It's already known that VEGF loss results in death of progenitor cells which is probably responsible for most of the balding process, how hard is it to find the pathway DHT->VEGF pathway and make a small molecule or peptide to disrupt that... trust me there is so much more that could be done if they really put in the night and day effort to research it. We barely know anything about the hair loss process (and I don't mean the idiot-tier "lul DHT killz hair" but what happens on a transcriptional level underneath) to even be able to say we can come up with any kind of worthy treatment.

too late for that

 

[MeDK]

Those Scandinavian countries at the top became the prosperous countries they are during a time when they were more Christian than secular.

Oh really, that is a twist of events, its because of Christianity that Scandinavia is who they are.... interesting.

Just to inform you, Scandinavia have never been religious, not in the way you make it sound.
Denmark became christians because it was written on a stone. all of Scandinavia uses their old word for christmas, Jul/Júl where ever you go in Scandinavia. It couldn't be further of religion.

Scandinavia was formed for the mentality that already was around with the vikings, that everybody needs to be a part of the society and the strong carry more weight than the weak and so on. When people know they are a part of a society, they usually doesn't want to make it worse if they can make it better.

There is a good trust between Scandinavians, its a mental thing, almost carved into the DNA. It gives a common ground for the freedom among each other.

Its a mentality others can't understand or carry. Its seen way to often.

In many other societies there is a predatory mindset. Take advantage of people around you so you can move forward, not be a part of a society, only take advantage of it.

That is why Scandinavia today is suffering. Because of the predatory nations coming to Scandinavia. They simply don't have a Scandinavian mentality. No matter where they are from, even other western countries also have that predatory mindset.

Just look at nations like America, they whole american mentality is predatory, live the american dream by fighting your way to the top no matter what. Same with the middle eastern nations. Its a status symbol for those kind of people to be "on the top" no matter what the price is. Thats why they cheat and steal. If someone left a wallet with $1.000 they would take it for them self and throw out the wallet. Because they don't want to be a part of a nice and safe society where they help each other.

There is a reason too why they rate to high in crime statistic foreigners when they come to Scandinavia. They simply can't like in a free society. They need to hunt and prey on everyone. Even their own.

 

[Xander94]

Oh really, that is a twist of events, its because of Christianity that Scandinavia is who they are.... interesting.

Just to inform you, Scandinavia have never been religious, not in the way you make it sound.
Denmark became christians because it was written on a stone. all of Scandinavia uses their old word for christmas, Jul/Júl where ever you go in Scandinavia. It couldn't be further of religion.

Scandinavia was formed for the mentality that already was around with the vikings, that everybody needs to be a part of the society and the strong carry more weight than the weak and so on. When people know they are a part of a society, they usually doesn't want to make it worse if they can make it better.

There is a good trust between Scandinavians, its a mental thing, almost carved into the DNA. It gives a common ground for the freedom among each other.

Its a mentality others can't understand or carry. Its seen way to often.

In many other societies there is a predatory mindset. Take advantage of people around you so you can move forward, not be a part of a society, only take advantage of it.

That is why Scandinavia today is suffering. Because of the predatory nations coming to Scandinavia. They simply don't have a Scandinavian mentality. No matter where they are from, even other western countries also have that predatory mindset.

Just look at nations like America, they whole american mentality is predatory, live the american dream by fighting your way to the top no matter what. Same with the middle eastern nations. Its a status symbol for those kind of people to be "on the top" no matter what the price is. Thats why they cheat and steal. If someone left a wallet with $1.000 they would take it for them self and throw out the wallet. Because they don't want to be a part of a nice and safe society where they help each other.

There is a reason too why they rate to high in crime statistic foreigners when they come to Scandinavia. They simply can't like in a free society. They need to hunt and prey on everyone. Even their own.

Didnt dont care, if you are so good then close the borders and see yourself become poor bald incel

 

[INT]

Those happiness rankings are misleading. They are more correlated with wealth, IQ, and homogeneity than with religious belief or practices.

Of course they are. I only posted it to disprove what another user said.

Those Scandinavian countries at the top became the prosperous countries they are during a time when they were more Christian than secular.

This is literally not true

They also have intelligent populations which creates prosperity, which in turn creates low crime and happiness. A homogeneous population creates higher social trust and cohesion.

You got a source for that?

They don't have different ethnic groups that are jealous and envious of each other, competing for benefits and advantages like affirmative action.

Have you ever been in Scandinavia? I have been there many times and they definitely have many different ethnic groups.

Diversity is nothing but a drain on happiness,

An opinion, not a fact

Give it a hundred years and these secular countries won't be so happy.

Speculation, not a fact

Actually they probably won't even be secular anymore. Sweden at least will be an Islamic theocracy at the rate things are going.

I thought they did not have different ethnic groups?

Without religion to keep people grounded, drug abuse, violence, and theft have all increased. No one is happy with what they have, they all want more. We have become nothing but a consumerist society driven by our base needs. Americans today are gluttonous, sexually depraved, narcissistic, and their lives are devoid of any meaning.

Where do you think you see more atheism? At universities or amongst gang members?

 

[INT]

I agree with much of what you say, but Christianity does provide a moral compass

You might wonder what it says about someone if they need Christianity to have a moral compass...

and many Scandinavians are now too busy pursuing their sexual desires to do anything meaningful. Perhaps not in Denmark, but in Sweden for sure.

Source?

 

[MeDK]

Didnt dont care, if you are so good then close the borders and see yourself become poor bald incel

If only it is possible. That is the downside of EU and open borders. There is border control, but its only for symbolism.

There is a reason too why UK abandoned EU, there is a reason why Norway isn't a part of EU (and they have a pretty strong economy and starting to build up even stronger educations)

EU have too many predatory nations, that only seek membership to feast on the benefits that EU provides. EU calling Greece to help them out from going bankrupt. All the poor nations going to more wealthy Europe for social benefits, education and work. And with the nice side effect of more crime from the predatory people.

It would be great to be able to close the borders between nations in EU, it is one of the biggest mistakes. It should have stopped at the vision about being a trade union, not a pseudo nation state

 

[MeDK]

I agree with much of what you say, but Christianity does provide a moral compass, and many Scandinavians are now too busy pursuing their sexual desires to do anything meaningful. Perhaps not in Denmark, but in Sweden for sure.

Denmark, and Scandinavia, liberated hard core porno, being open minded to different sexualities and so on.

Scandinavia is only Christian by label, not by the whole "moral compass" Its not like other religious nations around the world like USA, middle eastern nations. And those nations have a huge lack of "moral compass".

Unless "God" preached for predatory behaviour of course.

 

[Timii]

You might wonder what it says about someone if they need Christianity to have a moral compass...

Only few can be virtuous without external help. It is what is is, the human species is not famous for being moral and just. And no, I'm not a religious person at all, just like many people on here.

 

[Janko]

If only it is possible. That is the downside of EU and open borders. There is border control, but its only for symbolism.

There is a reason too why UK abandoned EU, there is a reason why Norway isn't a part of EU (and they have a pretty strong economy and starting to build up even stronger educations)

EU have too many predatory nations, that only seek membership to feast on the benefits that EU provides. EU calling Greece to help them out from going bankrupt. All the poor nations going to more wealthy Europe for social benefits, education and work. And with the nice side effect of more crime from the predatory people.

It would be great to be able to close the borders between nations in EU, it is one of the biggest mistakes. It should have stopped at the vision about being a trade union, not a pseudo nation state

UK was never part of Schengen area. I understand the reasons why UK wanted to leave, but their visions of what they will achieve is not realistic at all. Norway is not part of EU, but is following many rules of EU and has to follow them even though they are not member. They are part of Schengen and therefore have no borders. Norwegian economy is strong, but their economists are aware, that it is holding mostly thanks to oil. But for how long it can live on it? Even my Norwegian girlfriend family and friends said, that rest of Europe see Norway way too positive and their future is unsure without oil.

You are mixing up things. I would recommend you to search some informations regarding EU, EU funds etc. I worked for EU for 18 months and it is not exactly as you believe it is. You should get some insight about the "predatory" nations. Greece is, well. If you behave like money is for free, then you will get fucked.However I believe, that you meant mostly Eastern part with Poland, Czech republic, Slovakia etc. Well, they are not predatory nations as you would like to believe. EU funds can help, but also harm a lot and the rules given by EU to be able to join made for example huge problems in Czech rep. If you look at Poland and rest of the eastern part, they get huge funds. But which companies usually win the projects? German and French one. If I remember correctly over 80% of 2015 projects financed by EU in Poland was given to companies originating in France or Germany. In Czech republic and Hungary many companies ended, because they were unable to fit the EU terms and therefore could not win the EU funded projects. Also remember EU almost never funds 100% of each project, so rest is paid by the local goverment -> local citizens taxes. Germany and France are actually funding their own companies with the EU funds to other countries. Yes, things get build in those countries, but don't say how Germany and France are good goys and doing this only in good will. Also during the entering talks in 90s EU had some even absurd conditions. They all were going through privatization, but there were some sectors they wanted to be able to regulate. But they were pushed by EU to privatize even those sectors. Some of them EU in the end allowed, but for example in Czech rep. they were not investing in the water systems (knew they will have to sell it) to match the EU conditions (mostly water cleaners) and there were already signed contracts for it since they were preparing for privatization. So they had to go through the privatization even though. I know the EU really helped those countries, but they have a lot of problems for the future they will have to face mostly thanks to EU. You can also add to count, that those countries are never heard when they have they own idea, way to fix something or disagree with some new EU communist utopia sh*t. The V4 were right about 2015 migrant crisis and they are getting hell of a sh*t until today for it. Also they are the ones warning about EU becoming the new soviet union, since they have experience from it. However, that is even welcomed by some students on intership there. One Swedish girl openly said, that Socialistic union would be heaven on earth.
Regarding borders: To hell with Schengen. I remember the border controls and it wasn't that time consuming and it was way more safer. Also if Germany have over 500 000 lost asylum seekers in open borders, then everyone has 500 000 lost asylum seekers.

 

[INT]

Sure it is. Even today 75% of Swedes consider themselves Christians.

Nope, 58% of the Swedish people are Christian and the number is so high because till recently you were automatically enrolled in the Christian church at birth. Once the boomers and their offspring die out these numbers will automatically plummet. Less than 1 in 5 Swedes consider to be actually religious (and that even includes other religions as well)
Being orn Christian is something different than practicing Christian. I am a born Christian because my parents were born Christians. I never prayed, the number of times I have been in a church after I was baptized I can count on 1 hand and my parents also never go to church. We never talk about religion, we do not pray, we openly say that we do not believe in a God and yet, according to the administration we are three Christians.

I don't have time to dig it up, but yes studies have been done to show that this is true, and really it's just common sense.

You have time to write a lengthy post, but no time to fill in a search query in google and copy/paste a link? Yeah... Till you post a reliable source I am going to assume it is not true. What is common sense to one person might be horseshit to another.

According to the data it is a fact.

Till I see the data, it is just an opinion

A red herring. Many atheists, like myself, live more religious lives than many Christians these days. Christianity for in a post-modern world is just a fashion accessory for many.

Best post ever. You falsely accuse me of making a red herring and then make a red herring yourself. You know what I am getting at. Many of the most violent groups in the world (whether it is gang members or terrorists) are very religious. Sure, the modern-day person might have some existential issues now that we no longer have to bow to a suppressive religion but these are the growth pains that are associated with a developing world. Religion might have had its place in the past, but just because something had a place in our development in the past does not mean that we must go back to it. Others issues we are currently faced with are choice overload, social media, overconsumption etc.

 

[INT]

Only few can be virtuous without external help. It is what is is, the human species is not famous for being moral and just. And no, I'm not a religious person at all, just like many people on here.

Christianity is not the only source of external help we need to become virtuous.

 

[Xenophon]

Religion was our only weapon in oppressing women. Now it is all over

Who says religion is over? This is a temporary illusion.

And oppressing women (from a modern perspective) is timeless, universal to all cultures save for the Westernized world in the past fifty years. We have this silly yet transcendental notion of freedom that has everyone on anxiety pills and Reddit.

This isn't lasting for much longer. Have faith.

 

[Xenophon]

Well, if you only look at the Western countries you will see that the highest ranking countries are mostly the secular ones. Also, the increase of anti-depressants is no accurate indicator of depression as this study (coincidentally about men vs. women) shows: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5451647/

I agree, this discussion deserves its own thread indeed.

Economics is not any measure of quality of life or social happiness. The obsession with GDP is comorbid with all the stuff that pains men, incels and so forth. Feminism is turbo-charged hypercapitalism.

Countries in no way came into prosperity due to shedding religion. Jettisoning tradition is a great punishment in every way. It is only political grifters, the all-too-busy, and NPCs who manage to convince themselves this is some kind of good thing; and that's because this belief is bound up with peoples' monies and their little vices and perversions.

We are driven to find correlative environmental factors here, whether it's religion or ideology, but world outcomes are almost entirely about genetics. It doesn't matter all that much if some prosperous country adopts one ideology over another. But a society needs its traditions too, not to have an elite class dissolve those traditions. Traditions don't arise out of nowhere and are not merely flukes of historical circumstance.

An individual can be perfectly content or miserable anywhere. But western society is utterly amoral and disgusting as it drifts away from its various traditions and its moral structure, Christianity. We basically stand astride two rivers; in spite of a secular atheism which is only formal and verbal, we have essentially inverted Christian doctrines everywhere, bourgeois to the core.

 

[karatekid]

Nope, 58% of the Swedish people are Christian and the number is so high because till recently you were automatically enrolled in the Christian church at birth. Once the boomers and their offspring die out these numbers will automatically plummet. Less than 1 in 5 Swedes consider to be actually religious (and that even includes other religions as well)
Being orn Christian is something different than practicing Christian. I am a born Christian because my parents were born Christians. I never prayed, the number of times I have been in a church after I was baptized I can count on 1 hand and my parents also never go to church. We never talk about religion, we do not pray, we openly say that we do not believe in a God and yet, according to the administration we are three Christians.



You have time to write a lengthy post, but no time to fill in a search query in google and copy/paste a link? Yeah... Till you post a reliable source I am going to assume it is not true. What is common sense to one person might be horseshit to another.



Till I see the data, it is just an opinion




Best post ever. You falsely accuse me of making a red herring and then make a red herring yourself. You know what I am getting at. Many of the most violent groups in the world (whether it is gang members or terrorists) are very religious. Sure, the modern-day person might have some existential issues now that we no longer have to bow to a suppressive religion but these are the growth pains that are associated with a developing world. Religion might have had its place in the past, but just because something had a place in our development in the past does not mean that we must go back to it. Others issues we are currently faced with are choice overload, social media, overconsumption etc.

What is choice overload?

 

[karatekid]

I see that the interesting, deep, existensional discussions were moved from the impact section to the research section

 

[INT]

Economics is not any measure of quality of life or social happiness.

I never said that and I agree with you.

Countries in no way came into prosperity due to shedding religion.

Nor did I say this. However, loss of power from religions went hand in hand with more accesible information, a better understandign of the world (due to science). I think it is hard to argue against those two things not being beneficial to our well-being.

We are driven to find correlative environmental factors here, whether it's religion or ideology, but world outcomes are almost entirely about genetics.

This is highly debatable

It doesn't matter all that much if some prosperous country adopts one ideology over another. But a society needs its traditions too, not to have an elite class dissolve those traditions.

I agree. Traditions have their role in social cohesion. Still, religions are not the only roots of tradition.

An individual can be perfectly content or miserable anywhere. But western society is utterly amoral and disgusting as it drifts away from its various traditions and its moral structure, Christianity. We basically stand astride two rivers; in spite of a secular atheism which is only formal and verbal, we have essentially inverted Christian doctrines everywhere, bourgeois to the core.

Why are we that amoral and disgusting according to you? And were we really that much more moral in our more Christian times? You are probably aware that our ancestors did some horrible things in the name of Christianity. Even in our current times, being a high profile Christen did not stop some Christian leaders from putting their hands in the underwear of young boys.