Anyone else wishes they were a skeleton?

[Caillou]

So both are proper historical sources and not only poetry or metaphoric. I am very interested in as well why essentially one race looks-wise has no language overlap in terms of roots. If you remove the likely Dravidic influence, then all of British Indian, all Arabs and all Europeans look roughly similar with similar hair distributions among beard, body and scalp hair. The Hittites were European, like Persians and Indians. We can to a great extent parse out proto-Indo-European but it doesn't seem to be done as much with proto-Semitic but language indicates that Ethiopia was outside of the African Black tradition linguistically which confirms links alleged relating to Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, the most mysterious woman in the Old Testament.

From a religious perspective, there's a source in Islam that after the flood of Noah, he had 3 sons: Sam, Ham, and Japheth. Sam was the ancestor of Arabs, Persians and Europeans. Ham was the ancestor of Blacks and other dark races, Japheth was the ancestor of Turks, Mongoloids and Slavs

 

[Caillou]

It seems that Egypt used to be the center of "Arab" culture before Mecca and Medina but the Egyptian gods seem to vary greatly from the Semitic/Caananite gods. With the conquest of Carthage, one forgets that Muslims simply returned the Semitic languages to the areas that were taken by and then taken from Rome. It is also overlooked that Canaanites, Phoenicians, Jews and people in Carthage spoke a very similar language and were of all but identical genetic stock. In terms of baldness, all of it spreads baldness genes outwards and probably doubles down on baldness genes in people from near the Mediterranean or Middle East.

There was actually a popular theory that ancient Egyptians spoke in a Pseudo-Arabic language, even though they didn't write in Arabic letters. As an Egyptian, i can spot that we have few words inherited from ancient Egyptians and they actually sound kinda Arabic to me even though they don't make much sense when you think about them

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Arabs used to worship the same God as Muslims, the Abrahamic God. The problem is that they used to worship other things - Idols - with said God because they believed that it somehow got them closer to God. Islam preaches the message of only one God, and that no other thing in existence except him is worthy of worship, that's why Muslims got treated terribly during the beginnings of Islam in the Arabic world


About the moon claims, it comes from the misunderstanding of how crescent is often used as an Islamic symbol, but this is not actually official in Islam. It's just something people came up with because the crescent moon symbolizes the coming of Ramadan, which is the most important month in Islam. Other than that, we have no relation at all to the moon that i can think of

Arabs versus Arabians is not well developed in terms of distinctions. Before the assumption of traditional Arab lands by the English, Turks and others, Arab myth and tradition was very favorably viewed in the U.S. Probably horribly stereotypical but we had something called the Arabian Knights on television, Sinbad was huge, similar to Tarzan who also used to be huge and the story telling from Arabian nights is highly regarded as shown in the Disney movies made to be probably PC about Aladdan and the thieves. My mental picture of Eunuchs as huge fat guys comes from that but Jinn are also portray similar to Eunuchs in some cartoons. Eunuchs have fascinated homosexuals and many men in general. The concept of the Harem is fascinating in terms of the psychological efforts of almost no testosterone and the exclusion of Muslims from the practice seems to have often been contrived to discourage male Christians from not choosing Islam in areas where it crossed with Christianity. Or as Janey says: you pays your money and you takes your chances which is deliberately misconjugated to make it sound like a yokel uttering it. Meaning that many Jews and Christians converted or hid their religions depending upon who was in power. Jews were usually treated far better by Muslims, another paradox and I don't think differences between Muslims and Jews is well developed at all meaning I think it's the same religion and with Jewish dispersal, all three religions evangelize, Jews less so because they believe the "burdens" of being Jewish are only required of "Jews" whatever that means but it's basically an opposite way of saying Jews have a different relationship with God than Muslims or Christians in terms of being ethnically chosen or very close to that with the mother only carrying the Jewish designation short of conversion and circumcision. Circumcision was a huge issue in times of conversion and most Jewish converts were female. It's not required of Christians and scripturally it's discouraged by St. Paul. Many fundamentalist Christians do it anyway reflexively.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

From a religious perspective, there's a source in Islam that after the flood of Noah, he had 3 sons: Sam, Ham, and Japheth. Sam was the ancestor of Arabs, Persians and Europeans. Ham was the ancestor of Blacks and other dark races, Japheth was the ancestor of Turks, Mongoloids and Slavs

Racists here treat Ham very poorly as though destined to slavery forever by God. So now we need to look at unmixed Turkic people for baldness but I think they had only slight beards plus the mixing was huge among Greeks and Semites and Turkics.

 

[Caillou]

Arabs versus Arabians is not well developed in terms of distinctions. Before the assumption of traditional Arab lands by the English, Turks and others, Arab myth and tradition was very favorably viewed in the U.S. Probably horribly stereotypical but we had something called the Arabian Knights on television, Sinbad was huge, similar to Tarzan who also used to be huge and the story telling from Arabian nights is highly regarded as shown in the Disney movies made to be probably PC about Aladdan and the thieves. My mental picture of Eunuchs as huge fat guys comes from that but Jinn are also portray similar to Eunuchs in some cartoons. Eunuchs have fascinated homosexuals and many men in general. The concept of the Harem is fascinating in terms of the psychological efforts of almost no testosterone and the exclusion of Muslims from the practice seems to have often been contrived to discourage male Christians from not choosing Islam in areas where it crossed with Christianity.

I see, but btw castration is a huge sin in Islam even for animals, unless there was crucial reason to do so - danger for health, etc - that's why i don't really like the tradition that the Ottomans used to apply by castrating slaves in order to eliminate their sex drive and keep their Harem safe. It's an extremely oppressive and unfair thing to do in my opinion because it violates one of the most basic rights of having a sex drive, and it's one of the main things where the Ottoman Empire really fucked up

 

[Caillou]

Racists here treat Ham very poorly as though destined to slavery forever by God. So now we need to look at unmixed Turkic people for baldness but I think they had only slight beards plus the mixing was huge among Greeks and Semites and Turkics.

Baldness will always be a fascinating mystery to me despite how cruel and unfair it is

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I see, but btw castration is a huge sin in Islam even for animals, unless there was crucial reason to do so - danger for health, etc - that's why i don't really like the tradition that the Ottomans used to apply by castrating slaves in order to eliminate their sex drive and keep their Harem safe. It's an extremely oppressive and unfair thing to do in my opinion because it violates one of the most basic rights of having a sex drive, and it's one of the main things where the Ottoman Empire really fucked up

Thanks for that distinction and that might related to different traditions among Arab Muslims and Turkic Muslims and island Muslims.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Baldness will always be a fascinating mystery to me despite how cruel and unfair it is

I am guessing your religion rules out estrogen except for prostate cancer or that it is associated with being gay, the use of estrogen. I have had people from Arab nations particularly Lebanon who have asked me for different sources for hormones and they might require direct shipping and not mail shipping. Maybe Morroco too. I would love to visit the Pied Noir for French possessions. Camus was from there and it was the same as Hawaii is for us and considered part of France. This is your thread so it's okay I think to post about semi-unrelated material but note how Janey always turns things into a baldness parallel issue. If you DM me, it would be interesting to see where you are from. In spite of your sadness and compulsion, you seem to be an excellent and intelligent person and extremely eloquent defender of your faith. Fundamentalists here always make you go around in circles and hell and what it means to accept Jesus and the unforgiveable sin which is also the never to be named sin but apparently it's a bad one and not related to sex even.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

So the name Allah predates Muslim times and it is definitely it seems related to Assyrian/Canaanite words for God from the get-go. This buttresses my somewhat off the cusp but measurably studied, idea about El being the first name of God/Goddess. There are often storm god and bull references associated with this which makes sense related to Baal. Fascinating stuff really. I want now to know more about the pre-Ishlamic names of gods and goddess in Arabia. Islamic vs. Ishlamic seems to correspond too.

Allah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Caillou]

I am guessing your religion rules out estrogen except for prostate cancer or that it is associated with being gay, the use of estrogen. I have had people from Arab nations particularly Lebanon who have asked me for different sources for hormones and they might require direct shipping and not mail shipping. Maybe Morroco too. I would love to visit the Pied Noir for French possessions. Camus was from there and it was the same as Hawaii is for us and considered part of France. This is your thread so it's okay I think to post about semi-unrelated material but note how Janey always turns things into a baldness parallel issue. If you DM me, it would be interesting to see where you are from. In spite of your sadness and compulsion, you seem to be an excellent and intelligent person and extremely eloquent defender of your faith. Fundamentalists here always make you go around in circles and hell and what it means to accept Jesus and the unforgiveable sin which is also the never to be named sin but apparently it's a bad one and not related to sex even.

I will DM you soon to talk about various things, you can also DM me anytime. Anyway, i think in Islam the use of estrogen would be allowed if the person's health was really in danger. We're even told that if you're about to starve to death and find a human corpse, you're allowed to eat it and survive. And at the same time, if you have a sickness and you want to embrace death and not get treated, you're free to do so, and it'd not be considered a suicide, as you're not responsible for the disease occurrence


For transgenders, i will be clear with you. There are two types of transgenders in Islam. Firstly, those who are born without a clear gender - Hermaphrodites for instance - are allowed to see which gender they prefer and then transition to said gender. For the other cases though, it depends. They generally should consult specialists, as i saw in a fatwa before, since some cases can be unique. But generally, if you're a functioning male or a female with no issues, then transitioning would be considered a huge sin, as it changes God's original creation without correcting a mistake. You might find that conflicting as a transgender person, but i'm just being honest with you as i don't like twisting my beliefs and sugarcoating them in order to make them more appealing to others, and i think you're owed honesty in our discussion since we've been in more than one so far

 

[Caillou]

So the name Allah predates Muslim times and it is definitely it seems related to Assyrian/Canaanite words for God from the get-go. This buttresses my somewhat off the cusp but measurably studied, idea about El being the first name of God/Goddess. There are often storm god and bull references associated with this which makes sense related to Baal. Fascinating stuff really. I want now to know more about the pre-Ishlamic names of gods and goddess in Arabia. Islamic vs. Ishlamic seems to correspond too.

Allah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, God actually has 100 names in Islam and we know 99 of them. Allah simply means God in Arabic, the same way Dieu means God in French. That's why i find it ignorant when some Westerns think that Allah is exclusive or a new God for Muslims only, when Allah is simply the Abrahamic God in Arabic language, especially since Christians and Jews from the MENA call God Allah as well

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Islam seems emphatically focused on Allah as being the one and only God from which springs the universe. The doctrine of the trinity largely erases that aspect from Christianity and the Jewish tradition related to El and Yahweh seems to spring completely from pagan traditions. They were either father El and son Yahweh or similar to Zeus and Poseidon. Orthodox believers join Muslims in not believing in the trinity for good reason since the idea of the Spirt of God as a separate person is absent in the Bible and thus the Holy Spirit is just something emblemic of God.

Jesus seems all but entirely a combination of Jewish messianism, Persian tradition related to Mithras, greatly embraced by Roman soldiers and Egypt/Greeks gods that rise from the dead or ebb and flow somehow like Osiris, Dionysus and Ceres/Demeter.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I will DM you soon to talk about various things, you can also DM me anytime. Anyway, i think in Islam the use of estrogen would be allowed if the person's health was really in danger. We're even told that if you're about to starve to death and find a human corpse, you're obligated to eat it and survive. And at the same time, if you have a sickness and you want to embrace death and not get treated, you're free to do so, and it'd not be considered a suicide, as you're not responsible for the disease occurrence and it's not really an environmental threat if you can spot my intentions


For transgenders, i will be clear with you. There are two types of transgenders in Islam. Firstly, those who are born without a clear gender - Hermaphrodites for instance - are allowed to see which gender they prefer and then transition to said gender. For the other cases though, it depends. They generally should consult specialists, as i saw in a fatwa before, since some cases can be unique. But generally, if you're a functioning male or a female with no issues, then transitioning would be considered a huge sin, as it changes God's original creation without correcting a mistake. You might find that conflicting as a transgender person, but i'm just being honest with you as i don't like twisting my beliefs and sugarcoating them in order to make them more appealing to others, and i think you're owed honesty in our discussion since we've been in more than one so far

I obviously follow nothing PC nor dogmatic about being MtF, transgender or "Just in it for the Hair" which under deep analysis might mean I was looking for an excuse to do this for hair. But what you mention could be a loophole for people with suicidal ideation or extreme hormonal imbalance which essentially every single guy on here suffers from and there are assertions by almost all of us that baldness is accompanied by very strong sexual urges which makes sense 100 percent. I am probably going to have to present as Will regardless for my children but I have to be on HRT for my health and I know that. It makes me a far better person and a Christian or Muslim in terms of preoccupations in my life. I am geared to erudite polymath intelligence and presumably to be rewarded for that in any afterlife.

The non-binary MtF is radically different from the concept of transsexualism and transsexualism was far less jarring to society than the MtF/Non-binary movement which I believe has greatly wiped out people who would formerly be thought of as homosexual. So SRS is what we used now to denote more or less something closer to transsexualism but it comes down to non-binary people not having any homosexual traits and binary MtF transgender people who would have traditionally be seen as the effeminate male homosexual partner. Many of the stereotypes are similar and when people "put on" transgender/homosexual voices they often sound similar and often contrived to be as "gay" as possible in mannerisms versus those who look and appear behavior-wise exactly like XX's.

 

[Caillou]

Islam seems emphatically focused on Allah as being the one and only God from which springs the universe. The doctrine of the trinity largely erases that aspect from Christianity and the Jewish tradition related to El and Yahweh seems to spring completely from pagan traditions. They were either father El and son Yahweh or similar to Zeus and Poseidon. Orthodox believers join Muslims in not believing in the trinity for good reason since the idea of the Spirt of God as a separate person is absent in the Bible and thus the Holy Spirit is just something emblemic of God.

Jesus seems all but entirely a combination of Jewish messianism, Persian tradition related to Mithras, greatly embraced by Roman soldiers and Egypt/Greeks gods that rise from the dead or ebb and flow somehow like Osiris, Dionysus and Ceres/Demeter.

It's simple, Yahweh is Allah is the Abrahamic God, the difference is that there's no trinity in Islam. The "father" is God and he's no father, the "son" is Jesus - a prophet - and he's no son, and the "holy spirit" is the angel Gabriel, just an angle meant to deliver messages from God, not really a part of anything. We acknowledge all three of them, but in a different light


Also about Jesus and the Jews, the Jews don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah - even though he was - they believe the true Messiah has yet to appear and will rule from Israel at the end of times

 

[Caillou]

I obviously follow nothing PC nor dogmatic about being MtF, transgender or "Just in it for the Hair" which under deep analysis might mean I was looking for an excuse to do this for hair. But what you mention could be a loophole for people with suicidal ideation or extreme hormonal imbalance which essentially every single guy on here suffers from and there are assertions by almost all of us that baldness is accompanied by very strong sexual urges which makes sense 100 percent. I am probably going to have to present as Will regardless for my children but I have to be on HRT for my health and I know that. It makes me a far better person and a Christian or Muslim in terms of preoccupations in my life. I am geared to erudite polymath intelligence and presumably to be rewarded for that in any afterlife.

As i said, the opinion of specialists is really crucial when it comes to this and it's not a simple issue. For me personally, i acknowledge that it's a sin, but i have no problems personally with transgender people - except the ones who are extreme to some degrees - as it's not like i'm a perfect saint who never sins myself and can cast judgements on others. I probably have done lots of bad sh*t myself, so i don't really like to judge anyone as they might be better people than me overall

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

As i said, the opinion of specialists is really crucial when it comes to this and it's not a simple issue. For me personally, i acknowledge that it's a sin, but i have no problems personally with transgender people - except the ones who are extreme to some degrees - as it's not like i'm a perfect saint who never sins myself and can cast judgements on others. I probably have done lots of bad sh*t myself, so i don't really like to judge anyone as they might be better people than me overall

There's also in Christianity the concept of eunuchs being full Christians while in the Old Testament they were excluded as were men castrated in war although I doubt this was anything but a metaphoric idea. So we have the idea in Catholicism of non-fornication being a remedy for the psychological condition while fundamentalists appear to believe that being gay or trans is a choice psychologically. My issuing of the coinage related to "Just in it for the Hair" is quite similar to that. The person is not psychologically gay say like Bridgeburn nor aligned that way if you will. HRT is just a detail then and note related to acquiring self-sex originating partners. I am bound forever by my Catholic vows not to remarry except for annulment but I wouldn't do that because of my children and also because although my X rejects me, I don't reject her and I am willing to make all accommodations for my children.

So I am still with the exact same sexual preference and same wedding vow obligations if she somehow becomes destitute or mentally incapacitated. My gender is legally female which is for practical reasons since people who look or dress like me get arrested far more often than heteros for things like disturbing the peace, lying to an officer, driving while trans, etc.

 

[Caillou]

There's also in Christianity the concept of eunuchs being full Christians while in the Old Testament they were excluded as were men castrated in war although I doubt this was anything but a metaphoric idea. So we have the idea in Catholicism of non-fornication being a remedy for the psychological condition while fundamentalists appear to believe that being gay or trans is a choice psychologically. My issuing of the coinage related to "Just in it for the Hair" is quite similar to that. The person is not psychologically gay say like Bridgeburn nor aligned that way if you will. HRT is just a detail then and note related to acquiring self-sex originating partners. I am bound forever by my Catholic vows not to remarry except for annulment but I wouldn't do that because of my children and also because although my X rejects me, I don't reject her and I am willing to make all accommodations for my children.

So I am still with the exact same sexual preference and same wedding vow obligations if she somehow becomes destitute or mentally incapacitated. My gender is legally female which is for practical reasons since people who look or dress like me get arrested far more often than heteros for things like disturbing the peace, lying to an officer, driving while trans, etc.

btw, what are you planning to do for your children in case they suffer from baldness in the future

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

A 60 year old tranny and an Arab who wears his pants like Steve Urkel and his hair like Ringo Starr discuss the metaphysics of Islam in a hairloss incel forum. What a time to be alive.

 

[Catagen]

A 60 year old tranny and an Arab who wears his pants like Steve Urkel and his hair like Ringo Starr discuss the metaphysics of Islam in a hairloss incel forum. What a time to be alive.

You confused @Caillou vs @Descending Dog.

 

[Caillou]

an Arab who wears his pants like Steve Urkel and his hair like Ringo Starr

wtf is that comparison