At What Point Do You Actually Wear Toppik?

[JeanLucBB]

Well that we can agree on, and I've improved leaps and bounds in recent years when it comes to caring less about what people think, and not afraid of being infallible.

However I still think realistically this vision you have does not apply to a lot of people, such as myself, and probably a lot of people on this forum actually who easily are sensitive to their insecurities.

You are making sense in theory but in practice you have to be a truly strong minded person to close out the "minor" bullshit and focus on your strong interpersonal bonds with people and the things that really matter.

For me personally, I am getting stronger but that true sense of security seems unobtainable. The old nagging self doubt will rear it's ugly head sooner or later and the longer it takes, the more foolish you feel for pretending not to care.

I think its really about optimising everything you can that is controllable to make the attack points less viable for people to use as strikepoints. If you're have a track record of financial success, life achievements, strong sex life, intellectual and physical prowess and looksmaxing as much as possible it becomes harder for them to attack petty singular things. The more edges you have over them the less valid criticism becomes and most people realise this.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Oh my God. No.

I think I basically answered the first part of this post and can come to some sort of understanding as to how that would work for certain people, however this? Acknowledging the dust on your head? Then what's the point? Just makes people wonder how shitty your hair is actually getting.

This kind of logic ties in to what I was trying to explain in the first place about why it's not for me. If you lose the illusion then I don't really understand the point.

Really just depends if the magic dust looks better or not. I haven't seen toppik in person but if I think that's what it comes down to. Most people will be happy with "It looks better" as a pretty good excuse.

 

[Rudiger]

I think its really about optimising everything you can that is controllable to make the attack points less viable for people to use as strikepoints. If you're have a track record of financial success, life achievements, strong sex life, intellectual and physical prowess and looksmaxing as much as possible it becomes harder for them to attack petty singular things. The more edges you have over them the less valid criticism becomes and most people realise this.

Well this couldn't be more false, I even wrote about it before. People who have their sh*t together and have all bases covered, are way more likely to get the sh*t ripped out of them when they have fault. Bitter people sharpen their claws at the opportunity for a seemingly infallible, secure guy to come in to work with dust on his f*****g head. As soon as something like that happens it's hilarious, you're better off being a socially awkward weirdo who nobody understands or cares about. If anyone even cared to notice then people would shrug like "yeah.. he's a bit off anyway..." Like no surprises there.

Higher social class guy? Handsome, popular, upper level management, dating attractive women, socially in demand, "LOL what's with his hair?! It's dark. Is that paint? How long does a hair transplant take? Lol can't believe he'd care about that. Why's he wasting his time and money over hair"

The rock you were once seen as is now crumbling, the closer you get to all bases being covered, the bigger the downfall when weaknesses are exposed.

Really just depends if the magic dust looks better or not. I haven't seen toppik in person but if I think that's what it comes down to. Most people will be happy with "It looks better" as a pretty good excuse.

Here's basically the other argument people seem to be making - it can be done as long as it's not noticeable. So what's the point then?

I'm being a bit facetious but not really. Making it so subtle that people can't really tell.

Yeah so basically I was wondering how people would get over this initial hump and I don't think any toppik users have actually said. Like I say though it's not for advice, just wondering.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Well this couldn't be more false, I even wrote about it before. People who have their sh*t together and have all bases covered, are way more likely to get the sh*t ripped out of them when they have fault. Bitter people sharpen their claws at the opportunity for a seemingly infallible, secure guy to come in to work with dust on his f*****g head. As soon as something like that happens it's hilarious, you're better off being a socially awkward weirdo who nobody understands or cares about. If anyone even cared to notice then people would shrug like "yeah.. he's a bit off anyway..." Like no surprises there.

Higher social class guy? Handsome, popular, upper level management, dating attractive women, socially in demand, "LOL what's with his hair?! It's dark. Is that paint? How long does a hair transplant take? Lol can't believe he'd care about that. Why's he wasting his time and money over hair"

The rock you were once seen as is now crumbling, the closer you get to all bases being covered, the bigger the downfall when weaknesses are exposed.



Here's basically the other argument people seem to be making - it can be done as long as it's not noticeable. So what's the point then?

I'm being a bit facetious but not really. Making it so subtle that people can't really tell.

Yeah so basically I was wondering how people would get over this initial hump and I don't think any toppik users have actually said. Like I say though it's not for advice, just wondering.

It is interesting how some people's experience with the world can be so different, to be honest your description there is the total opposite of what I see.

In my experience if you have enough sh*t together people have much greater respect for you and are unlikely to ever seriously mock or discredit you, they tend to go for easy targets like Dante who can't retaliate or flaunt traits more impressive than they themselves have.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

It is interesting how some people's experience with the world can be so different, to be honest your description there is the total opposite of what I see.

In my experience if you have enough sh*t together people have much greater respect for you and are unlikely to ever seriously mock or discredit you, they tend to go for easy targets like Dante who can't retaliate or flaunt traits more impressive than they themselves have.

That's definitely the case in my experience as well. People respect genuine intelligence, ability, kindness, etc.

It's also why people try so hard to feign professionalism and authority. Regardless of the fact that it often fails, if it succeeds, then the payoffs are substantial. Greater pay, greater respect from peers, easier time in social interactions.

Conversely, people can be awful when they spot weakness, for whatever reason. It's not so much that they see an opportunity to inflict harm, it's far more insidious than that. People perceive the weak as less valuable, and thus they have an instinctive disregard for them. Less patience for their bullshit, less enthusiasm for their successes.

It's one awful snowball.

 

[Rudiger]

Losers who have their lives in shambles will jump on the occasion to tear you apart to feel better about their miserable existence.

Yeah but I guess this is where I see things differently, I actually think the majority of people don't remotely have their sh*t together. The best of them can keep up a facade for a certain amount of time but you scratch a little and it's a f*****g mess. The worst of which are clearly messes right off the bat, just ask what they did at the weekend and it's already baffling.

I don't know if I'd say they're all "losers" but I dunno really what that means, never been a favored word of mine. But they are messes, and desperate to b**ch about each other and tear the perfect people down.

That is an interesting take on it though, that it makes them more relatable. I don't think overall I'd agree of course, from what I just wrote. Maybe for some very positive minded accepting people they could see it this way.

 

[blackg]

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I have more money than anyone I've worked with at my level, I'm smarter, I f*** better women, why the f*** should I care what those c**** think? If they're laughing then its their problem, not mine because the fact is I'm better than them.

I wouldn't laugh at you for any physical flaw but this attitude is hilarious.

 

[JeanLucBB]

I wouldn't laugh at you for any physical flaw but this attitude is hilarious.

In the case of someone laughing at toppik useage, I think it's more than welcome to conclude you're above them and their opinion isn't worthwhile. In my experience I don't think a huge amount of people would mock you extensively for this to begin within those who did should probably be avoided.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I'm open about my hair loss and I tell people that I have a hair product that makes it a bit thicker.

When baldness comes up in a conversation I openly say that I will get a transplant if I lost my front third and they all receive it properly and I never get any sh*t.

I'm honest with my 'flaws' and tell them it bothers me a little but not that much and they appreciate that.

Never had any sh*t for saying i'd rather be a fullhead.

 

[Rudiger]

Not among other similar higher end type of people that Rudiger mentions. Bad break up? Have to change jobs? Illness? Yeah they'll relate to that for sure and emphasise. Even then, it's still a weakness but I agree, mistakes and problems make us human.

Losing lots of hair, sticking on toppik, you'll lose your overall attractiveness and that will reflect socially at the least.

This guy gets it.

Although I'm not simply talking about higher end people.

 

[UncleMort]

Oh my God. No.

I think I basically answered the first part of this post and can come to some sort of understanding as to how that would work for certain people, however this? Acknowledging the dust on your head? Then what's the point? Just makes people wonder how shitty your hair is actually getting.

This kind of logic ties in to what I was trying to explain in the first place about why it's not for me. If you lose the illusion then I don't really understand the point.

I made my own toppic once.

Got some cheap cosmetic powder from a drug type store and mixed it to color

didnt work

 

[Rudiger]

I think I missed this reply at first (unless I had already liked it? Then I dunno why I didn't acknowledge it)

I'm open about my hair loss and I tell people that I have a hair product that makes it a bit thicker.

When baldness comes up in a conversation I openly say that I will get a transplant if I lost my front third and they all receive it properly and I never get any sh*t.

I'm honest with my 'flaws' and tell them it bothers me a little but not that much and they appreciate that.

Never had any sh*t for saying i'd rather be a fullhead.

But yeah this is pretty much the other end of the spectrum from where I'm at and others went down this road but not quite as blatantly, simply one day you started trying it and didn't care what others thought. Fair enough, that's kinda the answer then.

Again I still maintain I don't want to use it, I can totally understand why people do but it just is not for me (and you can imagine if I would barely consider the illusion of toppik then a hair system is out of the question).

But now I'm at least understanding how other people go into it, they don't worry about how they looked yesterday or if people notice.

And that's pretty much all I was curious about. Might seem simple or obvious to others but to me it's alien.

 

[EvilLocks]

I think the image below is a little over-kill but its better than the before:
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It won't look like that irl lmao. It will look like you emptied a bag of dust on your head if your hair loss is that severe. Toppik or any concealer is for those with mild to moderate hair loss at most.

 

[EvilLocks]

I wonder if concealers could also be a good option once I have a total of 5000 grafts on my NW6.

My density wouldn't be anywhere as bad as those guys (who even have zero terminal hairs on some areas).

What worries me the most with this solution is the return to reality.

I used dermmatch for a couple of months at university, and I felt amazing, like a reborn fullhead.

I could even see how people's (especially girls) reaction towards me were more positive.

But then in the evening came the time to wash it off. That's when reality hits you like a ton of bricks.

If your density looks OK after your second transplant I would probably opt for some temporary SMP instead of concealer. If you have a decent amount of hair (which you will have) that can look great and best thing - you don't have to take it off at the end of the day! Nor worry about your concealer running on your face if it rains.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I wonder if concealers could also be a good option once I have a total of 5000 grafts on my NW6.

My density wouldn't be anywhere as bad as those guys (who even have zero terminal hairs on some areas).

What worries me the most with this solution is the return to reality.

I used dermmatch for a couple of months at university, and I felt amazing, like a reborn fullhead.

I could even see how people's (especially girls) reaction towards me were more positive.

But then in the evening came the time to wash it off. That's when reality hits you like a ton of bricks.

I live with it just fine.

As long a walk around like a normal guy then I'm happy.

 

[blackg]

I live with it just fine.

As long a walk around like a normal guy then I'm happy.

Plus you are handsome.

 

[CharAblaze]

I tried Nanogen a few times, here are my observations:

• Beware of bright light, beware of any kind of light.
• If there is light in the room you are fucked.
• If it's sunny and sun shines on you you are fucked.
• It sucks, you need to grow your hair at certain length.
• It's just like a wig, but less complicated.
• U are lying to yourself.
• Get a f*****g spray applicator from Toppik.
• Don't overdo it.
• It's f*****g shiny, looks like dust when you overdo it.
• Caucasian hair is dark brown, not black.
• I only use it to troll the others.

 

[kj6723]

The one time I tried toppik when my forelock was thinning, I used the light blond one and it turned my scalp NEON GREEN

Needless to say that ended up being a hat day

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I don't understand why some of you have had such bad experiences with it.

A quick little sprinkle just makes the hair look a little fuller.

 

[Rudiger]

I don't understand why some of you have had such bad experiences with it.

A quick little sprinkle just makes the hair look a little fuller.

Because it's a facade. I mentioned I'd only possibly consider it if going to another country for a short time, but even if it fooled people I'd still feel false, even just to myself.

Over the long term it's soul destroying. To be dramatic.

Same could be argued about hair transplants however that's real, it's stuck to your scalp, it's not something you re-apply every morning and fear bad conditions in which it is exposed.