Yeah we will see. Jacob no offense taken. I appreciate you calling it like you see it. I do not mind trying different stuff I am not worried about the money. So far I am a week in. 15 more weeks to go. Yall will get my honest opinion. I am on nothing right now besides this and nizoral 3 times a week. If this don't help I am starting proscar. I will let everyone know if this is trash or not. I heard it was mentioned at the hair loss conference also. The thing that really looks interesting to me is the topical finasteride that the Swedes came up with, but who knows when that will be on the market. I have been emailing the company, but no reply.