Dat Androgenetic Alopecia Life. They Don't Think It Be Like It Is But It Do.

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Not all balding people are destined to be norwood 7,
Everyone has fixed genetic signal on
1)when the hair fall will start.
2)What will be the rate of hairfall.
3)What will be the final balding stage. Some will bald upto norwood 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7.

If anyone has a genetic makeup to be norwood 7,i am 100% sure he will reach that stage,little bit later.

Some people here believes in Finasteride like this is magic drug critical to avoid baldness.
Then why people still on hairloss forum,take that drug and forget hair loss and hairlosstalk.
 

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Some people here believes in Finasteride like this is magic drug critical to avoid baldness

it's basically all there is and it works to varying extents for 80-90% of people

it is a magic drug for most people
 

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it's basically all there is and it works to varying extents for 80-90% of people

it is a magic drug for most people

Are you destined to be norwood 7,say honestly.
I know many who have stopped balding in 4/5/6 stages without taking any treatments.

If some one who is taking Finasteride has a genetic signal for to reach only norwood 3.
Will you say that it was the success of that drug?
 

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After five years of treatment with propecia, 48% of men had increased hair growth, 42% experienced no change and a small 10% experienced hair loss. This is quite a success when you compare it to the 75% of men not taking the drug who experience hair loss.

That 10% I think are hit so hard it's devastating. To say 'experienced hair loss' is so mild in description from what seems to happen.
 

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After five years of treatment with propecia, 48% of men had increased hair growth, 42% experienced no change and a small 10% experienced hair loss. This is quite a success when you compare it to the 75% of men not taking the drug who experience hair loss.

That 10% I think are hit so hard it's devastating. To say 'experienced hair loss' is so mild in description from what seems to happen.
lol, c'mon man...

the numbers are there for all to see in meta studies, not just the Merck ones. all conclude anywhere between 70-95% cessation or significant slowing of hairloss with minimal side effects.

obviously if you're in the 2/5/10/whatever% that gets fucked over by it then its game over, RIP
 

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the numbers are there for all to see in meta studies, not just the Merck ones. all conclude anywhere between 70-95% cessation or significant slowing of hairloss with minimal side effects.

obviously if you're in the 2/5/10/whatever% that gets fucked over by it then its game over, RIP

If I could take it I would.
 

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i don't mind the low libido and ED , but as a sportive guy , who has ever been fit ( even mocked fat people when i was young, in the locker romm at school, i know this is stupid ) , the gyno is really horrible .
 

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why can't you?

From what little i know it's not effective in most women, at least not those I have spoken to who do take it... I never had a chat with a woman who took finasteride or dutasteride who had positive effects. I am not sure if it even works in women from those conversations.
Also Doctors in USA won't prescribe it if you have period still..I'm old but still fertile-myrtle clockwork.

I took oral spironolactone for two weeks but it had a bad side effect with me (probably TMI for men section lol)...
I might do spironolactone in future but I have to take it with a higher-risk birth control pill.

Right now I am doing really well with minoxidil (knock on wood) I have a significant amount of regrowth.
 

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This is true. I know many men whose balding stopped at around Norwood 4 - 5.

That's really comforting. I think I'll just drop all treatments now, confident in the fact that my baldness will stop once I hit NW5! /s

IMO, anything worse than NW2 is awful, and that's assuming no diffusion, just receding. When you're diffusing even NW1.5 can look totally awful and un-styleable which is really the whole point.
 

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i don't mind the low libido and ED , but as a sportive guy , who has ever been fit ( even mocked fat people when i was young, in the locker romm at school, i know this is stupid ) , the gyno is really horrible .

I am currently trying raloxifene topically. I'll let you know if it works for me.
 

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From what little i know it's not effective in most women, at least not those I have spoken to who do take it... I never had a chat with a woman who took finasteride or dutasteride who had positive effects. I am not sure if it even works in women from those conversations.
Also Doctors in USA won't prescribe it if you have period still..I'm old but still fertile-myrtle clockwork.

I took oral spironolactone for two weeks but it had a bad side effect with me (probably TMI for men section lol)...
I might do spironolactone in future but I have to take it with a higher-risk birth control pill.

Right now I am doing really well with minoxidil (knock on wood) I have a significant amount of regrowth.

it's certainly less effective in women as there's more than just DHT at play in FPHL from what little I know, but it's also safer, since you don't have a dick (no offense if you do) and you've already got tits. i know @parisienne , god rest her soul, was taking Dutasteride
 

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That's really comforting. I think I'll just drop all treatments now, confident in the fact that my baldness will stop once I hit NW5! /s

Yes, it actually is comforting to many that not everyone who is balding is destined to be NW7. If someones balding stops at NW4, then he can have aggressive hair transplant and use Toppik to have at least presentable hair. That beats slick bald NW6 -7 in my opinion. People like @WhitePolarBear have benefited a lot from transplant even at NW5 stage.
 

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I am currently trying raloxifene topically. I'll let you know if it works for me.

on your tits and not your scalp i hope
 

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Yes, it actually is comforting to many that not everyone who is balding is destined to be NW7. If someones balding stops at NW4, then he can have aggressive hair transplant and use Toppik to have at least presentable hair. That beats slick bald NW6 -7 in my opinion. People like @WhitePolarBear have benefited a lot from transplant even at NW5 stage.

Yeah but like I said when you have diffuse spotty hair loss all over then the Norwood scale doesn't really mean a whole lot for you. You can still have hair all the way up to your hairline and so technically NW1 but if it's so sparse and rare that it looks like straw then it still looks awful grown out and you have to shave even though you're technically a NW1.

I have a combination of diffusing and receding so I am pretty fucked in that regard. My hairline is holding at a NW2 but have thinning all over my head.

on your tits and not your scalp i hope

It's the million dollar question, what's your final answer?

Huh, now you actually got me thinking, since it acts estrogenic on bone and anti-estrogenic on breasts... I wonder what is the action of raloxifene on the estrogen receptors in the hair follicle.

Either way, I'm not gonna be finding out.
 

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Yeah but like I said when you have diffuse spotty hair loss all over then the Norwood scale doesn't really mean a whole lot for you. You can still have hair all the way up to your hairline and so technically NW1 but if it's so sparse and rare that it looks like straw then it still looks awful grown out and you have to shave even though you're technically a NW1.

I have a combination of diffusing and receding so I am pretty fucked in that regard. My hairline is holding at a NW2 but have thinning all over my head.

Diffusion sucks. Even transplants aren't very effective in that situation
 
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