At Norwood 5A, is it even worth doing the Big 3?

[XXXXXXX]

Of course there is. There's hair there so there's hair to lose. If I'm putting myself at 5A/6, there's still 7, plus it at least appears to be pretty thin on the side—I'll have a better idea in a few weeks when it gets longer. Could easily get thinner over time.

What's the point of maintaining a NW6 ? Sorry, but treatment for you is useless. Way too late.

 

[depressedguy]

you should think hair transplant instead of medical treatments.

 

[ianmichael101]

What's the point of maintaining a NW6 ? Sorry, but treatment for you is useless. Way too late.

All right allright, XXXXXXX, I think I know where you stand on this. Word of advice: you could work on being less of a dick on a hair loss support forum.

 

[Knock_knock_its_the_Gman]

He's not a dick. He's nicely pointing you to the right direction. You are bald. Sorry about that, but it's not our fault. You were poorly informed and educated about hair loss. And you are not NW5 this is also total delusion, you are a NW7, all NW7's have some dying hairs on their scalp.

And every single man thinks he's facially a 7.

There is nothing to gain from treatments at this point, guaranteed.

Look into scalp micro pigmentation and hair systems. Don't waste your money and your hopes in treatments. Treatments maintain, regrowth is rare and minimal. What's the point to go from fully bald to having a few sparse hairs on limited areas at the very best?

Scalp micro pigmentation, hair system or acceptance.

 

[hellouser]

Trust me, I speak for everyone when I say there's no point in jumping on any treatment now.

Agreed.

Only way out now would be through hair transplants IF they were guaranteed to offer donor regeneration. This *may* be an option if Dr. Wesley's Pilofocus method is confirmed to give consistent regeneration with the use of ACELL. That's also the nearest potential solution. We should know by around April of this year...

I hate to say it Ian Michael, but you're way too far past the point of any treatment working. No harm in trying though, but I wouldnt expect much of an improvement and it would only happen after quite a while, since pretty much all treatments take a long time to work. Even if treatments work, you're lucky if it maintains what you do have and almost NEVER gives more than 20% more hair... unfortunately you have almost none on the top to begin with.

I wouldnt classify you as NW5A either but rather NW6 maybe even NW7.

 

[ianmichael101]

I don't think it was nice at all—it was condescending. I'm not saying he's wrong, just not very tactful in how he communicated it.

This is what I hear: "IT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S ALL OVER FOR YOU!! WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU EVEN ASKING?!?! LEAVE US IMMATURE 21 YEAR OLDS ALONE TO WORRY ABOUT OUR NW2/3s IN PEACE!"

Aaaaaand... I'm out.

 

[hellouser]

I don't think it was nice at all—it was condescending. I'm not saying he's wrong, just not very tactful in how he communicated it.

This is what I hear: "IT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S ALL OVER FOR YOU!! WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU EVEN ASKING?!?! LEAVE US IMMATURE 21 YEAR OLDS ALONE TO WORRY ABOUT OUR NW2/3s IN PEACE!"

Aaaaaand... I'm out.

He was pretty blunt, but not at all a dick. It's just that youre interpreting it negatively... because the truth does hurt. You're past the point of return, there's really no point for you to go on treatments. You've got almost no hair at all to recover, and treatments only give 20% more at best.

 

[Knock_knock_its_the_Gman]

Enjoy staying in denial. NW2/3 is indeed the time to worry. You hair is lost, there's no going back given today's treatments effects that's a FACT. Read hellhouser's reply there might be some hope with new transplant techniques(start saving). But touching finasteride and minoxidil is POINTLESS in your case. Again that's a hard fact. Are you that delusional?

Time for plan B. SMP or hair piece or waiting for a donor regeneration strategy. Histogen and co= going nowhere.

 

[ianmichael101]

Enjoy staying in denial. NW2/3 is indeed the time to worry. You hair is lost, there's no going back given today's treatments effects that's a FACT.
...
Are you that delusional?

Wow, okay, I think I'll hand you the dick card, too. I'm delusional? In denial? For coming to a forum and asking a question, and being a bit defensive when someone jumps down my throat? And whatever stage I'm at, I'm not allowed to worry anymore—that's reserved for the NW2/3s? I should be content with having lost my hair in my mid-twenties and just shut up?

I'm guessing you're both in the NW2/3 range and in your early 20s. Rather than trying to support other people here, regardless of where they're at in the hair loss battle, you're seeking validation by knocking others down who you've determined are worse off than you. So very classy.

 

[hellouser]

Wow, okay, I think I'll hand you the dick card, too. I'm delusional? In denial? For coming to a forum and asking a question, and being a bit defensive when someone jumps down my throat? And whatever stage I'm at, I'm not allowed to worry anymore—that's reserved for the NW2/3s? I should be content with having lost my hair in my mid-twenties and just shut up?

I'm guessing you're both in the NW2/3 range and in your early 20s. Rather than trying to support other people here, regardless of where they're at in the hair loss battle, you're seeking validation by knocking others down who you've determined are worse off than you. So very classy.

No one suggested you should be content at NW6. None of us are content with being NW2/3/4+ either. We're all plagued by hair loss. Don't take the comments as an attack, they're not. Its a simple matter that the treatments will do next to nothing for you and thats 99.9% guaranteed. You've lost so much over the years that you're not going to recover.

It's too bad that all of us have had to resort to online forums for assistance and solutions out of this disease. NW2 or NW9, it sucks hard either way.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Some of the responses do sound a bit harsh, but sometimes that is exactly what we need. I wish somebody would have been straight up with me when it came to my hair loss. I didn't notice to what degree I had lost hair until it was way too late. I would say although everybody is saying it is useless, it can't hurt to try. You could get on the big 3 for six months for around $50. If it doesn't work, no big deal, it is only $50. If it does work you can come back on here and quiet some people.

 

[bibz]

Dude... the only way to go I would say is by hitting the gym as crazy as you can, cuz sincerely even hair transplant couldn't do anything since you seem to be thinning in your donor area as well....

 

[GoldenMane]

The only reason to get on the big three is to stop it going from a NW6 to an NW8. Cosmetically it really doesn't make much difference at this stage, but IF hair follicle replication becomes a reality in the next 5 or so years, then you won't need quite as many follicles copied and transplanted. If you think you may take advantage of a future surgical technique then it may be worthwhile going on finasteride (not minoxidil) to maintain what you have, but that's it. At your stage I don't think you really are a good candidate for hair transplant either, not enough coverage and donor hair to give good coverage in the balding area.

Hair systems and scalp micro pigmentation are the most realistic options at present, other than that you just have to hope for the availability of experimental surgical techniques to pick up the pace!

 

[XXXXXXX]

hair follicle replication becomes a reality in the next 5 or so years,

:uglylol:

 

[Knock_knock_its_the_Gman]

Okay so we told you the truth to save you from wasting your time and your hopes. Maintaining is the name of the game, and the hair loss battle is won by those who catch it early given today's treatments. You are far past the point of no-return. You should look into hair systems and call it a day it's a far more appropriate approach and it's infinitly better for your sanity.

But you just want us to tell you what you want to hear. So go ahead, yeah sure, finasteride and minoxidil and nizoral will give you regrowth and you will enjoy a beautiful happy ending.

 

[ianmichael101]

But you just want us to tell you what you want to hear. So go ahead, yeah sure, finasteride and minoxidil and nizoral will give you regrowth and you will enjoy a beautiful happy ending.

Dude, you're not listening to me. I don't have a problem with any of you saying that you don't think doing the Big 3 would be effective. That's fine. And you could very well be absolutely right. I was only getting upset because of the way you two were conveying it. It's the contentious, condescending language like "are you that delusional?" that I don't appreciate . I'm already in the process of getting a hair system (have been for a couple weeks, which is why I stopped shaving my head). It's at least one of the directions I'll be going. I posted here to get opinions on adding the Big 3, and plenty of constructive responses have been given in both the yea and nay camps. The majority of them have been helpful and appreciated.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Just a thought...Would it be a good idea for ianmichael to get of finasteride to at the very least save his temporal points? Even if he is going to get a hair system, good temporal points will make his new hair less obvious.

 

[ianmichael101]

For any who may be curious, I ended up getting a hair system a few weeks ago. The response from friends, family, and even people who hardly know me at all has been awesome​. Here are before and after pics:

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'm happy for you man. From what I can see you look good and if you are feeling better about yourself well then we need not say anything else other than that's wonderful. Thanx for sharing. I commend you for your courageous decision, it certainly paid off. All the best!

 

[ianmichael101]

Thanks, idw and johneuropa. I've been really happy with the results.

but I'm pretty sure you could regrowth a huge part of your hair on big 3, assuming you didn't try one of these products

The hair I still have on my sides has gotten pretty thin, so currently I'm using Nizoral every 2-3 days and taking finasteride every morning. I may introduce minoxidil later if I don't see any difference.