Anecdotal Evidence For Regional Variation In Online Dating Difficulty

Baldingat188

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its in my profile. i've lived in north carolina since i was 10. before that , texas and louisiana. been cuzzin fuckin since way back . i keep it fried, dipped in butter, and with extra crime and poverty :D. oh but at least we got "diversity"!

At least you got warm weather there man. I'd like to live down there
 

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It is definitely true that alot of girls could do better and be viewed as beautiful, but saying 'there are no ugly girls, only lazy ones.' is as blue pilled as it gets.
Some people just don't have the genetics no matter how much they work out, or how nice their clothes are and how expensive their make-up is or whatever they will always be ugly. It's called genetic garbage.
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I agree , I find the looksmaxing thing kind of annoying . Sure it works great for people who don't think about their apperence typically. But what about people who are already "looksmaxing" but get screwed over by baldness and height ?
 

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I agree , I find the looksmaxing thing kind of annoying . Sure it works great for people who don't think about their apperence typically. But what about people who are already "looksmaxing" but get screwed over by baldness and height ?

What height are you? I grew a small bit from 18 to 21. I have a stick with dates I can check when I get home how much.
 

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Looks maxing doesn't help with height, frame, facial symmetry, and ethnicity.

If you're average in those areas, and you looksmax, you may be able to hit a 7.

It is somewhat meaningful in our society though as the average person is lazy, or simply doesn't do so due to lack of means.
 

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It is definitely true that alot of girls could do better and be viewed as beautiful, but saying 'there are no ugly girls, only lazy ones.' is as blue pilled as it gets.
Some people just don't have the genetics no matter how much they work out, or how nice their clothes are and how expensive their make-up is or whatever they will always be ugly. It's called genetic garbage.
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I take your point on board.

There is a danger with using the blue pill rhetoric to dismiss the argument of self improvement as nothing more than clap trap because it reduces the concept of sexual attraction to a mere genetic determinism. Obviously this is reductive, and to be reductive is to simply miss out on some compelling evidence which should prove otherwise.

The lady above, for instance, has a weak chin and by wearing her hair up has allowed this 'flaw' to be highlighted.

But there are a thousand other factors which can improve or diminish your looks. I think a telling place to begin is by looking at studies on twins who have different lifestyles. There is some conclusive research which clearly shows that simple factors such as smoking can seriously alter ones face over a decade.

Anyway, I would go on but I would hate this to turn into an academic essay on health and environment.

Needless to say, there are a thousand factors which attribute to our own physical appearance, and it is our best interest to manipulate those In which we can.
 

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also is it just me or are affluent or rich places the best looking? i went to a rich part of florida and goddamn there were so many beautiful people jeez. they all looked so perfect. i often go to a richer suburb of richmond virginia and the people there are noticeably hotter than the people in the neighboring poor suburb.

same in raleigh and then seeing the people in the neighboring rich preppy chapel hill. chapel hill was ridiculous. everyone was hot i was like wtf

Yes and there are multiple reasons why.

1) People with money have better means to maintain looks, from organic food to personal trainers, to better clothes and hairdressers, to braces to plastic surgery like hair transplants and boob jobs.

2) Beauty is correlated to drivers of success such as intelligence.

3) More beautiful people get more love for the world and probably succeed more, all things being equal.

4) They also get more encouragement which will translate into better drive, and thus things are not equal in the first place. For example we would all be doing better if we didn't have to worry about this sh*t.

I'm not sure which factors dominate, I'm guessing number one and number four.
 

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Looks maxing doesn't help with height, frame, facial symmetry, and ethnicity.

If you're average in those areas, and you looksmax, you may be able to hit a 7.

It is somewhat meaningful in our society though as the average person is lazy, or simply doesn't do so due to lack of means.
Yes, there are things beyond our control and things within our control.

It would be wise to accept the things that are beyond your control and to manipulate those that you do.

There is no excuse (for the majority) to be overweight, bad skin, bad clothes, stained teeth, bad posture, bad breath, and so on.

You may find that manipulating these variables can take you from the 'would not f***' category to the 'would f***' category.
 

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Solid post as per usual David. I always found #2 an illuminating (if also depressing) idea. I'm not clued up on the science, but am I right in thinking they've proven there to be a correlation between IQ and physical attractiveness? I've certainly heard it be claimed before. It's funny, I remember when I was a tween and I used to be obsessed with those typical 'high-school loser turns cool kid' plot movies (no prizes for guessing why! :p ). They always preached the same thing; 'the popular kids may have it good now, but in 5 to 10 years it'll be different, the jocks will be homeless and the maths bods will rule'. Unsurprisingly, lifer didn't turn out that way. All the beautiful/popular kids at my high school (and university) were all pretty smart: they weren't Einstein's or anything but they were getting good grades (maybe top 15-30% of the class). Most of the so-called 'nerds' that I knew weren't actually any smarter than them, they just worked a lot harder and at A-level many of the popular kids actually wound up outscoring them. Just look at the 'Greensborough Jock'. Sluthaters assumed he was a drop-out but he was actually a multi-million £ businessman. It also helps, of course, that you don't actually need to be particularly book-smart to make some good money these days. An IQ of 120 or so is more than enough to get on in life, and indeed, past a certain point, I'd argue that intellect can actually have a retarding effect. Social skills are just as important in business as brain-juice and the more popular/attractive people tend to have this in spades. Probably why they're so successful.
They should see the academics at my university. Trust me - there aren't too many good looking academics.
 

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5"6 and just started propecia .. doubt there is much hope to grow :(

It's going to be very hard for you at 5'6.

You can get a good woman, but you don't have much of a safety margin.

Keep your hair, stay slim, build muscle, have good hygiene, have a good life and prospects.

Not all women care about height but you'll have to catch a wide net to meet them.
 

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If I recall correctly, the correlation between IQ and looks is around +0.4. That's meaningful.

How about the correlation between IQ, and financial income?

people with the highest IQ tend to make the most on average.
 

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Looks maxing doesn't help with height, frame, facial symmetry, and ethnicity.

If you're average in those areas, and you looksmax, you may be able to hit a 7.

It is somewhat meaningful in our society though as the average person is lazy, or simply doesn't do so due to lack of means.
People got the wrong idea of looks maxing.

they think whitening there teeth, tanning, and trimming there beard are ways to max out aesthetics


It's all about as you mentioned the structure underneath, and foundation.


i.e whitening your teeth. it's not so much the color, but the structure, alignment, size, and projection of the teeth. Nobody cares about the color of your teeth if the foundation is crap to begin with.

Beards, and facial hair being no different.


Only way to looks max is through hair restoration, plastic surgery, and exercise.
 

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How about the correlation between IQ, and financial income?

people with the highest IQ tend to make the most on average.

The first two Google links say it's +0.4, that number shows up twice lol.
 

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People got the wrong idea of looks maxing.

they think whitening there teeth, tanning, and trimming there beard are ways to max out aesthetics


It's all about as you mentioned the structure underneath, and foundation.


i.e whitening your teeth. it's not so much the color, but the structure, alignment, size, and projection of the teeth. Nobody cares about the color of your teeth if the foundation is crap to begin with.

Beards, and facial hair being no different.


Only way to looks max is through hair restoration, plastic surgery, and exercise.

On the other hand, what's the value of properly aligned yellow teeth?
 

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On the other hand, what's the value of properly aligned yellow teeth?
the base, and foundation to aesthetics.

Yellow is extreme, I would say in-between would be more accurate. As most people are not walking around with completely stained yellow teeth.


Our brains can register that there teeth are clean, and perhaps this can be an indicator of good hygiene. On a genetic level, and aesthetic appearance we still think they look like sh*t.
 
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It's going to be very hard for you at 5'6.

You can get a good woman, but you don't have much of a safety margin.

Keep your hair, stay slim, build muscle, have good hygiene, have a good life and prospects.

Not all women care about height but you'll have to catch a wide net to meet them.

I know , it really sucks feels like a disability. That being said I'm lucky to have a decent face (with hair) but if I go bald I will defiantly be doomed
 

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Yes and there are multiple reasons why.

1) People with money have better means to maintain looks, from organic food to personal trainers, to better clothes and hairdressers, to braces to plastic surgery like hair transplants and boob jobs.

2) Beauty is correlated to drivers of success such as intelligence.

3) More beautiful people get more love for the world and probably succeed more, all things being equal.

4) They also get more encouragement which will translate into better drive, and thus things are not equal in the first place. For example we would all be doing better if we didn't have to worry about this sh*t.

I'm not sure which factors dominate, I'm guessing number one and number four.

I have nice clothes but also sometimes I just wear cheap *** v necks (with nice jeans) and I still look good.. most likely because of my 17 inch arms with good delts and veins pumping out of my arms. If your big and lean you can get away with wearing anything.
 

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I have nice clothes but also sometimes I just wear cheap *** v necks (with nice jeans) and I still look good.. most likely because of my 17 inch arms with good delts and veins pumping out of my arms. If your big and lean you can get away with wearing anything.

Five minutes of licking DD tits and your confidence has skyrocketed lol.
 

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Five minutes of licking DD tits and your confidence has skyrocketed lol.


Not really Dave, I just noticed when I was a framecel that no shirts ever fit me properly. It's even very difficult for me to find jeans with a 29 waist. I always go for slim fitting shirts now so it tapers at the waist.
 
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