ASC-J9 Finally available to buy

[.utilitarian.]

http://www.google.com/patents?id=abSsAA ... &q&f=false

 

[wesleyBelgium]

mmm we payed alot of cash for our 50mg of this....

where getting on the botom of this , can it be that a cheap version of china is the right substance ? and the verry expensive one not ???

will be investigating this ....

 

[.utilitarian.]

Who is your source in china? I tell you now that the prices from a supplier like cayman chemical is going to be way way over priced...

I coordinated a group a few years ago that ordered chemicals like this..

that group has since disbanded.. but if a small group would want to go for it again, we could do it.

 

[Hoppi]

Just looked this stuff up again on Regrowth (I can link later if people want when I'm back on my laptop) - so it degrades the androgen receptors like fluridil? Do we know if its more effective than fluridil, and if it has any systemic absorption?

Looking like potentially a good replacement

 

[smitysmity]

Anyone have any good stories about this?
How are people using this?
I noticed you need to store this in -20C Temperature?

 

[thomasD]

On dutch forum there are quite some people who are using it including myself for a couple of months. Not many spectacular results so far. The sebum production is lower, a couple of vellus hairs and bit thicker hair on the temples. I think more than 50 people are using it on the forum but not many people are posting on the ASC thread lately.

Where did you read that the ASC should be kept in the freezer?

 

[el_duterino]

Thomas, did people or yourself noticed any side effects ?

How much ASC are you using per day ?

The results you mentioned seem very good: some thickening of existing hair and
stopping of further hair loss is a great result and about as much as you can expect from effective anti-androgens like RU etc..

 

[thomasD]

There aren't many side effects reported. One or two people quitted because they couldn't sleep from they were too active at night because of the drug. Someone had dry skin all over his body after using ASC. But most people experience local dryness, because it reduces sebum production. I'm currently using 25mg in 60ml solution and apply 1-2ml per day. I don't experience side effects. I'm going to double the concentration next month.

 

[baldinglikeamofo]

i'm on ascj, no sides what so ever except that your hair turns orange.

Sometimes i get really freaked out because i think i see a bald spot, but when I look into the mirror really close, I was just fooled by an orange patch of hair.

I'm using the .025% concentration everyone else is using.

No sides whatsoever. The people claiming insomnia are being way oversensitive.

kane told me to keep it at normal temperatures, no refrigeration required.

on another note, i have no regrowth or thickening. Been on its for lil over a month and I'm not expecting much either even after 10 years. I will have to dye my hair back to dark brown again though.

 

[grove12345]

thanks for posting the results.

is there any other place to buy this stuff than the cayman site?

 

[thomasD]

K**tingchem

 

[el_duterino]

thanks Thomas, I will order some from koutin-g then.

this sounds like a good addition to RU

Can you please describe the vehicle/lotion that your group used ?
Is it the typical 60/40% ethanol and PG ?

 

[thomasD]

70% ethanol 30% PG is mostly used
some also use the minoxidil vehicle.

 

[zayin]

Most bought it from Kane from KT and paid loads of $$$ for it, much more affordable now. I've put it in Phlogel now for last few weeks (3 times a week) and the staining is much less than with ethanol/PG. I use a 0.10% solution. Skin is also very dry, much more so than when using ethanol/PG solution, but could be due to the Phlogel rather than ASC, no noticable effect on hair tho.....

 

[blaze]

How bad does this stain the hair and scalp?

Thats a big question for me. baldinglikeamofo has orange hair and by the sounds of it it doesnt wash out.

Does ASC wash off the scalp and hair with just a shampoo in the shower?

I kind of wrote this stuff off due to no one really reporting benefit from it, but it seems people are. Less oil on the skin means its doing something via antiandrogenic means. Less androgen receptors is always better.

 

[Rabid]

I would definitely be on this stuff if it weren't for the staining. It would be obvious on my scalp, especially around the hair line because I'm so diffuse now.

Mofo, keep updating on your progress with this stuff. With your poor response to the other treatments, should be interesting to see if this stuff pans out any differently.

 

[smitysmity]

Where did you read that the ASC should be kept in the freezer?

I will try to find the link again later.

 

[smitysmity]

K**tingchem

Just asked them for a quote.

 

[smitysmity]

Can you combine this with RU or CB?

 

[el_duterino]

Combining this ASC with RU is a very good idea and that's what I plan to do, especailly since RU is a lot cheaper.

In terms of results, this is again the typical case of "hardcore drug for hardcore male pattern baldness sufferers" syndrome.

Bascially, a lot of guys will try these new drugs because they had no results on finasteride or dutasteride, or they are already quite bald and guess what..they also won't have much results on ASC (or RU) simply because their hair follicles are past the stage where antiandrogens can save them.

You really need hair follicles in healthy shape to be able to prevent further hairloss by using these type of drugs.

I would say that the best candidate would be

1) someone who has decent results form finasteride or dutasteride but cannot stand the side effects, or
2)someone who has very good results from finasteride/dutasteride but the effect is just starting to wane off and more drugs are urgently needed to provide increased effectiveness to the treatment.