At What Point Do You Actually Wear Toppik?

[Rudiger]

I'm not actually considering this (although there must be a reason I'm writing a new thread about it) but, a lot of guys on here mention trying toppik, or going towards toppik at a certain point.

Don't you worry about the fact that, yesterday people could see your thinning scalp clearly, and today, it's magically covered up?

Toppik results actually are pretty amazing, as far as hair loss options, this has progressed so much in a relatively short amount of time (in comparison to treatments at least).

When you first decide to use toppik, what's your iniitial feeling to going out in public to those who know you? Because I can't get my head around that. For me, if you've convinced people you suddenly have more hair, they will either realise something has changed straight away, or talk amongst each other and realise it's changed. And to me that defeats the purpose, it may feel good with strangers, but who's meeting strangers all the time? Or cares what they think?

I can only imagine it if I moved to another country completely and knew I wasn't staying long.

 

[JeanLucBB]

I'm not actually considering this (although there must be a reason I'm writing a new thread about it) but, a lot of guys on here mention trying toppik, or going towards toppik at a certain point.

Don't you worry about the fact that, yesterday people could see your thinning scalp clearly, and today, it's magically covered up?

Toppik results actually are pretty amazing, as far as hair loss options, this has progressed so much in a relatively short amount of time (in comparison to treatments at least).

When you first decide to use toppik, what's your iniitial feeling to going out in public to those who know you? Because I can't get my head around that. For me, if you've convinced people you suddenly have more hair, they will either realise something has changed straight away, or talk amongst each other and realise it's changed. And to me that defeats the purpose, it may feel good with strangers, but who's meeting strangers all the time? Or cares what they think?

I can only imagine it if I moved to another country completely and knew I wasn't staying long.

"For me, if you've convinced people you suddenly have more hair, they will either realise something has changed straight away, or talk amongst each other and realise it's changed."

The same will happen if you start going to the gym and getting fit, losing weight or dressing better. This is a really negative mentality to have regarding self improvement. If it looks better, then who cares. Would you rather them think "Look at that big ugly bald spot" or "where did his bald spot go"?

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I'm a massive fan of toppik and I think it looks natural if you only use a little bit. I have nw3 temples which doesn't bother me too much, but I have mild thinning as well so I sprinkle a little on and I can almost look like a nw2. At the age of 31 I look like I have a pretty normal amount of hair on my head.

Obviously the toppik cant give me hair on my temples because you need some hair for it to work - but for areas of thinning it works a treat.

I started using it because when I shaved my head bald and it started to grow back it looked really bad so when it got to a half inch in length I started using toppik to look like I had a lot more hair.

I think the image below is a little over-kill but its better than the before:

 

[blackg]

For me, if you've convinced people you suddenly have more hair, they will either realise something has changed straight away, or talk amongst each other and realise it's changed. And to me that defeats the purpose, it may feel good with strangers, but who's meeting strangers all the time?

Yes, your friends and acquaitances are sure to notice and if they don't say it outright, then they are bound to talk amongst themselves about your fresh look.

 

[buckthorn]

With severe diffused thinning such as myself, toppix does NOT look natural. Under sun light, or any direct light, you can see right through the hair to the scalp which looks painted black.

 

[Roberto_72]

Anyone with significant thinning needs to use it imo. I've never got to that stage but if I did, I would have a transplant asap. I don't personally like the idea using toppik and briefly experimented with it (following my post surgery shaved diffuse period). It's a depressing feeling, felt like I was kidding myself. I'd feel that every morning when I applied it. Also it becomes a sad addictive clutch. It's also hard to use the same amount per day and achieve the same look. Some days you'll overdo it and others less so. It doesn't look that great under lights or in wet conditions, paranoia feeling too that it will rub off. It's a poor band aid. Using it on special days rather than daily seems more appropriate but also more confusing for the people you meet.

Transplant is permanent and gave a full head of hair, my own scalp hair. It was subtle with a mature hairline so no one noticed directly. Just comments like you look different, you look better. Have you changed your hairstyle, looks great, which I did, reverting back to an older one. I always had density so it wasn't a dramatic change.

Johnson is right, no one really cares too much about a Norwood 3 in their early 30s provided they are not very diffuse. Still as an older guy, I feel the value of full hair increases more as it's rare. It will be more apparent as we get into our 40s and 50s and have visibly aged. Then that full hair becomes crucial to maintaining the slightly faded looks and keeping fit. It doesn't change the fact a teen to early 20 needs a full head the most obviously.

Don't understand the fourth picture. If toppik is a powder, how can it give the impression that there are hair strands that had never been on those temples?

 

[Rudiger]

The same will happen if you start going to the gym and getting fit, losing weight or dressing better. This is a really negative mentality to have regarding self improvement. If it looks better, then who cares. Would you rather them think "Look at that big ugly bald spot" or "where did his bald spot go"?

In an ideal world! People laugh about another manager who dyes his hair black because he's greying, he's not even significantly grey, it's barely noticeable, while they don't outright shame him for it, there's a little smirk when it comes up in conversation.

It looks better, why the mini shaming?

Going to the gym or losing weight is difficult, and it's for your health and well being, or at least you can claim this, even if you go to build muscle. But because it's difficult and takes time and focus, people respect your effort and admire you for it. You really think you'll be admired for sprinkling sh*t on your head daily in a desperate attempt to give the illusion you have something you do not? And they'll laugh about who the f*** I'm trying to impress.

We can talk about how females use make up or whatever analogy or hypothetical you want that makes life unfair, but this is reality I'm talking about. And if you think it's the same as dressing well then, I don't know what reality you live in. Especially as this is coming from the guy who said he knows plenty of people who laugh at ugliness and despise it.

While I don't think people will "despise" toppik it would be a daily focal point as soon as it's detected. "Does he have it on again? Lol" "did he miss a spot?" "I guess he hasn't bothered today, maybe he ran out lol".

These are not self-centered thoughts, people in the work place and even friends are bored and male vanity is a big thing to discuss, especially if you are the type who seems solid and unphased generally as a person. People love to see that weakness and insecurity about anyone, and definitely about someone who seems to otherwise have their sh*t together.

I don't mean to attack here but if you think people don't care about such things and are openly embracing any type of self improvement you indulge in, then you are seriously deluded. I'm not saying they will dislike you for it or even think less of you, but you will be mocked and talked about for such a strange thing to do (in the eyes of society).

If you think otherwise, welcome to Copesville, population: you. And when the curtains lifted and you eventually realise you are a laughing stock, the pain of your deluded naive assumptions will hit so hard.

 

[shookwun]

you dont, it looks like utter crap.


If you insist though, very sparingly. Anything over done, goes beyond simple make up and makes you look like a walking bag of dust.





Dermmatch is the prefered, but requires moderate amounts of hair. Good product for those within early thinning.

 

[JeanLucBB]

In an ideal world! People laugh about another manager who dyes his hair black because he's greying, he's not even significantly grey, it's barely noticeable, while they don't outright shame him for it, there's a little smirk when it comes up in conversation.

It looks better, why the mini shaming?

Going to the gym or losing weight is difficult, and it's for your health and well being, or at least you can claim this, even if you go to build muscle. But because it's difficult and takes time and focus, people respect your effort and admire you for it. You really think you'll be admired for sprinkling sh*t on your head daily in a desperate attempt to give the illusion you have something you do not? And they'll laugh about who the f*** I'm trying to impress.

We can talk about how females use make up or whatever analogy or hypothetical you want that makes life unfair, but this is reality I'm talking about. And if you think it's the same as dressing well then, I don't know what reality you live in. Especially as this is coming from the guy who said he knows plenty of people who laugh at ugliness and despise it.

While I don't think people will "despise" toppik it would be a daily focal point as soon as it's detected. "Does he have it on again? Lol" "did he miss a spot?" "I guess he hasn't bothered today, maybe he ran out lol".

These are not self-centered thoughts, people in the work place and even friends are bored and male vanity is a big thing to discuss, especially if you are the type who seems solid and unphased generally as a person. People love to see that weakness and insecurity about anyone, and definitely about someone who seems to otherwise have their sh*t together.

I don't mean to attack here but if you think people don't care about such things and are openly embracing any type of self improvement you indulge in, then you are seriously deluded. I'm not saying they will dislike you for it or even think less of you, but you will be mocked and talked about for such a strange thing to do (in the eyes of society).

If you think otherwise, welcome to Copesville, population: you. And when the curtains lifted and you eventually realise you are a laughing stock, the pain of your deluded naive assumptions will hit so hard.

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These are not self-centered thoughts, people in the work place and even friends are bored and male vanity is a big thing to discuss, especially if you are the type who seems solid and unphased generally as a person. People love to see that weakness and insecurity about anyone, and definitely about someone who seems to otherwise have their sh*t together.

I don't mean to attack here but if you think people don't care about such things and are openly embracing any type of self improvement you indulge in, then you are seriously deluded. I'm not saying they will dislike you for it or even think less of you, but you will be mocked and talked about for such a strange thing to do (in the eyes of society)."

I largely agree with you, but the important point you're missing is that if you're at the point that you're balding badly enough to need toppik, they will mock you more for that aesthetic defect than they will for you using toppik. It's a lose/lose to a degree, but it is clearly better for people to laugh at your balding insecurity and toppik useage than it is for them to laugh at a bald spot. You don't know women if you think they aren't impressed by someone who works to better their flaws than someone who doesn't do anything about them. Roberto made a good point on another thread that people often see balding as a failure of action on behalf of the one balding which is why they feel free to insult bald guys, they are much more likely to be positive about someone who does take action.

I have more money than anyone I've worked with at my level, I'm smarter, I f*** better women, why the f*** should I care what those c**** think? If they're laughing then its their problem, not mine because the fact is I'm better than them. Obviously if you get a bad transplant or are drenching your scalp in toppik so it looks worse than before, that's a different issue.

You're not going to be more of a laughing stock for looking like you have a full head of hair out of nowhere than a bald spot.

Agree with Shook too though, it really depends on the extent of useage and if it actually looks better.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

There's very little risk of being discovered as the average person out there has never even heard of toppik. Most people are profoundly uninterested in, and bored by, hair loss products. Further, if you use it lightly, sparingly, and consistently, it is unlikely that other people will notice.

 

[Rudiger]

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These are not self-centered thoughts, people in the work place and even friends are bored and male vanity is a big thing to discuss, especially if you are the type who seems solid and unphased generally as a person. People love to see that weakness and insecurity about anyone, and definitely about someone who seems to otherwise have their sh*t together.

I don't mean to attack here but if you think people don't care about such things and are openly embracing any type of self improvement you indulge in, then you are seriously deluded. I'm not saying they will dislike you for it or even think less of you, but you will be mocked and talked about for such a strange thing to do (in the eyes of society)."

I largely agree with you, but the important point you're missing is that if you're at the point that you're balding badly enough to need toppik, they will mock you more for that aesthetic defect than they will for you using toppik. It's a lose/lose to a degree, but it is clearly better for people to laugh at your balding insecurity and toppik useage than it is for them to laugh at a bald spot. You don't know women if you think they aren't impressed by someone who works to better their flaws than someone who doesn't do anything about them. Roberto made a good point on another thread that people often see balding as a failure of action on behalf of the one balding which is why they feel free to insult bald guys, they are much more likely to be positive about someone who does take action.

I have more money than anyone I've worked with at my level, I'm smarter, I f*** better women, why the f*** should I care what those c**** think? If they're laughing then its their problem, not mine because the fact is I'm better than them. Obviously if you get a bad transplant or are drenching your scalp in toppik so it looks worse than before, that's a different issue.

You're not going to be more of a laughing stock for looking like you have a full head of hair out of nowhere than a bald spot.

Agree with Shook too though, it really depends on the extent of useage and if it actually looks better.

I forgot to address your question before which was something like "would you rather them mock your toppik or your bald spot?".

But you're wrong here too, at least in my culture. Nobody is really cruel enough to openly mock ugliness, or fat people, baldness will go down with that as well. Like in the years I've worked in my office baldness humour has come up literally only a handful of times, and most of that was self depreciation anyway.

Of course possibly because of my own hair issues then baldness is taboo around me but generally mocking people for obvious dysfunctions is cheap, distasteful, easy, and frowned upon.

Why is toppik different? It's unique and odd. It's juicy gossip. It's even better than someone dying their hair, because it's a daily expression of vanity. If a guy dying his hair is mocked, which is a fairly universal thing and has been for years (Just For Men adverts etc) then this bizarre hair sprinkle system will be laughed right out of the ball park.

And sorry but the "I'm better than them anyway who needs those guys" argument represents huge cope. Unless you're some sort of sociopath then every social creature will care what other people think, and in the same way we often laugh about others behind their backs (but for things they actually do and say, not just aesthetics, usually) we then feel distrustful that behind our backs, we are the ones then being laughed at.

I'm happy with my love life, money, whatever, no complaints, but I'm not insane, I have to be in the company of certain people regularly and that's just a part of life, and you'd have to be insane to be in a totally robotic bubble of "who needs these people I am surrounded by and interact with daily".

I just don't buy it, it's such cope. Actually even a sociopath would feel the hit of paranoia.

"Who needs people anyway I can have fun with my own thoughts, how about I make a game of it with myself to pass the time at lunch" lol

 

[Rudiger]

There's very little risk of being discovered as the average person out there has never even heard of toppik. Most people are profoundly uninterested in, and bored by, hair loss products. Further, if you use it lightly, sparingly, and consistently, it is unlikely that other people will notice.

I'm really not convinced by this, and part of my reasoning is to do with this very topic of "detection". Firstly I think it would be noticed, definitely, and then it would practically be a talking point/investigation as to what's going on there, and they'd figure it out pretty quickly after a Google search.

I am aware to some this may all sound paranoid but I really think everyone underestimates how much people get involved in each other's business. People Facebook stalk every post of a new starter before they're even in the building, they really do get right to the bottom of any hesitation or flaw in a person's character, and this isn't just in my culture.

I don't mean to be patronising to everyone who's thinking otherwise on this, but to me, if you think people don't talk about this trivial boring bullshit, then I don't think you really get to know people very well.

Well anyway I think you're being encouraging so that's appreciated and all but however this is all hypothetical, I have no intention of using toppik. For me personally it's like, I'd rather it be known I'm thinning than giving illusions. A hair transplant is different, that hair exists, but toppik is just not for me, in a way I'm struggling to explain.

 

[JeanLucBB]

I forgot to address your question before which was something like "would you rather them mock your toppik or your bald spot?".

But you're wrong here too, at least in my culture. Nobody is really cruel enough to openly mock ugliness, or fat people, baldness will go down with that as well. Like in the years I've worked in my office baldness humour has come up literally only a handful of times, and most of that was self depreciation anyway.

Of course possibly because of my own hair issues then baldness is taboo around me but generally mocking people for obvious dysfunctions is cheap, distasteful, easy, and frowned upon.

Why is toppik different? It's unique and odd. It's juicy gossip. It's even better than someone dying their hair, because it's a daily expression of vanity. If a guy dying his hair is mocked, which is a fairly universal thing and has been for years (Just For Men adverts etc) then this bizarre hair sprinkle system will be laughed right out of the ball park.

And sorry but the "I'm better than them anyway who needs those guys" argument represents huge cope. Unless you're some sort of sociopath then every social creature will care what other people think, and in the same way we often laugh about others behind their backs (but for things they actually do and say, not just aesthetics, usually) we then feel distrustful that behind our backs, we are the ones then being laughed at.

I'm happy with my love life, money, whatever, no complaints, but I'm not insane, I have to be in the company of certain people regularly and that's just a part of life, and you'd have to be insane to be in a totally robotic bubble of "who needs these people I am surrounded by and interact with daily".

I just don't buy it, it's such cope. Actually even a sociopath would feel the hit of paranoia.

"Who needs people anyway I can have fun with my own thoughts, how about I make a game of it with myself to pass the time at lunch" lol

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I just don't buy it, it's such cope. Actually even a sociopath would feel the hit of paranoia.

"Who needs people anyway I can have fun with my own thoughts, how about I make a game of it with myself to pass the time at lunch" lol"

Right but that's not what I'm talking about and clearly not comparable, no one is going to avoid you because you're wearing f*****g toppik.

"Unless you're some sort of sociopath then every social creature will care what other people think, and in the same way we often laugh about others behind their backs (but for things they actually do and say, not just aesthetics, usually) we then feel distrustful that behind our backs, we are the ones then being laughed at."

Seriously, that isn't even remotely similar to what I said, the only cope here is you trying cope with the fact that your argument is shitty.

And the "I'm better argument" actually does work, if people make fun of you for trying to better yourself you're hanging around the wrong people and should find better people, which isn't exactly hard work with the networking and dating facilities we have in the internet. No one laughs at someone for bettering themselves except to test insecurity, not out of disrespect. What you're saying is dogshit anyway, the fact remains that people will laugh at you less for transplants or toppik (done well) than having a bald spot.

People respect those who try to better themselves and fix the problems that cause insecurities, ESPECIALLY women, if you don't understand this I don't know what to say. It's just ignorance.

You cope for your inability to commit to self-improvement because of what others will think. That is what people find pathetic, not f*****g toppik.

 

[JeanLucBB]

I forgot to address your question before which was something like "would you rather them mock your toppik or your bald spot?".

But you're wrong here too, at least in my culture. Nobody is really cruel enough to openly mock ugliness, or fat people, baldness will go down with that as well. Like in the years I've worked in my office baldness humour has come up literally only a handful of times, and most of that was self depreciation anyway.

Of course possibly because of my own hair issues then baldness is taboo around me but generally mocking people for obvious dysfunctions is cheap, distasteful, easy, and frowned upon.

Why is toppik different? It's unique and odd. It's juicy gossip. It's even better than someone dying their hair, because it's a daily expression of vanity. If a guy dying his hair is mocked, which is a fairly universal thing and has been for years (Just For Men adverts etc) then this bizarre hair sprinkle system will be laughed right out of the ball park.

And sorry but the "I'm better than them anyway who needs those guys" argument represents huge cope. Unless you're some sort of sociopath then every social creature will care what other people think, and in the same way we often laugh about others behind their backs (but for things they actually do and say, not just aesthetics, usually) we then feel distrustful that behind our backs, we are the ones then being laughed at.

I'm happy with my love life, money, whatever, no complaints, but I'm not insane, I have to be in the company of certain people regularly and that's just a part of life, and you'd have to be insane to be in a totally robotic bubble of "who needs these people I am surrounded by and interact with daily".

I just don't buy it, it's such cope. Actually even a sociopath would feel the hit of paranoia.

"Who needs people anyway I can have fun with my own thoughts, how about I make a game of it with myself to pass the time at lunch" lol

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Also on this point "Nobody is really cruel enough to openly mock ugliness"

This is exactly my point. They will openly mock toppik useage because they don't see it as a big deal, hairloss is SUCH a big deal that people in close proximity often pretend not to notice.

 

[Roberto_72]

I forgot to address your question before which was something like "would you rather them mock your toppik or your bald spot?".

But you're wrong here too, at least in my culture. Nobody is really cruel enough to openly mock ugliness, or fat people, baldness will go down with that as well. Like in the years I've worked in my office baldness humour has come up literally only a handful of times, and most of that was self depreciation anyway.

Of course possibly because of my own hair issues then baldness is taboo around me but generally mocking people for obvious dysfunctions is cheap, distasteful, easy, and frowned upon.

Why is toppik different? It's unique and odd. It's juicy gossip. It's even better than someone dying their hair, because it's a daily expression of vanity. If a guy dying his hair is mocked, which is a fairly universal thing and has been for years (Just For Men adverts etc) then this bizarre hair sprinkle system will be laughed right out of the ball park.

And sorry but the "I'm better than them anyway who needs those guys" argument represents huge cope. Unless you're some sort of sociopath then every social creature will care what other people think, and in the same way we often laugh about others behind their backs (but for things they actually do and say, not just aesthetics, usually) we then feel distrustful that behind our backs, we are the ones then being laughed at.

I'm happy with my love life, money, whatever, no complaints, but I'm not insane, I have to be in the company of certain people regularly and that's just a part of life, and you'd have to be insane to be in a totally robotic bubble of "who needs these people I am surrounded by and interact with daily".

I just don't buy it, it's such cope. Actually even a sociopath would feel the hit of paranoia.

"Who needs people anyway I can have fun with my own thoughts, how about I make a game of it with myself to pass the time at lunch" lol

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In general I laugh when someone says they do not care about other people. If it were true, they would already be institutionalized. Man is a social animal.
Not even lions and hyenas don't care about other animals, imagine humans.

 

[JeanLucBB]

In general I laugh when someone says they do not care about other people. If it were true, they would already be institutionalized. Man is a social animal.
Not even lions and hyenas don't care about other animals, imagine humans.

In general yes, but on an issue like hair transplants or any self-improvement it really doesn't matter what colleagues think as it is unlikely to have a meaningful impact on your relationship with them.

Looking at toppik useage, if a subtle useage of the product clearly looks better but you have a few colleagues amused by your plight to combat hairloss, then there is no legitimate reason to care what they think.

There has to be a better reason to care about what they think over what you personally think for it to be relevant.

 

[Rudiger]

Also on this point "Nobody is really cruel enough to openly mock ugliness"

This is exactly my point. They will openly mock toppik useage because they don't see it as a big deal, hairloss is SUCH a big deal that people in close proximity often pretend not to notice.

You read the next paragraph right? Nobody's mocking things that are obvious, cheap and easy, actually not even because it's cruel but because it requires little wit or skill, and realistically people tell themselves they don't stand for it because it's disrespectful, in reality it's because it's not creative.

I think this analogy fits - nobody mocks a woman who is fat, it's not sociable, people may talk about her weight from time to time but it's seen as unnecessarily cruel to just outright mock a fat woman. However what if she takes time off to get a gastric band? I'm not saying it will be openly mocked, but that there is an interesting talking point. That's juicy gossip, and her weight loss, or lack thereof, will be discussed regularly for many months. Some people will give themselves moral points by going "good for her, what a positive change" and they will likely be the ones talking about it most. Acknowledging the embarrassment of needing surgical intervention to control a grown adults childish indulgence.

This completely foreign idea of hair sprinkles is definitely a talking point, and much more of a mockable one. Not like just mocking a totally bald guy because that's just shooting fish in a barrel, and nobody will really respond well to that at least if it's on a regular basis (and like I say, they'll not stand for it in the name of social courtesy, and the reality being they don't respect the one dimensional humour).

People don't pretend to not notice hair loss it's just that there's no reason to comment on it, and if you do for no reason then you are viewed as crass and superficial. The same as mocking any ugliness. It's boring and unnecessary, there's no excuse to bring this up or mock it.

But if it's interesting? Such as sprinkles of dust on someone's head?

Well play ball! Now we have something juicy to talk of an a legit excuse to mock someone's hair loss.

The truly awful gossipy c**** (which as it turns out are normally the most extroverted and fun people to be around, unfortunately) will be licking their lips at the mileage they'll get out of such a saga. Now they've got free reign to talk about it and from there test the boundaries of how much they can mock it, they are let loose, it's something new and exciting as a talking point, not like a fat guy or someone with unfortunate adult acne, this is way more justifiable as a talking/mocking point.

 

[JeanLucBB]

You read the next paragraph right? Nobody's mocking things that are obvious, cheap and easy, actually not even because it's cruel but because it requires little wit or skill, and realistically people tell themselves they don't stand for it because it's disrespectful, in reality it's because it's not creative.

I think this analogy fits - nobody mocks a woman who is fat, it's not sociable, people may talk about her weight from time to time but it's seen as unnecessarily cruel to just outright mock a fat woman. However what if she takes time off to get a gastric band? I'm not saying it will be openly mocked, but that there is an interesting talking point. That's juicy gossip, and her weight loss, or lack thereof, will be discussed regularly for many months. Some people will give themselves moral points by going "good for her, what a positive change" and they will likely be the ones talking about it most. Acknowledging the embarrassment of needing surgical intervention to control a grown adults childish indulgence.

This completely foreign idea of hair sprinkles is definitely a talking point, and much more of a mockable one. Not like just mocking a totally bald guy because that's just shooting fish in a barrel, and nobody will really respond well to that at least if it's on a regular basis (and like I say, they'll not stand for it in the name of social courtesy, and the reality being they don't respect the one dimensional humour).

People don't pretend to not notice hair loss it's just that there's no reason to comment on it, and if you do for no reason then you are viewed as crass and superficial. The same as mocking any ugliness. It's boring and unnecessary, there's no excuse to bring this up or mock it.

But if it's interesting? Such as sprinkles of dust on someone's head?

Well play ball! Now we have something juicy to talk of an a legit excuse to mock someone's hair loss.

The truly awful gossipy c**** (which as it turns out are normally the most extroverted and fun people to be around, unfortunately) will be licking their lips at the mileage they'll get out of such a saga. Now they've got free reign to talk about it and from there test the boundaries of how much they can mock it, they are let loose, it's something new and exciting as a talking point, not like a fat guy or someone with unfortunate adult acne, this is way more justifiable as a talking/mocking point.

"The truly awful gossipy c**** (which as it turns out are normally the most extroverted and fun people to be around, unfortunately) will be licking their lips at the mileage they'll get out of such a saga. Now they've got free reign to talk about it and from there test the boundaries of how much they can mock it, they are let loose, it's something new and exciting as a talking point, not like a fat guy or someone with unfortunate adult acne, this is way more justifiable as a talking/mocking point."

I agree this is likely, but again why does this actually matter? What actual difference is it going to make in your relationship to colleagues or friends? Very little overall, a source of mild amusement and gossip. This is a pure cost/benefit issue about whether the benefit of looksmaxing outweighs mild ridicule and gossip, which it usually does.

If you acknowledge it people tend to be much less likely to be interested in mocking it as well.

 

[Rudiger]

In general yes, but on an issue like hair transplants or any self-improvement it really doesn't matter what colleagues think as it is unlikely to have a meaningful impact on your relationship with them.

Looking at toppik useage, if a subtle useage of the product clearly looks better but you have a few colleagues amused by your plight to combat hairloss, then there is no legitimate reason to care what they think.

There has to be a better reason to care about what they think over what you personally think for it to be relevant.

Well that we can agree on, and I've improved leaps and bounds in recent years when it comes to caring less about what people think, and not afraid of being infallible.

However I still think realistically this vision you have does not apply to a lot of people, such as myself, and probably a lot of people on this forum actually who easily are sensitive to their insecurities.

You are making sense in theory but in practice you have to be a truly strong minded person to close out the "minor" bullshit and focus on your strong interpersonal bonds with people and the things that really matter.

For me personally, I am getting stronger but that true sense of security seems unobtainable. The old nagging self doubt will rear it's ugly head sooner or later and the longer it takes, the more foolish you feel for pretending not to care.

 

[Rudiger]

If you acknowledge it people tend to be much less likely to be interested in mocking it as well.

Oh my God. No.

I think I basically answered the first part of this post and can come to some sort of understanding as to how that would work for certain people, however this? Acknowledging the dust on your head? Then what's the point? Just makes people wonder how shitty your hair is actually getting.

This kind of logic ties in to what I was trying to explain in the first place about why it's not for me. If you lose the illusion then I don't really understand the point.