Bald man goes up against a tall Norwood -1

[Afro_Vacancy]

Good smell and sexy voice correlate with good appearance. It's a different way of expressing the same features.

I would bet that on average, good looking blind women have better looking partners than ugly blind women. According to jd_uk there shouod be no correlation there.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Yup, smell and voice are related to looks.

If we care about "looks" more than smell and voice, relative to our ancestors which is unknowable but possible, it's because we live in a visual society. We can process visual information better. Furthermore everybody who needs glasses wears glasses, the same is not true of hearing aids, and there is no such mechanism for the nose.

It's really a horrible counterargument, it's the same phenomenon. It's all surface physical.

 

[throwaway592845]

Read this carefully with your 115 IQ.

Statement: "Physical appearance (looks) are the only factor (all that matter) in gaining sexual attraction from a woman."

Disproof by contradiction:

"Women are more sexually attracted to men with deep voices (Hint: the voice is not visual (looks). Therefore your statement is factually incorrect.)

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/deepvoiced-men-have_n_4109673.html

Wow, you are really quoting the huffington post on what women find attractive? Are you a trolling women after all?

On topic though (Disclaimer: Privileged 23 years old fullhead at nw2 heading for nw1 due to incredible response to finasteride speaking, I do not claim to speak for those who are hit by severe hair loss) I feel that fred is right, although the actual threshold of looking good enough to be truly desired by a women is actually much higher than just being nw0. 99% of men on this earth will never experience what it is like when women are literally fighting over your attention and how your smile can render the fact that you just ****ed their mother/sister irrelevant. I've seen bald (or ugly, for that matter) guys perform well with beautiful girls and I admire their perseverance as they are literally defying their destiny, but it will never have the same sense of ease as my 6ft2, wide-framed 210lbs, Norwood 1 buddy walking up to a beautiful girl, smiling like he did with the other 200+ girls that he had any sort of relationship until now.

And you know what, even if casual sex does not mean anything to you (btw it means a lot to me), my friend will still be happier in his long-term-relationship, because he will never experience rejection or heartbreaks. He is completely oblivious to the fact that his looks are what makes his life so easy, he will never be bothered by the true, hypergamous female nature because to the top percentile of men, girls actually are wonderful and sweet creatures.

Again, I still doubt that it is our hair loss that keeps us from having this life because even at nw0 most of us would not have the looks for this sort of life, but that is another story.

BTW Fred I hope you and your relatives are okay.

 

[shookwun]

Exactly. he isn't ugly, if anything he's average and possibly a notch above.


what could it possibly be.

That clown with the NW1 has bad 'game'. Doesn't compose himself well, and pose as a threat in a social setting. If anything the bald guy is subjectively more interesting.

 

[swingline747]

Read this carefully with your 115 IQ.

Statement: "Physical appearance (looks) are the only factor (all that matter) in gaining sexual attraction from a woman."

Disproof by contradiction:

"Women are more sexually attracted to men with deep voices (Hint: the voice is not visual (looks). Therefore your statement is factually incorrect.)

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/deepvoiced-men-have_n_4109673.html

Disproof by contradiction:

"Human scent plays a role in sexual attraction" (Hint: sexual attraction is non visual ("looks")

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odour_and_sexual_attraction

Face it Fred, you are quite simply wrong. The above is absolute proof. No ifs or buts about it. I suggest any career you choose doesn't involve reasoning, logic or critical thinking.

And let's not forget all the blanket statements you have made about bald men only to be given many counter examples. Just feeble excuses every time.

Further to all this, I would absolutely love to hear you try and tell evolutionary biologists and body language experts that humans don't respond to each others behaviour, verbal cues and body language, either sexually or otherwise.

It's incredible how someone can be so wrong yet can cling on so dearly to a belief which they have held for years. And i think i am starting to understand why. For years, maybe on an almost daily basis, you have rereated the same erroneous statements to people on a forum who share the same views as you and from that you have got more and more validation. So much validation that you're blind to anything else.

While I appreciate the "Study" it only shows women prefer a man with a deep voice over a high voice. This has nothing to do with hair. The second just shows how scent plays a "factor", thought its "not understood". Id wager BO plays a bigger factor than most of the stuff talked about in that second "study"
There are tons of factors to attract a woman. Lots of criteria they will go by. A few select batch will have all, most of us dont.
Take 2 deep voiced men one with hair and one without and the women will go to her next mental checklist criteria. The bald guy takes a whack.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/5065461/Women-prefer-men-with-a-full-head-of-hair.html
There have been tons of studies like this.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/bald-men-more-masculine-less-attractive/

Again most people have to realize you are really competing with yourself WITH HAIR. You have to compare similar people.

 

[jd_uk]

While I appreciate the "Study" it only shows women prefer a man with a deep voice over a high voice. This has nothing to do with hair. The second just shows how scent plays a "factor", thought its "not understood". Id wager BO plays a bigger factor than most of the stuff talked about in that second "study"
There are tons of factors to attract a woman. Lots of criteria they will go by. A few select batch will have all, most of us dont.
Take 2 deep voiced men one with hair and one without and the women will go to her next mental checklist criteria. The bald guy takes a whack.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/5065461/Women-prefer-men-with-a-full-head-of-hair.html
There have been tons of studies like this.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/bald-men-more-masculine-less-attractive/

Again most people have to realize you are really competing with yourself WITH HAIR. You have to compare similar people.

You've missed the point. I disproved 'Fred's' statement which he repeats like a parrot. His statement is a blanket one and quite clearly wrong.

The studies on scent relate to genetics and state that generally we are attracted to someone who's scent is gentetically quite different to ours. They speculate that this is because reproduction with someone of a different genetic background can lead to an improved immune system in offspring. Nothing to do with BO. There are quite clearly many factors influencing sexual attraction in the real world aside from looks. Scientists know and have studied sexual attraction for years. Only an idiot would think otherwise. There are whole documentaries about body language and how women respond to men with more masculine behaviour displays. Hair is just a factor in a much bigger equation. Added to all of this, there are actually women in the world who 'have a thing' for bald men. To try and summarise all of sexual attraction in one line like Fred does is only a display of low intelligence.

I mean think about it for a second...just one second. There are how many thousands of different sexual fetishes in the world, things which people respond to...and most people on here want to pin sexual attraction on something as simple as having hair or not having it. I like girls who have smaller t*ts and petie figures, my mate prefers curvy girls. The most sexually attracted i've ever been to a woman was someone who was super intelligent and a really fun, positive person. She was beautiful but not my 'usual type', and yet someone here would try telling me that I as a man i am only sexually attracted to a certain type of woman on an objective scale of appearance (and nothing but appearance). Such b*ll****. Fortunately i actually have a brain and can think for myself.