China, Where The Single's Man Plight Is A Sheer Matter Of Numbers

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I've been in South-East Asia a few times and yes, if you're an above average white male there, you can get a different attractive woman in your bed every single day if you want.

By the way, where is the "stop playing the victim Chinese men! Lol at blaming demography as the reason you're incel!" in this thread?

Sometimes you just really are a victim of the system. In my city, white men have it increasingly harder to find a mate because most of the girls are Arabs and will never associate with them.

"Just approach girls in real life!" Yeah just approach that hot-blooded Moroccan girl on the bus, see how long you last before her Muslims brothers swarm to you.

Approaching women in real life is for people who don't have much success online. If you are already meeting plenty of women online, why would you go through the hassle of trying to meet women in real life? Unfortunately, online dating has been abysmal failure for me hence I rely on real life encounters.
 

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Which confirms my observations: if you're not doing well online, why would you be doing better in real life? Why?

A few reasons.

There are many girls here who will only use Tinder to boost their ego or whatever. I've talked to a lot of girls who say they've never gone on a tinder date. Some girls who don't even use Tinder. These girls might be slightly easier seen as they don't have 100s of guys just waiting to meet her.

Alcohol makes things easier.

Photo's don't always give the best impression of somebody.

Finally, some of my friends who haven't had much look with girls on Tinder or even in pubs/clubs have had luck hooking up with friends and friends of friends. Some of them are even dating now. One guy was virgin till 22, although he's not incel just average all round. He hooked up with one of our friends, a skinny 6, and they have been going out for a year now.

Although I agree if you're not getting any luck at all online you'll probably not do much better in real life. But it's worth a try.
 

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Which confirms my observations: if you're not doing well online, why would you be doing better in real life? Why?

It's because, in my experience, girls are considerably more receptive to men that they meet in real life. By "real life" I don't mean meet up groups. I mean the women you meet at school/friends of friends/work. I am not sure how many such girls have you met but when you do, you will see what I am talking about. Since you have been quite successful onTinder, I am confident in real life your success will be staggeringly high, given that you are at a place where you regularly meet women.

Three years ago a women I worked with asked me out for a drink. She was a legitimate 9. Stunningly beautiful. Getting hit by chads all the time, including football players. She was on Tinder where guys were constantly texting her. Why did she choose me? I am not sure. I was past my physical prime. I never hit on her. She had only dated white guys so may be she found me exotic. It's really a mystery to me. What I do know for fact is that on Tinder, I don't even get matched with women even half as good looking as her. This and some other experiences have led me to believe that attracting women you meet in real life is easier.
 

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How long ago was that? My friend moved to china last year and has been slaying pussy left and right. He is having to turn women down because he can only have so much sex, a situation he never thought was possible.

Oh but I did not hook up with any girl: I was there for work and my colleagues did not want to go to places.
I was talking about the general attitude in the streets: women go out in very close-knit circle of friends, they laugh a lot and seem to have this "you go girl" attitude. They looked very "Western". Maybe online and in clubs it's different ;)
 

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You just need to spot these girls quickly. How? Easy, ask them to meet, if their answer is anything but "Sure :)", you're wasting your time.

Yes it took me a while to learn this. I used to think I should try and make the girl comfortable with me before asking her to meet. So much wasted time.

Now I just ask them to meet after a few messages. They either ghost, say they want to know me more (I'll offer to ring her that evening or something), or say yes.

I always ring them if they say yes as well, decreases the chances of her ghosting on the date.

If they don't give their number, 90% chance you're wasting your time. Some timid girls might actually still be into you but it's not worth the time/effort in my opinion. Tinder girls are so flakey.

I've done much better on tinder than offline but I just get tired of Tinder. Although I'm going to South America for 6 months, going to get it up and running over their for sure.
 

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these meet ups are CRINGE as f***...

full of sjw, incels, fat/old women and faggots
 

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This is nothing new, there's been a massive gender imbalance in China for a while. Luckily their neighbors in Japan are full of social inept dudes who would rather marry a love pillow than date a real girl so there's some women available there as long as you can pull off a cool j pop hair style.
Most Chinese peopl are poor though, maddiv wealth inequality and their hundreds of millions of poor rural men are fucked. Best hope is sharing polygamous wives, discovering homosexuality or lots of prostitutes.
 

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Familiarity makes her feel secure about you.

Some girls will be scared of meeting the hot guys she sees on Tinder because they know nothing about them.

@SmoothSailing about girls attention-whoring on dating apps, yes it's a problem but it always has been for as long as I can remember.

You just need to spot these girls quickly. How? Easy, ask them to meet, if their answer is anything but "Sure :)", you're wasting your time.

That problem doesn't change the fact that there will be some girls who will be into you and who will want to meet you (if you meet their looks threshold).

@Roberto_72 This ovulation theory (or is it actually proven?) that you've mentioned a few times is f*****g with my brain.

Is there reliable research on this? Is it true that if a woman meets you when she's not ovulating, she'll find you meh and you'll never be able to recuperate from this? Could you give me some references?

Try reading a book by this author, Daniel Bergner
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@Roberto_72 can you give us a quick rundown of the book? Or it is the key insight the ovulation theory?

There are for sure cases of the right person but bad timing.

In any case however you are better off looking for someone else once it's not instantly working. Even in the rare case that she is into you but the timing was off; f*****g around or having relationships in the meantime will make your game and life so much better.
 

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No, but I find the women there temperamentally very compatible to me. I have been on dates with few East European women and I find them very feminine. A Ukranian women on a date told me that she wants her man to act like a man and provide for her while she cooks, cleans and takes care of kids. She was career oriented as well and was going to nursing school. I really want a women like that. American women are generally far too independent for my taste. I have dated them in the past and unless they were from conservative background, found very hard to put up with them. All this is my personal experience of course and shouldn't be taken as some objective truth. But my experiences are the only metric I have hence my preference for East European women.
Stay away from my women muzzy. :D


They are very feminine, and traditional.

tend to be educated, and classy also. They dont have that trashy look you see a lot of women have nowadays with lululemons and random string tops.

They like to wear jewelry, wear designer clothes and maintain a good figure.
 
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@Roberto_72 can you give us a quick rundown of the book? Or it is the key insight the ovulation theory?

There are for sure cases of the right person but bad timing.

In any case however you are better off looking for someone else once it's not instantly working. Even in the rare case that she is into you but the timing was off; f*****g around or having relationships in the meantime will make your game and life so much better.
It basically says that men have never understood the biology of women and historically attributed them a role that they cannot support.

Women do not cherish monogamy more than men. Put simply, it is society that "condemned" them to be the pillar of monogamy with the false pretense that they do not "like sex as much as men".

However, it is not necessary to be Madame Bovary or Anna Karenina for a woman to desire a man that is not their husband.

The "ovulation" thing is just a small chapter that stands to show how biology can clash with societal pressure in determining a person's behavior.
 

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Stay away from my women muzzy. :D


They are very feminine, and traditional.

tend to be educated, and classy also. They dont have that trashy look you see a lot of women have nowadays with lululemons and random string tops.

They like to wear jewelry, wear designer clothes and maintain a good figure.

In other words, ever mans dream women. I also find them substantially prettier than North American women..
 

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In other words, ever mans dream women. I also find them substantially prettier than North American women..
because they are.

They have elite genetics. So beautiful.

I like Czech women also



Even in poor rural areas of Ukraine the women all have model facial structure. (high prominent cheek bones, chiseled jaw, and feminine chin)

and on average the women are tall.
 

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because they are.

They have elite genetics. So beautiful.

I like Czech women also



Even in poor rural areas of Ukraine the women all have model facial structure. (high prominent cheek bones, chiseled jaw, and feminine chin)

and on average the women are tall.

They are ALL here. Everywhere.

Want polish go to Greenpoint
want Russian or Ukraine go to Conney Island Little Odessa.

Name a country i can tell you where the imports live in quantity. Chinese Flushing, Greek, Astoria.

We are flooded with Easter European women here.

I get what you are saying with the looks.

I don't get what you guys say about personality.

At least not from ones i have met.
 

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They are ALL here. Everywhere.

Want polish go to Greenpoint
want Russian or Ukraine go to Conney Island Little Odessa.

Name a country i can tell you where the imports live in quantity. Chinese Flushing, Greek, Astoria.

We are flooded with Easter European women here.

I get what you are saying with the looks.

I don't get what you guys say about personality.

At least not from ones i have met.
hows your love life going?

having fun,testing the waters, and shortlisting potential candidates?
 

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hows your love life going?

having fun,testing the waters, and shortlisting potential candidates?

I'm not back out there yet.
I'm slowly coming out of my depressed coma as my hair fills in.
Im definitely in a much better head form what already grew in.
 

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I'm not back out there yet.
I'm slowly coming out of my depressed coma as my hair fills in.
Im definitely in a much better head form what already grew in.
maybe a girls night out at a local lounge/bar would help :D

I am sure New York has those mature 30+ lounges/club/ and bars?


I know in Toronto they have those 25-30+ clubs and they are packed
 

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maybe a girls night out at a local lounge/bar would help :D

I am sure New York has those mature 30+ lounges/club/ and bars?


I know in Toronto they have those 25-30+ clubs and they are packed


The club scene-- i dont enjoy that anymore but most of our lounges, bars and cafes are mixed age groups. Some neighborhoods are more young than others but most are mixed age groups.

Im just not 100% in head yet to date.

I'm almost there.
 
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