Anyone Just Consider Suicide? Why The Hell Not?

[Rudiger]

Flame away, you sensitive pricks.

You are genuinely one of my favourite posters on here (start with a compliment, but I mean it) but your attitude towards potentially suicidal people is morally reprehensible (and no that's not an over-statement), and this response just further proves it.

It's just "flaming" is it? What the f*** are you gonna say next, "haters gonna hate"? Maybe we're just jealous or some bullshit, maybe that's next.

To echo my sentiments from the last time I got pissed off about this, I would rather comfort an attention seeking "suicidal" person than possibly live with the idea that they could actually go through with it. You however, care more about saying "told ya so!" than giving a sh*t about another person ending their life.

That's a sign of extreme narcissism, and this is coming from someone who recently accepted they are a narcissist themselves.

Sorry for "flaming" and exposing an incredible flaw in your mental balance, haters gonna hate ey.

 

[buckthorn]

we've all considered suicide, I am sure... but we don't do it, because there are blue skies, mountains, flowers and puppies and sh*t.

 

[Rudiger]

we've all considered suicide, I am sure... but we don't do it, because there are blue skies, mountains, flowers and puppies and sh*t.

This is our only chance at life, and this is what keeps us going.

 

[Guzam]

The OP makes a comment downthread on page 1 about high norwoods tending to have thinned out eyebrows as well, citing Jason Stratham as an example of this. Anyone else agree or have noticed this?

True, I noticed this sh*t.

Truly balding people (NW3+ with top diffusing) all share some kind of hair defect that reverberates in all their body hair.
I want to specify these kinds of common traits are by no means a predictor of hair loss; but they are common among balding people.

These main defects I can recall are:

- thin eyebrow hair
- whisker hair above ears
- wispy beard
- wispy body hair
- wispy frontal hair
- 'lifeless' looking hair strands even at NW2 stage (lacking the fullheads' and women's lush)
- curly hair
- thin arm/leg hair
- back hair
- non conforming or hybrid hair pattern (straight on horseshoe area, wispy-wavy-curly on Norwood area)

I think all these correlate with the onset of hair loss. We need statistical significance studies about this but some non scientific studies about whisker hair are indeed available, like this one:

http://www.keratin.com/ac/baldnesspatterns/hairdefectsandbaldness/002whiskerhairabovetheears.shtml

Further proof is needed. I think hair patterns and texture are predictors of male pattern baldness but I can't prove it. If it can be proven, individuals at risk may begin finasteride treatment before the onset, eliminating the chances of getting even a NW2 and staying NW1 way longer.

EDIT: progressive kinking of hair has been correlated with hair loss in this study too. They refer to it as a rare condition, but I think this phenomenon can be observed quite commonly at lesser extent in many balding people (I have like a half square cm line of this kind of hair above the ears!)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4830168/#!po=29.1667

EDIT: also, I just discovered about UHS

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncombable_hair_syndrome

Many balding people lament the impossibility of combing because hair changed texture and pattern. UHS sufferers also display a slowed down hair growth, which is common in balding people.

I'm appalled by the lack of study of hair genetics and the mere classification of diseases, without a proper science behind it. We don't even know how DHT affects follicles in fact, we just know it happens. I'm appalled. The medical community truly failed in this field.

 

[DoctorHouse]

we've all considered suicide, I am sure... but we don't do it, because there are blue skies, mountains, flowers and puppies and sh*t.

Bucky, I am not going anywhere yet because I look forward to what your next post will say.

 

[pjhair]

we've all considered suicide, I am sure... but we don't do it, because there are blue skies, mountains, flowers and puppies and sh*t.

Not to mention family and friends. I think suicidal individuals should start spending more time with their family and friends if any. If they don't have any friends/family they should join some help group and start developing their network of people.

 

[GoldenMane]

You'd kick yourself if you jumped iff a building and next year Replicel/Shiseido released a treatment that stopped hair loss. or if you waited 3 years you could have paid Tsuji a visit.
Well you would if you weren't dead and still had the ability to kick yourself.
Assuming these treatments do what they're supposed to and come out on time. A big if...

 

[Notcoolanymore]

I'm a diffuse Norwood 3 V.

I am a member of this club. Yes it does suck, big time.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Wow you got gyno??? How bad?

Full C cup. I wouldn't say it looks bad though.

 

[hanginginthewire]

I'm to the point where I will still be devastated if a "cure" materializes. Sometimes I'll find myself getting excited by the prospect, however minute, and then it will occur to me that the cure still entails likely thousands upon thousands of dollars, hassle, embarrassment, and it can't give me all the time and enjoyment that hair loss has stolen from me. That's gone forever. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I hope for all of us there is a way out of this suffering, but for me there will be an aspect of too little, too late. I also don't think that a treatment/cure will make fullheads and the general society understand what we've been through. I think a big component of the suffering is the isolation and lack of compassion. If Tsuji rescues us, I imagine society will view those who take advantage of the technology as "vain" or compensating for something. Ashley Judd will probably make a hysterical/negative reference to Tsuji in her spoken word piece about Trump's 2021 reelection. I hope the treatments come ASAP I'm just saying the pain of hair loss will stay with me even if I reach Norwood 0 status through the miracles of technology.

 

[GoldenMane]

Yeah that's the big issue even if a cure comes, we'll have lost years of our youth/prime that hair loss took from us, or at least prevented us from reaching our potential or normality.
A cure in your 60s is useless. A cure in your 50s is useless. A cure in your 40s is a little better. A cure in your 20s or early 30s is worthwhile, even if you do have to live with your lost years.

 

[FutureSaitama]

I'm to the point where I will still be devastated if a "cure" materializes. Sometimes I'll find myself getting excited by the prospect, however minute, and then it will occur to me that the cure still entails likely thousands upon thousands of dollars, hassle, embarrassment, and it can't give me all the time and enjoyment that hair loss has stolen from me. That's gone forever. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I hope for all of us there is a way out of this suffering, but for me there will be an aspect of too little, too late. I also don't think that a treatment/cure will make fullheads and the general society understand what we've been through. I think a big component of the suffering is the isolation and lack of compassion. If Tsuji rescues us, I imagine society will view those who take advantage of the technology as "vain" or compensating for something. Ashley Judd will probably make a hysterical/negative reference to Tsuji in her spoken word piece about Trump's 2021 reelection. I hope the treatments come ASAP I'm just saying the pain of hair loss will stay with me even if I reach Norwood 0 status through the miracles of technology.

Out of curiosity: how old are you ?

 

[Bobster231]

I'm trying RU 58841, hoping for a miracle.

Finasteride is horrific and i don't believe that people don't have any side effects, DHT basically controls your sex drive and dick and mood even, I think some men just live with it.

And yes i still have a numb dick from Finasteride, and it definitely affects your mood.


I wish there was a way to remove the balding gene from my dna, like a serum you inject into your arm that destroys the gene.

 

[Bobster231]

How is it possible if my dad isn't bald, my maternal grandfather is a nw1 at 82, nobody in family was bald except my paternal grandfather. Slick NW7.

My dad should of been bald.

 

[FutureSaitama]

I'm trying RU 58841, hoping for a miracle.

Finasteride is horrific and i don't believe that people don't have any side effects, DHT basically controls your sex drive and dick and mood even, I think some men just live with it.

And yes i still have a numb dick from Finasteride, and it definitely affects your mood.


I wish there was a way to remove the balding gene from my dna, like a serum you inject into your arm that destroys the gene.

We all wish that.. you can also try topical liposomal finasteride, i've also had side effects from oral finasteride, but i am using topical finasteride for 1 week now with no sides so far.

 

[Bobster231]

We all wish that.. you can also try topical liposomal finasteride, i've also had side effects from oral finasteride, but i am using topical finasteride for 1 week now with no sides so far.

What were your sides?

Finasteride made me feel very depressed as well and anxious.

 

[Dench57]

DHT basically controls your sex drive and dick and mood even

Fascinating stuff Dr. Bob

 

[Bobster231]

And yet another "I'm gonna kill myself" thread by Bobster. Worse than Disney sequels.

Well, being bald already means being dead to me.

 

[blackg]

we've all considered suicide, I am sure... but we don't do it, because there are blue skies, mountains, flowers and puppies and sh*t.

And beer.

 

[Bobster231]

Has anyone on this forum actually castrated themselves?