Dutasteride Is Not That More Effective Than Finasteride

[losingbattle88]

What was the other cause of his hairloss?

He never said. I guess it was inflammation in the body and scalp. He took supplements like parilla leaves to treat inflammation. Alot of stuff can decrease inflammation like ginger and curcumin. But basically he got results from finasteride then later started shedding hair again and thinning. He told his viewers to find the cause of your hairloss if or when finasteride stops working.

 

[jamesbooker1975]

I don't know where the misconception that dutasteride is a miracle drug and prevents hair loss in 99% of cases came from. I know three people from the age of 15-18 In real life that are on it as well as me and it barely has an effect on hair loss. In my honest opinion if u start balding in college or earlier (I started balding at 13-14) then dutasteride or finasteride won't do sh*t. The only stuff that has worked well was oral testosterone blockers. People on this website NEED to understand that testosterone causes hair loss, not DHT. Although Testosterone is 10-20x more abundant than DHT on a ng/dl basis in the male autonomy. DHT is about 3-5x more androgenic so lets just say 1ng of DHT is 4ng of androgens in comparison to testosterone. The normal range for testosterone levels are 300-1000ng/dl and for DHT it is 25-75mg/dl. We know that androgens (testosterone and dht) cause hair loss. so if you take a person 1000ng/dl of testosterone and 75ng/dl of DHT(1000X1=1000 + (75*4)=1300 of androgens. lets just say we give them Dutasteride. WELL, they will have 90% less DHT. so then they have (1000 + 7.5*4)=1030 of androgens. 1030/1300 Is a 20% reduction in androgen levels. so how TF are u gonna tell me that reducing my androgens by 20% is gonna cure my hair loss???? A cure would be a T blocker or an AR blocker. From what I've seen: spironolactone, cyproterone acetate, flutamide, enzalutamide, or bicalutamide will prevent hair loss. These will ACTUALLY change your androgen levels drastically or inhibit activation of the AR.

NOTE: I am not anti-testosterone. If I did not suffer from male pattern baldness I would be probably on roids right now. Testosterone is a great hormone, but if I'm gonna be the only bald 17 year old in my school of 3000 kids and get bullied everyday, then F**K that. @Sonolmn98 @Maave

There is not a misconception . There are studies an even a phase 2 done in USA by GSK with great results ( leaving aside the side effects )

 

[losingbattle88]

Idiot, testosterone is an androgen, how tf would it not cause hair loss. This website has the lowest iq people. Women literally only have 50-70% less DHT then men do, yet when we look at the real world more than 20x-30x more guys go bald for every women that goes bald. Why? Because men have 20-30x more Testosterone. DHT is a useful hormone, I don't even feel my penis anymore now that I use dutasteride. DHT is known to be the hormone for penile sensitivity and brain functioning in men (although I have a high libido because testosterone is the libido hormone). 50mg Spironolactone, a T blocker, gave me 10x more gains by itself then finasteride and dutasteride did at the same time. Go inject 2 grams of Test for an 8 week cycle while using 2.5mg dutasteride (because muh dht is 0) everyday and come back to this website so we can observe your NW5 horseshoe. STOP, testosterone causes hair loss, not DHT.

I actually agree. dutasteride made me bald alot faster. I became superman on dutasteride. My T must have doubled. Took it for 1.5 years. Man I wish I never continued with it for so long. Hair is doing alot better off it.

 

[kaiman]

I actually agree. dutasteride made me bald alot faster. I became superman on dutasteride. My T must have doubled. Took it for 1.5 years. Man I wish I never continued with it for so long. Hair is doing alot better off it.

I had the same experience.

I've trialed dutasteride coming from finasteride twice now, waiting up to a year. I experience frontal thinning and crown loss where Finasteride had previously grown and maintained. Part of me wants to believe dutasteride can't do this. But can dutasteride thinning followed by regrowth really take longer than a year?

When I first started finasteride in 2015, hair thickening and regrowth was very apparent at the year mark. I think there must be a genetic factor that plays a role in which one you will respond better to.

 

[losingbattle88]

I had the same experience.

I've trialed dutasteride coming from finasteride twice now, waiting up to a year. I experience frontal thinning and crown loss where Finasteride had previously grown and maintained. Part of me wants to believe dutasteride can't do this. But can dutasteride thinning followed by regrowth really take longer than a year?

When I first started finasteride in 2015, hair thickening and regrowth was very apparent at the year mark. I think there must be a genetic factor that plays a role in which one you will respond better to.

Ye fuk dutasteride. Im on topical fina liquid 2.5mg with stemox only nowadays.

 

[BaldBob]

I've tried finasteride several times and always get insomnia and early awakening at night, anyone else get this?

 

[losingbattle88]

I've tried finasteride several times and always get insomnia and early awakening at night, anyone else get this?

Both oral min and finasteride causes worse sleep. Your body needs months to adjust to the drug. It took 5 months for the insomnia to go away on oral duta while being on it.

 

[BaldBob]

Both oral min and finasteride causes worse sleep. Your body needs months to adjust to the drug. It took 5 months for the insomnia to go away on oral duta while being on it.

damn that's brutal

 

[Lucus]

I explained my situation in other thread, but I´m new here and it´s not shown yet.

But, in summary, after 2.5 years taking dutas I can assure it does not work for me, using topical minoxidil as well.

99% of hair loss stop is a miracle, a non sense and unreal.

If you tried dutas and it works, better for you, but thinking on taking dutas and the problem will leave you can only be frustrating.

I´m 43yo and Norwood 2.5, but my hair now is worse than ever.

I´ll change to finasteride (to avoid T increase) and trying topical AA like CB0301.

DHT is important, for sure, but T is important as well.

 

[losingbattle88]

I explained my situation in other thread, but I´m new here and it´s not shown yet.

But, in summary, after 2.5 years taking dutas I can assure it does not work for me, using topical minoxidil as well.

99% of hair loss stop is a miracle, a non sense and unreal.

If you tried dutas and it works, better for you, but thinking on taking dutas and the problem will leave you can only be frustrating.

I´m 43yo and Norwood 2.5, but my hair now is worse than ever.

I´ll change to finasteride (to avoid T increase) and trying topical AA like CB0301.

DHT is important, for sure, but T is important as well.

Yep same here. I believe its the T increase or hormonal. Im using finasteride and min instead. Topical and low dose oral.

 

[Lucus]

Yep same here. I believe its the T increase or hormonal. Im using finasteride and min instead. Topical and low dose oral.

Hi, just a couple of questions:

Do you feel your scalp oily?
Have you tried any topical T blocker like RU, CB or Pyru?

 

[losingbattle88]

Hi, just a couple of questions:

Do you feel your scalp oily?
Have you tried any topical T blocker like RU, CB or Pyru?

No increase in oiliness when I was on dutas or on finasteride. Yes I tried RU several times for a short period of 2 months but I never liked it and it was expensive so I dropped it.

 

[Lucus]

Thanks!

This week I stopped dutas, sigh, and now I don´t know if I should take finas or just be focused on T.

Alfatradiol is reducing my oily scalp, and it seems promising in my case.

I want to do a hair transplant in 1 year - 1.5 years, I have the doctor booked, very good in Spain ... but I feel so frustrated at this point.

 

[BaldBob]

Thanks!

This week I stopped dutas, sigh, and now I don´t know if I should take finas or just be focused on T.

Alfatradiol is reducing my oily scalp, and it seems promising in my case.

I want to do a hair transplant in 1 year - 1.5 years, I have the doctor booked, very good in Spain ... but I feel so frustrated at this point.

did you get sides from dutasteride? finasteride gives me insomnia, dead libido even at a low dose

 

[losingbattle88]

did you get sides from dutasteride? finasteride gives me insomnia, dead libido even at a low dose

finasteride gives me sides too but just gotta accept them and keep taking the drug.

 

[Lucus]

Mmmmm some brain fog and some sexual sides, but not really important.

If I left dutas was because, after 2.5 years it was destroying my hair.

I´ll keep you posted about if I take oral finas and also my T battle with estradiol (so cheap) and CB0301 (so expensive).

 

[abovedagame]

Thanks!

This week I stopped dutas, sigh, and now I don´t know if I should take finas or just be focused on T.

Alfatradiol is reducing my oily scalp, and it seems promising in my case.

I want to do a hair transplant in 1 year - 1.5 years, I have the doctor booked, very good in Spain ... but I feel so frustrated at this point.

Which doctor?

 

[Lucus]

Dr. Antonio Burgos

Here his Youtube with their cases: https://www.youtube.com/@doctorantonioburgos