Ashley Judd Made A Speech At The Women's March And Brought Rogaine Into It

[nameless]

Again I'm on the left. I want to see less war, more investment in the third world, equal rights, tolerance, investment in the environment, et cetera.

But holy f*** the virtue signalling and the entitlement of people like Ashley Judd, Cate Blanchette, Meryl Streep can be incredibly infuriating.

If they really want to make the world a better place, they have the money to do so. They won't transform the world but they can have a genuine positive impact.

I admit that I didn't look at the video but what do you have against them protesting? What's wrong with protesting?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I admit that I didn't look at the video but what do you have against them protesting? What's wrong with protesting?

I have no objection to people protesting.

My objection was to Judd and people like her, which don't represent the entire march.

I approve of the platform of the women's march:
https://www.womensmarch.com/principles/

 

[nameless]

I have no objection to people protesting.

My objection was to Judd and people like her, which don't represent the entire march.

I approve of the platform of the women's march:
https://www.womensmarch.com/principles/

Ashley can be shrill. That's why I didn't look at the video. Sometimes she's screechy.

Glad to see you're not condemning civilized protest. Civilized protest is good.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Zircon definitely writes at a professional level.

I think I used to, but my writing skills have declined.

In my opinion Wolf Pack is the most lucid writer on the site.

You can never really lose your skills as a writer so long as you put the effort in.

 

[resu]

Again I'm on the left. I want to see less war, more investment in the third world, equal rights, tolerance, investment in the environment, et cetera.

But holy f*** the virtue signalling and the entitlement of people like Ashley Judd, Cate Blanchette, Meryl Streep can be incredibly infuriating.

If they really want to make the world a better place, they have the money to do so. They won't transform the world but they can have a genuine positive impact.

They could but they won't. We lost a decade of Mel Gibson movies over some BS while another director who is a convicted rapist is applauded and awarded by the same people that won't shut about about how bad Donald Trump is. I've always been critical of good deeds that are made at the cost of others and I've been a victim of such acts, which is why I don't believe in charity and I'm more of "teach them how to fish" kind of person. They're like those people that when they make a compliment they have to put other people down.

 

[nameless]

Trump is a fascinating character and I think people often underestimate what he's capable of. Like I wrote in another thread, he has a sort of inscrutable pseudo-intelligence to him; good observational skills paired with a freely associating mind that often leads him to useful insights that escape others.

But he is very problematic for a lot of reasons, not the least that he is easily distracted and largely uninterested in governing. He is also unprincipled to his core and easily influenced by those around him, typically whoever was the last to leave the room dictates what he believes on any given subject. If you look at the resumes of the people he has appointed they are unlikely to make choices that will lead to any kind of long-term benefits for the US. You might get a short-term economic boost from tax cuts, cuts to environmental regulations, infrastructure spending and deregulation of the financial sector, but the effects of those will pass and lead to more problems down the line. The infrastructure proposals he has come out with are essentially tax breaks to private investors, which will lead to an uneven allocation of capital. Basically, infrastructure projects that have a high utility but are not necessarily profitable (like maintenance work) will get less priority.

IMO there is a significant (20-30%) risk that the US will see a major armed conflict with another sovereign nation during his tenure. He is very bellicose in his rhetoric, not to mention tactless in diplomatic affairs, to an extent we've never seen in a US leader before, and tensions might easily blow up into armed conflict if the wrong sequence of events comes to pass.

Just the question of climate change alone should make you deathly afraid of the effects of a Trump presidency. His cabinet is full of people with interests in the oil industry, and while some of them do believe climate change is real (Tillerson), chances are they are mostly content to keep pushing more carbon into the atmosphere, thereby trapping more heat, acidifying the oceans even more and leading to stuff like soil erosion, reduced fish populations, less drinking water et.c. This will lead to more tension and risk of armed conflict around the world, as resources become more scarce and the world population keeps growing.

He hasn't divested himself of his business interests, won't be doing it, and indications are he is already being influenced by it. For example, rumors are that he brought up a permit issue for a project he was invested in to the Argentine president during a conversation. With things like the Carrier deal you now have a precedent of ad-hoc transactions where individual actors end up with preferential treatment if they do what the President pleases. All this pushes the US more in the direction of an African dictatorship, where the guy at the top calls the shots based on however he seems to be feeling that day, and has personal economic interests that influence his decision-making. Lobbying work is likely going to be intensified towards Trump and the people who orbit him, and less emphasis will probably be given to making structural changes that have a long-term positive impact.

I agree that many modern leftists are extremely sanctimonious and condescending and that Trump's election holds a sort of visceral appeal as an ultimate "f*** you" to these kinds of people. But I can't help but feel his election was a disaster for the US and the world and that we will be feeling the negative consequences of this (a true "black swan") for years to come.

Your prose is very good. And I agree with a lot of what you say.

But most of the modern leftists you see being extremely sanctimonious and condescending are the rich and famous ones. They're very rich and if they ever knew what it was like to struggle they've forgotten it. The "Regular Joe" leftists are more down to earth.

And I've seen studies which demonstrate that the left-wingers tend to have higher IQs so maybe there is some condescension among many of them. But hey, that's human nature - the same as the guys with hair look down on bald guys the smarter people look down on people who aren't so smart. It is what it is and it's probably human nature.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

We lost a decade of Mel Gibson movies over some BS while another director who is a convicted rapist is applauded and awarded by the same people that won't shut about about how bad Donald Trump is.

It's hard to argue with that.

Hacksaw Ridge was by far the best movie of 2016 for me.

(I have not seen Arrival yet by the way).

I have not seen Hacksaw Ridge yet.

Of the few movies I did see last year, the best were:
Elle
Lion
Arrival

Good, but not as good:
Hidden Figures
Star Wars Rogue One
13th

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Hacksaw Ridge was by far the best movie of 2016 for me.

(I have not seen Arrival yet by the way).

If you are looking for another good film then there is a film called Captain Fantastic starring Viggo Mortenson and it will just blow you away.

Here's the trailer:

I've been telling everyone about it for months.

 

[resu]

Hacksaw Ridge was by far the best movie of 2016 for me.

(I have not seen Arrival yet by the way).

Hacksaw Ridge had me on the edge the whole time, I thought I wouldn't like the romance part but I really enjoyed it, it was done in such a smooth and natural way, I can't wait until the HD version is out so I can watch the movie again. Denis Villeneuve can be hit or miss, I didn't watch Enemy till the end once I figured out what kind of movie it was going to be but Prisoners was one of the best movies ever made. Arrival was a big letdown, I didn't care about the aliens, the conflict between the nations, the gimmick and everything else.

 

[nameless]

There definitely was a thing going on where a certain subgroup of people were running around the media and internet taking offense to absolutely everything and shutting down alternative viewpoints in an extremely condescending manner. It seems to have died down somewhat but the backlash is still going strong. I couldn't give you a concrete timeline or any statistics to back up that observation, but I distinctly remember getting called "shitlord" and being told things like "it's not my job to educate you". It annoyed the f*** out of me and I found that the endless handwringing over trans rights, women in video games and other parochial topics took focus away from more pertinent issues like climate change.

What I don't understand however is how some people think that Trump's election is a good thing because it annoys these pompous, PC liberals. I find it hard to understand the mindset that gives priority to the owning of this subgroup of people over the quite devastating consequences his presidency will likely have to the future of the US and the planet.

I've seen the left waste time on some pretty far-out ideas. For example, I read somewhere that some on the left were starting a campaign to end lawn-mowing because grass is sentient life. On the other hand, I do think that trans-people are one of the groups most in need of protection. They aren't blades of grass; they're real live human beings being brutally murdered.

I'm also worried about Trump's volatility/unpredictability and his disregard for climate change. But like you so eloquently said, a majority of voters were sick of far-left people talking down to them, along with some of the far left ideas, so they voted as contrary as they could. And as a result we have a President who is an immediate danger to the USA and the entire world.

And I understand that those voters who are sick of far-left people would see me saying trans people need protection and say that I'm a also far left-winger but I think I have a valid point on that issue. Almost all of my left-wing concerns are in the mainstream of left-wing thought.

 

[g.i joey]

keep in mind that majority voted for clinton, something like 3 million more. Trump just got lucky and got the "more important" votes, whatever that means.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

There definitely was a thing going on where a certain subgroup of people were running around the media and internet taking offense to absolutely everything and shutting down alternative viewpoints in an extremely condescending manner. It seems to have died down somewhat but the backlash is still going strong. I couldn't give you a concrete timeline or any statistics to back up that observation, but I distinctly remember getting called "shitlord" and being told things like "it's not my job to educate you". It annoyed the f*** out of me and I found that the endless handwringing over trans rights, women in video games and other parochial topics took focus away from more pertinent issues like climate change.

What I don't understand however is how some people think that Trump's election is a good thing because it annoys these pompous, PC liberals. I find it hard to understand the mindset that gives priority to the owning of this subgroup of people over the quite devastating consequences his presidency will likely have to the future of the US and the planet.

Because we've already lost hope of any utopia that is on the horizon and we have resigned ourselves to the slow decay of civilisation. But while we watch our country fall we can at least troll some bleeding heart liberals before this whole place burns to the ground.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Because we've already lost hope of any utopia that is on the horizon and we have resigned ourselves to the slow decay of civilisation. But while we watch our country fall we can at least troll some bleeding heart liberals before this whole place burns to the ground.

You're goofing off but I actually agree that there was no great prospect of HRC tackling the country's problems. I felt no enthusiasn for her.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

You're goofing off but I actually agree that there was no great prospect of HRC tackling the country's problems. I felt no enthusiasn for her.

But there is some joy to the wailing.

Are you not enjoying it as they clutch their chests in earnest and weep tears because a man they don't like won a popularity contest?

 

[resu]

keep in mind that majority voted for clinton, something like 3 million more. Trump just got lucky and got the "more important" votes, whatever that means.

He didn't get lucky, he campaigned in order to win the EC which is what matters, Hillary just ignored the rust belt and only campaigned in the states near home at the end of the election, she thought she had it in the bag because of the polls.

 

[g.i joey]

He didn't get lucky, he campaigned in order to win the EC which is what matters, Hillary just ignored the rust belt and only campaigned on the states near home at the end of the election, she thought she had it in the bag because of the polls.

didnt mean it that way, i just dont know how you chose which vote holds more weight than others? a real democratic country should hold each persons vote equally.

 

[Rudiger]

Good god, why is Judd trying her best to sound like a loopy b**ch.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Good god, why is Judd trying her best to sound like a loopy b**ch.

An Oscar winning performance I might add......................

 

[Rudiger]

But it's so ridiculous to think that men are conspiring against womenly products, that there's this elite group of dude's going "let's not tax my rogaine, tax the b****s tampons instead". I mean this is tin-foiled hat stuff on the level of believing in the illuminati, yet guys who believe in that are labelled as basement dwelling dorito-stuffing losers (and rightfully so) but women believing that there's genuinely a conspiracy for being pro-erection and anti-period are empowered and enlightened.

 

[Baldingat188]

I have no idea how bad periods are but one day a month sucking sounds better then hating all the days of the months and years because of hair loss