Do you think most women cheat? or is this cope?

[DyingOfTheLight]

In my experience both men and women cheat in equal measure, but for different reasons. The redpill broscience truism states that if a men cheats the relationship may be salvageable, since men are animals driven by sexual impulse, but if a women cheats it means you are lacking in some core trait that she desires to the point of looking for it in other men, be it lookswise or something else. It's an oversimplification of course, but I think it contains a nugget of truth.

I think the biggest problem is that, with the waning of traditional, patriarchal power structures in society, women have a vastly different method of sexual differentiation and selection than before, while many men still live in self-delusion, thinking that they're just a next promotion (or new fancy ride/expensive cologne) away from being the casanova they assume they can be. And while those things do matter in the grand scheme of things, they pale in comparison to genuine, instant sexual attraction, which simply cannot be replicated.

Women now select men how men have selected women. And all those myths in the vein of "men are the visual gender" are shown to be worthless, fanciful copes that men told themselves throughout history while patrachy allowed them to trade wealth and status for sex and affection.

Now you have to be handsome and interesting. That's it. If you are both you can get away with pretty much anyhing. Being goodlooking in itself is enough, but be both and you can play with women the way they play with the average man. If you have neither, but by chance luck into a relationship, you will be cheated on sooner or later

 

[Feelsbadman]

In my experience both men and women cheat in equal measure, but for different reasons. The redpill broscience truism states that if a men cheats the relationship may be salvageable, since men are animals driven by sexual impulse, but if a women cheats it means you are lacking in some core trait that she desires to the point of looking for it in other men, be it lookswise or something else. It's an oversimplification of course, but I think it contains a nugget of truth.

I think the biggest problem is that, with the waning of traditional, patriarchal power structures in society, women have a vastly different method of sexual differentiation and selection than before, while many men still live in self-delusion, thinking that they're just a next promotion (or new fancy ride/expensive cologne) away from being the casanova they assume they can be. And while those things do matter in the grand scheme of things, they pale in comparison to genuine, instant sexual attraction, which simply cannot be replicated.

Women now select men how men have selected women. And all those myths in the vein of "men are the visual gender" are shown to be worthless, fanciful copes that men told themselves throughout history while patrachy allowed them to trade wealth and status for sex and affection.

Now you have to be handsome and interesting. That's it. If you are both you can get away with pretty much anyhing. Being goodlooking in itself is enough, but be both and you can play with women the way they play with the average man. If you have neither, but by chance luck into a relationship, you will be cheated on sooner or later

good post and agree
However I do know chads that have even been cheated on some girls are a bit messed up but yea if you're very good looking and interesting you hold the power

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

good post and agree
However I do know chads that have even been cheated on some girls are a bit messed up but yea if you're very good looking and interesting you hold the power

True. People underestimate the true power of beauty I think. But blackpillers also underestimate the power of charisma/charm/etc. While the first is more important, the latter can be the difference between a simp and a slayer, no matter how good you look.

One of my best friends is ridiculously attractive. As in, people gawking at him on the street attractive. But he's also a "loser", judged by society's standards. Dropped out of high school to pursue painting, never held a steady job, etc. The typical artistic bohemian type. But he gets away with everything. He isn't even judged really, while other people would be seen as hobo's and failures in his position, while he has a wealthy and cute gf who supports him and pays for everyhing. While I was slaving away in uni studying STEM he was just breezing throug life experiencing everything it has to offer.

Beauty is by far the biggest privilege. More than intelligence/talent or wealth, which are second and third, in no particular order. Most just don't want to come to terms with it because that would be admitting that a vast dimension of life ( sensation and experience) is closed off to them

 

[Diffused_confidence]

His baldness made him weak and delusional into thinking she would split the money and they’d live happily ever after..she absolutely despised the cretin

Honestly, I don't feel sorry for him. A real man would do the logical thing and steal every time.

If you have 100k and you steal there is a 50% chance they hit steal and 50% chance they say split. So expected payout is 50k. If you select split you get 50k from a split and nothing if they steal so expected payout is 25k. You steal every time. The woman probably could do math and he couldn't.

There really are only 2 options and both involve stealing.

1. You steal and don't tell them. If I didn't give a sh*t about the person and thought they were dumb then I'd sneak the steal and if we both get steal then we both look shitty. If I steal then I get all the money.

However... this strategy is better.

2. Tell them upfront that you are stealing and after the show you will pay them 10%. The ball is now in their court to get 10% or nothing and you get 90% or nothing. If they say steal too then at least you didn't get fucked over but if they do split then at least you were upfront about it.

 

[Feelsbadman]

True. People underestimate the true power of beauty I think. But blackpillers also underestimate the power of charisma/charm/etc. While the first is more important, the latter can be the difference between a simp and a slayer, no matter how good you look.

One of my best friends is ridiculously attractive. As in, people gawking at him on the street attractive. But he's also a "loser", judged by society's standards. Dropped out of high school to pursue painting, never held a steady job, etc. The typical artistic bohemian type. But he gets away with everything. He isn't even judged really, while other people would be seen as hobo's and failures in his position, while he has a wealthy and cute gf who supports him and pays for everyhing. While I was slaving away in uni studying STEM he was just breezing throug life experiencing everything it has to offer.

Beauty is by far the biggest privilege. More than intelligence/talent or wealth, which are second and third, in no particular order. Most just don't want to come to terms with it because that would be admitting that a vast dimension of life ( sensation and experience) is closed off to them

100% Agree and my experience as well and from I witnessed.

Are you black pill or red pill? or both? it's hard to to tell lol.

I used to very red pill but it seems jut such a circle jerk of men hyper fixated on trying to improve their SMV, A never ending cycle of trying to improve their bench, get a promotion and so on, spinning plates (women). I used to live this lifestyle but realised it's fairly toxic in a way, you pretty much live your life obsessed with this red pill philosophy.

I've actually become a lot more black pill and it sets me free a bit. Just focus on doing things that make me happy.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

100% Agree and my experience as well and from I witnessed.

Are you black pill or red pill? or both? it's hard to to tell lol.

I used to very red pill but it seems jut such a circle jerk of men hyper fixated on trying to improve their SMV, A never ending cycle of trying to improve their bench, get a promotion and so on, spinning plates (women). I used to live this lifestyle but realised it's fairly toxic in a way, you pretty much live your life obsessed with this red pill philosophy.

I've actually become a lot more black pill and it sets me free a bit. Just focus on doing things that make me happy.

Redpill is a cope. Blackpill is reality.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Redpill is a cope. Blackpill is reality.

agree
But at least red pill can improve your life (e.g. fitnessmaxing, moneymaxxing , careermaxxing etc) even if it doesn't result in women.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

agree
But at least red pill can improve your life (e.g. fitnessmaxing, moneymaxxing , careermaxxing etc) even if it doesn't result in women.

Believing in the blackpill doesn't mean never improving yourself. It is accepting reality and moving on. The best you get is escorts

 

[Feelsbadman]

Believing in the blackpill doesn't mean never improving yourself. It is accepting reality and moving on. The best you get is escorts

yea good point, sometimes watching black pill videos and understanding it literally just makes you want to lay down and give up
but now i realised i think the key is

- improve yourself (for yourself)
- make money/career max or try to (feels good accomplishing things)
- just escort max when you want sex
- do hobbies that make you happy

 

[Timii]

True. People underestimate the true power of beauty I think. But blackpillers also underestimate the power of charisma/charm/etc. While the first is more important, the latter can be the difference between a simp and a slayer, no matter how good you look.

One of my best friends is ridiculously attractive. As in, people gawking at him on the street attractive. But he's also a "loser", judged by society's standards. Dropped out of high school to pursue painting, never held a steady job, etc. The typical artistic bohemian type. But he gets away with everything. He isn't even judged really, while other people would be seen as hobo's and failures in his position, while he has a wealthy and cute gf who supports him and pays for everyhing. While I was slaving away in uni studying STEM he was just breezing throug life experiencing everything it has to offer.

Beauty is by far the biggest privilege. More than intelligence/talent or wealth, which are second and third, in no particular order. Most just don't want to come to terms with it because that would be admitting that a vast dimension of life ( sensation and experience) is closed off to them

Humbling life lesson, I agree. I think this is a big underlying truth of reality... beauty, talent and wealth, with beauty being the most important. The human condition literally revolves around these three factors. It has always been like that since the dawn of time, mediocre people envying those who were given the gift of one or a combination of those three. The incel envying the Chad that gets to experience lustful genuine love, the mediocre and the talented (for example the movie "Amadeus" is about this, componist Salieri who is consumed by envy to the genius of Mozart), the hard working bricklayer who earns peanuts while some rich CEO is chilling out at his resort. It's a brutal world indeed.

 

[Hangin'on Hair]

I don;t mean to be cynical but i mean with social media, and dating apps and the fact most women are pretty ruined with a huge partner count by their mid 20's. I think most women cheat , most women live off attention and with social media its like drugs.

Social media??,women?? I think you mean girls.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

100% Agree and my experience as well and from I witnessed.

Are you black pill or red pill? or both? it's hard to to tell lol.

I used to very red pill but it seems jut such a circle jerk of men hyper fixated on trying to improve their SMV, A never ending cycle of trying to improve their bench, get a promotion and so on, spinning plates (women). I used to live this lifestyle but realised it's fairly toxic in a way, you pretty much live your life obsessed with this red pill philosophy.

I've actually become a lot more black pill and it sets me free a bit. Just focus on doing things that make me happy.

Tbh I've always seen the wole redpill ideology as pathetic, even if I was a little drawn to it as well when I was younger. But in essence you're trying every dirty trick in the book only to try and replicate what should come naturally. Which doesn't mean I'm against self-improvement obviously, but only for your own sake, not to try and project an ideal lifestyle that you get no real satisfaction from. Sure you could pull some girls this way, but maintaning that whole charade is so exhausting and the even when you succeed it feels a bit dull. Redpillers alway seemed to me like men who started lifting late, had a lonely if not slightly embarrassing puberty and never experienced teenage love, so they desperately try to make up for that lost opportunity by living the lifestyle they wish they could've lived before, but by that point it's already too late

Humbling life lesson, I agree. I think this is a big underlying truth of reality... beauty, talent and wealth, with beauty being the most important. The human condition literally revolves around these three factors. It has always been like that since the dawn of time, mediocre people envying those who were given the gift of one or a combination of those three. The incel envying the Chad that gets to experience lustful genuine love, the mediocre and the talented (for example the movie "Amadeus" is about this, componist Salieri who is consumed by envy to the genius of Mozart), the hard working bricklayer who earns peanuts while some rich CEO is chilling out at his resort. It's a brutal world indeed.

True, that's the most ironic thing. For all the praise and importance put on effort, people only really admire that which is meted out at birth. Sure it takes time and effort to polish talent or conserve beauty, but let's be honest, people don't admire that aspect of it, even if they claim so

 

[Wolf Pack]

The dark truth is sexual chemistry is everything to start a relationship and attraction is the foundation. Since women NEVER find bald attractive (name a bald guy in any romantic movie or novel), they will never have that spark. It's why this curse needs a cure so badly. Especially when you look at the dating market today and the unreasonable standards women have. There are 2 major things that will ruin attraction that are genetic. Being short and being bald. Ironically there is a cure for shortness for some called limb lengthening surgery. Expensive and very painful but the guys who do it definitely don't regret it. Just 2 inches of height can open the dating pool tenfold. Baldness? Nothing you can do once it's too far gone. And I guarantee you that guys who hit norwood 3 by 21 are eliminated from the dating pool for women. And women complain all the time how they hate how many guys are short or bald. Like 30% of men get tossed in the trash for things they can't control.

Well, I'm with you about baldness being mostly incurable in advanced cases. I've written before about this but a plastic surgeon told me directly that doing boobs, noses, height, jaws, eye area, belly - he can pretty much do whatever he wants and make a big difference - not that he can sculpt someone into being good looking but he can eliminate the issue that is bothering the patient. So he can make a dream nose, certain breast size, add even 5 inches in height if proportions allow but that baldness past Norwood 3 was very difficult and least bang for buck. It's purely due to limited donor, we have 60-70k hairs on top, average donor gives you about 15k on top. I've got no sympathy for people who let themselves become bald and then moan, barring exceptions like legit finasteride sides, being too young to try it or didn't respond to it etc. If someone is too chicken $hit to try even an approved drug with decades of research, then they shouldn't complain. Bit like anti vaxxers who suddenly drop dead lol and hog the headlines and their embarrassing quotes about covid are printed.

 

[Butterbean Head]

Women will cheat with a masculine man if their "man" is not moisturising they're tarantula face.

Whilst neither proud nor ashamed I have straddled a few specimens who are/were in relationships.......and I am a big hairy scary bald monster.

 

[Oknow]

I get that attention sometime. Girls play with their hair around me and are obviously interested..

I got approached on Friday in the bar by a woman who owns a cafe and recognised my face

LOOL

Makes a change from your usual incel posts

 

[Oknow]

Women will cheat with a masculine man if their "man" is not moisturising they're tarantula face.

Whilst neither proud nor ashamed I have straddled a few specimens who are/were in relationships.......and I am a big hairy scary bald monster.

how did you meet them

 

[Butterbean Head]

how did you meet them

One in a nightclub, engaged. Took her number and met her the next day and gave her my large one bareback in my bedsit.

One in a shop i frequented. Knew she was in a relationship but she used to talk sexually so I drove up to the flats where she lived(unbeknown to her). Didn't know the number so I waited, she pulled up got out with a smirk and invited me in where I gave her my large bareback one in her bedsit.

One on a round when I was working as a postman. Thought she knew me from a bikers pub and used to flirt with me. A horny housewife who married some flaccid old f***. Parked up one day(unbeknown to her) and waited for "hubby" to go out to the local working men's club. Knocked on the door, she answered and grabbed me by the shirt collar. Her friend stayed watch whilst I straddled her in the kid's bedroom. Waliing downstairs she enquired to my name again! At the door she did my top button up and stated she felt used and bring some flowers next time. Never did buy those tulips.........

A few others at parties, under neon-light, friends of friends etc

One must remember women can't be alone and they ALL have a few men waiting in the wings even if they define themselves as single.

 

[Butterbean Head]

Many hookers have been straddled whilst in relationships also. A few genuine housewives and others of lesser but similar ilk.

 

[Oknow]

One in a nightclub, engaged. Took her number and met her the next day and gave her my large one bareback in my bedsit.

One in a shop i frequented. Knew she was in a relationship but she used to talk sexually so I drove up to the flats where she lived(unbeknown to her). Didn't know the number so I waited, she pulled up got out with a smirk and invited me in where I gave her my large bareback one in her bedsit.

One on a round when I was working as a postman. Thought she knew me from a bikers pub and used to flirt with me. A horny housewife who married some flaccid old f***. Parked up one day(unbeknown to her) and waited for "hubby" to go out to the local working men's club. Knocked on the door, she answered and grabbed me by the shirt collar. Her friend stayed watch whilst I straddled her in the kid's bedroom. Waliing downstairs she enquired to my name again! At the door she did my top button up and stated she felt used and bring some flowers next time. Never did buy those tulips.........

A few others at parties, under neon-light, friends of friends etc

One must remember women can't be alone and they ALL have a few men waiting in the wings even if they define themselves as single.

These women all sound pretty trashy to be honest

Ever cheated with a woman who is high flying in her career and well educated

 

[Oknow]

Many hookers have been straddled whilst in relationships also. A few genuine housewives and others of lesser but similar ilk.

Not sure why anyone would want to get into a relationship with a hooker, it’s just asking for trouble