doubleindemnity problem is not actually his physical appearance

[Caillou]

if you feel humiliated, that is your own problem

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[vondoom]

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only manlets feel humiliated when they are called manlets...
well maybe you find whatever you looking for one day... dont have to keep up the tough guy online forever...

 

[Caillou]

only manlets feel humiliated when they are called manlets...
well maybe you find whatever you looking for one day... dont have to keep up the tough guy online forever...

Why are you retarded? I never said that rejection by itself is humiliating unless you literally can't read. I said that getting politely rejected is fine unless you're entitled

However, some sociopathic egotistical b****s can be vile and nasty and they try to actively humiliate many guys for "not knowing their place". If you're okay with such behavior and cope by acting like you're some stoic cuckold who doesn't get offended even when treated like sh*t, then you have no self-respect and you're nothing but a massive pussy

 

[vondoom]

Why are you retarded? I never said that rejection by itself is humiliating unless you literally can't read. I said that getting politely rejected is fine unless you're entitled

However, some sociopathic egotistical b****s can be vile and nasty and they try to actively humiliate many guys for "not knowing their place". If you're okay with such behavior and cope by acting like you're some stoic cuckold who doesn't get offended even when treated like sh*t, then you have no self-respect and you're nothing but a massive pussy

why is it that you get triggered so much by everything? really cant see you getting rejected by anyone...

mate, some people dont understand politeness and need to hear some harsher words... im fine with that...
if someone tries to humiliate somebody else, they usually only humiliate themselves, unless they hit a nerve...

cant remember being treated like sh*t... must be because it is not necessary...

do you beat them all up then?

 

[Caillou]

mate, some people dont understand politeness and need to hear some harsher words... im fine with that...

I see, but those are usually some autists who have no social cues whatsoever. It's fine being a bit more direct with them

There's also the clingy type who can't take no for an answer, and those kind of people deserve to get humiliated

 

[vondoom]

I see, but those are usually some autists who have no social cues whatsoever. It's fine being a bit more direct with them

There's also the clingy type who can't take no for an answer, and those kind of people deserve to get humiliated

a nice f*** off usually does the trick...

 

[Hairful]

Very important point. People skip over this thinking they can retroactively fill a hole in their formative development but it's a fool's errant. The emptiness left by an awkward and lonely youth is nearly impossible to recover from, it leaves a gaping wound that festers throughout the years and poisons you with bitterness. ( I love that Houellebecq quote: You will always be an orphan to the love you never knew. Beautiful)

You have no useful interpersonal skills and no-one left to excersise them with. Everyone exepcts you to fluently speak the language of social cues, small talk and causal flirtations like them, and have little understanding if you don't.

Really if you missed out on all those experiences there's no way to be a "normal" human being in a fundamental sense, sure you can act like one and fine-tune your persona, your act, but deep down something will always be missing. And people intuitively pick up on that. Especially women

The only people that I know that have somewhat escaped that fate live like @Oknow , stuck in endless loop of validation-seeking behaviour, trying to compensate for the past. But no matter how much you try to trick your mind, the past, future and present are fractured and can never balance each other out

You can with a lot of practice. It’s a numbers game.

It’s just a skill and can be learned and perfected like any other. Some people learn it from a very young age (popular kids) and become natural at it then there’s weirdos left out to later years. Some of them try to improve and eventually do improve while others just give up and become unintentionally celibate.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

You can with a lot of practice. It’s a numbers game.

It’s just a skill and can be learned and perfected like any other. Some people learn it from a very young age (popular kids) and become natural at it then there’s weirdos left out to later years. Some of them try to improve and eventually do improve while others just give up and become unintentionally celibate.

Sure you can practice and develop that skill ( if you at least look average and can power through the humiliation, since people at a later age are way less forgiving when it comes to social deficits) but that won't ease the anxiety and bitterness that comes with not having experienced what others take for granted.

It's precisely that deep resentment and jealousy that keeps incels in a state of inceldom. I know older people may think that's an immature way of looking at things and that they simply have to let go of their negativity, but I empathize with them.

Because not only have they missed out on those experiences, young people are constantly bombarded with temptations they cannot partake in. Every time they go on social they see others living the life they have always envisioned ( a life that, from a very young age, has been sold to them by society as ideal, as what to aspire to ) and that drills those feelings of inadequacy, jelousy and resentment deep into their core.

That creates a negative feedback loop, and with every passing year the gap widens, untill it can never be crossed

 

[Caillou]

Sure you can practice and develop that skill ( if you at least look average and can power through the humiliation, since people at a later age are way less forgiving when it comes to social deficits) but that won't ease the anxiety and bitterness that comes with not having experienced what others take for granted.

It's precisely that deep resentment and jealousy that keeps incels in a state of inceldom. I know older people may think that's an immature way of looking at things and that they simply have to let go of their negativity, but I empathize with them.

Because not only have they missed out on those experiences, young people are constantly bombarded with temptations they cannot partake in. Every time they go on social they see others living the life they have always envisioned ( a life that, from a very young age, has been sold to them by society as ideal, as what to aspire to ) and that drills those feelings of inadequacy, jelousy and resentment deep into their core.

That creates a negative feedback loop, and with every passing year the gap widens, untill it can never be crossed

Did you grow up as an Incel during your adolescent/early adult years? If so, why exactly and how did you get yourself out of it?

 

[Regan]

I've greatly improved my skills with women over time (from absolute zero), and I think the most important thing that I did was probably to observe successful men and imitate them. Their concrete flirting techniques, but importantly also their mindset / vibe. In addition to doing basic things to improve my appearance.

Thing is, there are men who can't so easily learn to imitate another man's vibe and behavior, due to autism and so forth. So there is no simple solution that works for everyone.

I think inceldom probably involves a bunch of reinforcement loops for most people. Inexperience leads to inaction leads to inexperience. Negativity leads to unattractiveness leads to negativity. And so forth.

 

[300]

Did you grow up as an Incel during your adolescent/early adult years? If so, why exactly and how did you get yourself out of it?

Yeah,but there is no argument,that you are so negative and pessimistic about most things.

 

[Caillou]

Yeah,but there is no argument,that you are so negative and pessimistic about most things.

It's just the default mindset of a young balding male

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

Did you grow up as an Incel during your adolescent/early adult years? If so, why exactly and how did you get yourself out of it?

No, but I'm young and aware enough to understand their issues. I'm lucky that I can partake in social/dating life to distract me from my negativity and ennui, but for many men that is not an option.

Most guys on here are older and don't have the faintest idea how the dating dynamic ( and life itself tbh) has evolved, how rotten things really are underneath the veneer of progress and hedonism. I don't mean that in negative sense. I envy them. Even older millennials ( 30+) were less exposed to the negative effects of the changing zeitgeist

 

[Caillou]

No, but I'm young and aware enough to understand their issues. I'm lucky that I can partake in social/dating life to distract me from my negativity and ennui, but for many men that is not an option.

Most guys on here are older and don't have the faintest idea how the dating dynamic ( and life itself tbh) has evolved, how rotten things really are underneath the veneer of progress and hedonism. I don't mean that in negative sense. I envy them. Even older millennials ( 30+) were less exposed to the negative effects of the changing zeitgeist

I'm so grateful that I have good friends in my life tbh. It makes me much less bothered by the idea of not dating or being in a relationship. I think the problem of most incels is that they have absolutely zero friends and that alienates them and fills them with lots of bitterness

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

so grateful that I have good friends in my life tbh. It makes me much less bothered by the idea of not dating or being in a relationship. I think the problem of most incels is that they have absolutely zero friends and that alienates them and fills them with lots of bitterness

Yes that's a real blessing tbh. It's also cultural. You live in a more open county, in a social sense at least. While society in the West has atomised much more. To illustrate, my only friends are those I've known for the vast majority of my life, I've never made a real connection with someone after high school. Sure I've had fleeting superficial contact with many people. But nothing meaningful

 

[vondoom]

Yes that's a real blessing tbh. It's also cultural. You live in a more open county, in a social sense at least. While society in the West has atomised much more. To illustrate, my only friends are those I've known for the vast majority of my life, I've never made a real connection with someone after high school. Sure I've had fleeting superficial contact with many people. But nothing meaningful

that is like that everywhere and has been for a long time, at least for most people...

 

[Caillou]

Childhood friends are the best kind of friends

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

that is like that everywhere and has been for a long time, at least for most people...

True enough, but things were much more spontaneous back then. People were less estranged from each other. Less hostile towards each other as well. Now everything has become so polarised ( men vs women, normies vs incels, the left vs the right, islam Vs the west, migrants vs ...). Politics have always existed of course, but now it permeates everything

Most young people define themselves by what they oppose

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

Childhood friends are the best kind of friends

It's like with childhood/teen love. Only about you. It's unfiltered and honest. Not trivialised by the superficialities of adulthood

 

[Caillou]

It's like with childhood/teen love. Only about you. It's unfiltered and honest. Not trivialised by the superficialities of adulthood

Yeah and they usually stick with you for life as well, much more loyal than other types of friends. Most of my current friends are friends I've had since elementary school