Analysis: How Bald/Short/Meek/Ethnic men fare on the Bachelorette

Afro_Vacancy

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The Bachelorette is an environment where women get to choose their pick of the litter by design, the seasons start with 30 or 40 contestants and the women pick one. It's interesting to see what women pick, now that there have been many seasons and thus we have a good sample size. As the male winners are usually around ~30, we would expect some ~30% of the winners to have visibly receding hairlines if baldness is irrelevant. More will have receding hairlines if baldness is considered sexy, and less if baldness is considered unsexy. Also note that if a bald man shows up among the contestants, he probably compensates in every other way, and he might even have a lot of confidence.

Also, if you subscribe to the Fredological worldview of romance, you will predict that the cases where subpar men "won" are specifically the cases less likely to succeed. Note that I wrote out this sentence prior to looking up the answer.

So this is the winner of season 1:
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Tall, white, athletic, full-head. They got married and have two kids. Incidentally, he is a Nw2.5 or so now, but that's 13 years later.

Here is the winner of season 2:
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Notice that he is only marginally taller than her, they broke up soon after the show ended. She has married a taller man.

Season 3,
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She turned down both guys in spite of both being visible attractive.

Season 4:
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This boyish-looking guy won. She dumped him and went with a more masculine man afterwards.

Season 5:
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Very good-looking man won, but apparently he's an a**h**. She went with a more boyish man. He got married to a more traditionally beautiful woman, a blonde with great legs.

Season 6:
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Wow, an ethnic guy won. They broke up around a year later and now she is married to a white man.

Season 7:
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They're still together.

Season 8:
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He won, he is boyish looking and only marginally taller than her. They broke up within a few months. She is now with a taller, more masculine man.

Season 9:
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A 10/10 man, they married and are still together and are writing poetry books together.

Season 10:
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They broke up soon after.

Season 11:
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A 10/10 male won, they're still together.

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Conclusion: No bald man has ever won on the Bachelorette. The shortest men who won were marginally taller than their partners, and the relationships didn't last. Only one ethnic man won, and the relationship didn't last, and since he was Hispanic he is barely ethnic as opposed to Asian or Black. 10/10 men did very well in not just winning but having lasting relationships.

Being gifted doesn't yield a guarantee of winning, it just means getting a good chance.
Being bald appears to be a guarantee of not winning.
 

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Even if you have sex with the woman as a bald guy, it won't last long.

I was almost there with my ex who was 1 point below me and deeply in love.

But no, my looks were no match for an abortion. Had I been more good-looking, she would not have left me after that incident.

Now, I'm just having one night stands and flings, maybe one girl could become a long-term mate, but one day she will wake up and realize that I'm not that great(-looking).

Even if you're a tall above average man like me, you can't win these days. The truth is that you cannot have flaws at all: I have balding and a skinny body. Game over.

All you can hope is a relationship that will last one or two years, until she finally loses interest in you, especially after seeing so many better-looking guys pass by.

I won't play a game I can't win. If I had a full head of hair, I wouldn't be so pessimistic, but I know my value, and the women I go out with know it too.

Women have been lied to by the mainstream media, Hollywood movies and TV shows, their friends (also influenced by this BS).

They all think life is like Sex and the City and Grey's Anatomy and that they will make it big in their career, travel the world, meet Mr. Big, in short have it all.

As men, there's nothing we can do against these forces that influence the women around us. Women are herd creatures, and they have little self-awareness.

They have Tinder and Tinder Plus now, they can travel to any other country in a few hours, before, you were competing with the men in your social circle, at worst in your neighborhood.

Now? You're competing with the whole f-ing planet, and women's hypergamy has no bounds. And you know what is bound to happen: the same that has been seen on that Bachelorette TV show.

Women are wired to reproduce with the best-looking man around. It's biological and there's nothing they can do about it.

Imagine being in underwear in bed with a gorgeous woman beside you for the night. How long would it take before you jump on her?

It's the same for women when they see a genetically superior man around. They'll have this uncontrollable urge to be with him.

Knowing that, I don't see how I could ever commit myself to any woman and how I could stay faithful. I know I'm going to lose anyway, so why even bother being a good guy?

Only good-looking men can be faithful without losing their partner. I saw it with my cousin who is good-looking and already 5 years with his girlfriend (soon to be wife).

She would do anything to keep him around, she has this jealousy in her eyes, this admiration, like the ones you see on the pictures David posted above.

So since you can't change this just play the game, get yours as much as you can and if they leave move on to someone else without care. Have male friends for laughs etc. Don't rely one women for your happiness they either will leave you for someone "better" or try and lock you down so you have no freedom.
 

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So they will **** you but not date you?Dont understand this,seems weird to me.
 

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Importance of culture is heavily underestimated here.

Alot of western women and men have no boundaries, no sense of real values. By values, I don't necessarily mean "conservative" values, just good, common-sense values.

I don't believe it's (fully) womens biology which makes women go around from one man to an another etc.

It's todays individualism and consumerism which have brainwashed generations to come.

This is why, according to me, marriages won't seem to last in the western world.

Explain to me how does marriages between women and men in my ethnic group (christian middle-eastern) seem to last forever, but the same aged swedish man and woman won't last 3 years?

Because there's still a family-oriented culture and good values being attached to it which keeps both parties from f*cking **** up.

My brother been with his gorgeous girlfriend for 6 years now, next year they're getting married. Granted, he's very good looking, but she's even more good looking, yet she's stayed when she could have easily taken a just as handsome but richer guy.
 

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if you make bullsh*t shows like this a gauge for anything in real life, then you are setting yourself up for frustration and disappointment.
 

shookwun

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anyone who watches these shows are beta-cuckold-nut shake guzzlers in the making!
 

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if you make bullsh*t shows like this a gauge for anything in real life, then you are setting yourself up for frustration and disappointment.

Women need to stop watching this garbage.
 

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Getting a girl of life(marriage material) is so easy.
You just need to be a average guy with no flaws.
NO FLAWS.

You do not need to be 10/10..
You don't need to be taller.
Average of every category will land you with the most beautiful girl you can have.

And point is maximum guys are average..
So who are not average..
Those who are having flaws like bald men..
Not considering balding men here.

Problem is we can't change our fate..
If we are bald..
Good luck.
 

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Don't make any assumptions based on shows like this. It's just common sense.
 

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just lol @ at fred's gf who made an abortion rather having a baby with balding gene (it is joke)

and lol at gf with TWO child who WANTED ONE MORE ahahahahah

just IMAGINE a life of woman in 2016 with a Tinder when she can travel to a new city or country and find a hot guy to raw dog her in the nearest toilet in a FEW minutes AND nobody will know about that except her and guy (I mean she can return at home and pretend to be innocent and nice again)

AND how pathetic it is for sub 7/10 guy who need to SHOW A "GAME" and go to countless datings (where he need to pay of course) for touch a single vagina (also if sex will not good it will be ur fault)

it is OVER guys, it is OVER
 

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just lol @ at fred's gf who made an abortion rather having a baby with balding gene (it is joke)

and lol at gf with TWO child who WANTED ONE MORE ahahahahah

just IMAGINE a life of woman in 2016 with a Tinder when she can travel to a new city or country and find a hot guy to raw dog her in the nearest toilet in a FEW minutes AND nobody will know about that except her and guy (I mean she can return at home and pretend to be innocent and nice again)

AND how pathetic it is for sub 7/10 guy who need to SHOW A "GAME" and go to countless datings (where he need to pay of course) for touch a single vagina (also if sex will not good it will be ur fault)

it is OVER guys, it is OVER



Bro, game is everything!


You seem to fantasize a lot. I can assure you women are much picker in selectively choosing men, and do not partake in ****ing every guy like you want to believe. Women know they can have many guys, and get laid every night if they want hence they are very selective to find the right guy.

Men on other hand like myself, when we are bored go on these applications and try to find quick flings. Like last night I found out the girl I have been actively seeing could not make it over due to her work & site policy/clearance. I went on POF, and started talking to like 4 girls, got three numbers but turns out only one is in town the rest are still returning from our evacuation. I didn't get what I was looking for last night...
 

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Bro, game is everything!


You seem to fantasize a lot. I can assure you women are much picker in selectively choosing men, and do not partake in ****ing every guy like you want to believe. Women know they can have many guys, and get laid every night if they want hence they are very selective to find the right guy.

Men on other hand like myself, when we are bored go on these applications and try to find quick flings. Like last night I found out the girl I have been actively seeing could not make it over due to her work & site policy/clearance. I went on POF, and started talking to like 4 girls, got three numbers but turns out only one is in town the rest are still returning from our evacuation. I didn't get what I was looking for last night...

I do not care what they want, I am telling about the POSSIBILITY.

You or me may desire whatever we want to but we do not have the POSSIBILITY. They have. That's why they are picky.

You are confusing cause and effect (not sure how to say it on english).
 

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Good talk, but it's not that complicated. Everyone, including men, seek the best bang for their buck - if they can have someone better looking, richer, smarter, funner etc, they will jump for it if the OPPORTUNITY is available. Us in the western world live a life of many OPTIONS for education, jobs, property ownership etc - it's just called freedom and we take it for granted. In other parts of the world were you are either a farmer or miner, and your marriage is arranged by family the divorce rate is much lower only cause they don't have much for OPTIONS. Take the same person and put them in a western environment and only a matter of time before they succumb. And in general people will overvalue their attractiveness in the dating market - that's why matches don't happen that often, people always think they can do better. Once they have you your value instantly goes down in their eyes, like a cheetah in the Serengeti that just captured its prey - that's why "playing hard to get" is a common strategy.
 

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I do not care what they want, I am telling about the POSSIBILITY.

You or me may desire whatever we want to but we do not have the POSSIBILITY. They have. That's why they are picky.

You are confusing cause and effect (not sure how to say it on english).


We as men have the possibility, women on other hand have a guarantee at their finger tips. That's the difference.



I unno man, It doesn't phase me because I don't have problems meeting women at all. It is just a matter of quality, and getting the cream of the crop that will always be the chase for me, and most men.


Getting a piece aint difficult.
 

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anyone who watches these shows are beta-cuckold-nut shake guzzlers in the making!

indeed, and any woman that expects men to be like this simply...sucks
 

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Then all women suck.

Had a date last night with a girl who was 24 and had never been more than a month in a relationship. She said she was very demanding... despite being as interesting as a rock. She justsat there having nothing funny or of substance to say, just the most colorless platitudes.

It's always the most boring women who think they deserve someone exceptional. She also hinted that I wasn't ambitious enough and that I was lazy because I wouldn't aim for a more prestigious job.

What prestigious job is she fulfilling?
 

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The guy from season 9 is losing hair.

[video=youtube;AUxzbYKnCsw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUxzbYKnCsw[/video]
 

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He has a receding hairline; however, the crown is ok. I think a "monk's crown" is a no-no on TV...

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She works in a small PR start-up.

Said she was close to a burn-out and had to force herself to go to work.

God I wish I was as "ambitious" as her, sounds like a fulfilling life.

You know what this combo probably means, right? "You should have a better job" + "I cannot go to work anymore, poor me" = "if you were richer I would try and be your housewife."
 

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Not a housewife I would want. Fuhk the bachelor, jerk off to real p**rn. I mean you could be a back alley bj hound like shuk.... always chasin that tail (because hes got it like that) but there comes a point where you realize it just isnt worth it to jump through hoops and put up with so much bullshist when you can squiz one out real quick and then go be productive.

I actually cant wait for the time when sex dolls become more commonplace to the point where most guys use them to replace real women. Imagine how collectively miffed all women would be if men everywhere just stoped chasing them? It would be great... and well deserved on their part.
 
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